The Return of Gore-Bot!!!

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
He's baaaccck.........He is the Goreinator.....he never ceases.



<a href="http://www.msnbc.com/news/738277.asp"; target="_blank">Gore-bot</a>



I don't think he will even get the nomination. One of the reasons he lost is he failed to solidify the Democratic base. According to a recent Gallup poll, Democrats oppose his running 48 to 43%. Even though that may be insigficant from a percentage standpoint, the fact that this many Demos don't want him to run can't bode well.



Good luck, Gore-bot.



[ 04-15-2002: Message edited by: SDW2001 ]</p>
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  • Reply 1 of 45
    tigerwoods99tigerwoods99 Posts: 2,633member
    Sore Looserman 2000!
  • Reply 2 of 45
    but... but...!!



    He invented the Internet!!
  • Reply 3 of 45
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    [cheap shot]







    Hungry meals for a Hungry Man!



    [/cheap shot]



    Bachman-Turner Overdrive!? Hell yeah, run Republicans run!
  • Reply 4 of 45
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    He really does look like John Goodman in that picture. At least he shaved.



    I'm just so looking forward to voting against Bush. I'll be happy for a week.
  • Reply 5 of 45
    [quote]Originally posted by BRussell:

    I'm just so looking forward to voting against Bush. I'll be happy for a week.<hr></blockquote>



    Well put.
  • Reply 6 of 45
    fran441fran441 Posts: 3,715member
    [quote]I'm just so looking forward to voting against Bush. I'll be happy for a week. <hr></blockquote>



    Add me to that list.
  • Reply 7 of 45
    Saw some of the speech he made on the Jon Stewart show. Jeeeeeez, was he sweating like a hog...he and Steve Ballmer should hang out together... <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
  • Reply 8 of 45
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    So you guys don't vote for your guy, you vote against someone else?
  • Reply 9 of 45
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    Ah, the partisan guys and their distortyed views of why people should vote. That's why we have a WWF wrestler as a governor.
  • Reply 10 of 45
    sdw2001sdw2001 Posts: 16,937member
    [quote]Originally posted by BRussell:

    <strong>He really does look like John Goodman in that picture. At least he shaved.



    I'm just so looking forward to voting against Bush. I'll be happy for a week.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I wish you would run so I could vote against you.
  • Reply 11 of 45
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    [quote]Originally posted by Outsider:

    <strong>Ah, the partisan guys and their distortyed views of why people should vote. That's why we have a WWF wrestler as a governor.</strong><hr></blockquote>How do you figure? It's people who hate the two-party system, who consider themselves "independent" (I say wishy-washy), and voted on personality rather than platform that got Jesse into office.



    I know some of you guys (like Outsider) don't get this because it's supposedly better to be non-partisan, but I vote on the values represented by the parties, rather than on personalities.



    I used to vote on an individual basis; in my first national election in 1988 and again in 1992, I split my vote between Repubs and Dems. Then I came to the conclusion that the party affiliation of the politician was a better predictor of their positions than their personality. And also, each individual rep and senator helps to determine who has the majority party in the Congress, which plays a big role.



    And I've never seen a third-party that I both 1) knew what they stood for and 2) agreed with.



    How do you vote, Outsider? Third parties? Split your ticket?
  • Reply 12 of 45
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    The truth? I don't vote for someone I cannot trust. I have never known a politician I can trust. I'm not saying I voted for Perot (I didn't) but I have no solidarity with any of the 2 major parties. I like the Greens on much of their stance on the environmental issues. But 2 parties is not enough. The other parties don't even factor in in a presidential race.
  • Reply 13 of 45
    [quote]Originally posted by groverat:

    <strong>So you guys don't vote for your guy, you vote against someone else?</strong><hr></blockquote>Ya' damn skippy!



    I mean... errm... yes, that is correct.
  • Reply 14 of 45
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    [quote]but I vote on the values represented by the parties, rather than on personalities.<hr></blockquote>



    The two major parties represent values?



    <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />



    What values are those?

    "No, I'M a bigger corporate shill!" "Nuh uh, me!"



    And how the hell is someone who votes for other parties or is independent wishy-washy? Ever consider that they might actually have a spine?
  • Reply 15 of 45
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    [quote]Originally posted by Outsider:

    <strong>The truth? I don't vote for someone I cannot trust. I have never known a politician I can trust.</strong><hr></blockquote>It's the dilemma of democracy. If you are being logical about it, the only rational choice is to not vote at all: ? You as an individual won't effect the outcome of the election,

    ? you can't really predict what the politicians will do, and

    ? you lose a lot of influence once they get into office anyway.



    However, I prefer to take part in the system, no matter how irrational it is. I just think it's too important. Intelligent people like yourself shouldn't opt out - THAT'S what causes wrestlers to get elected. [quote]Originally posted by groverat:

    <strong>The two major parties represent values?</strong><hr></blockquote>Yes. The two parties roughly represent conservative and liberal. They're not as different as fascists and communists or something, but they ARE different. Republicans represent traditionalist values and the economically advantaged, and Democrats represent progressive values and the economic lower classes.



    This stuff about how "both parties suck" and "I hate all politicians" is just a way of avoiding taking a position.

    [quote]And how the hell is someone who votes for other parties or is independent wishy-washy? Ever consider that they might actually have a spine?<hr></blockquote>I've considered it and rejected it.





    I think they're just trying to be different, or trying to avoid sticking their neck out. I've read enough of your posts, groverat, to know you're about as conservative as they come. And yet you said you voted for Nader. Now tell me how THAT makes sense?
  • Reply 16 of 45
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    [quote]This stuff about how "both parties suck" and "I hate all politicians" is just a way of avoiding taking a position.<hr></blockquote>



    That's bullshit. I'll take a position on any issue you throw at me and I'll stick to it with a lot more force than any goddam 2-party politico ever would.



    [quote]I've read enough of your posts, groverat, to know you're about as conservative as they come.<hr></blockquote>



    "Conservatives" think I'm a liberal. And "liberals" think I'm a conservative.



    Check out my posts in Israel/Palestine threads and ask yourself how conservative they come across.



    And don't get my hatred of Democrats color your vision as to my political leanings.
  • Reply 17 of 45
    So you guys don't vote for your guy, you vote against someone else?



    When the options are a puppet and a robot, ya, you dont vote for a person. As for a party... well... I dont even think that the leftists like the democrats much, but they HATE the republicans with a passion.
  • Reply 18 of 45
    sdw2001sdw2001 Posts: 16,937member
    [quote]Republicans represent traditionalist values and the economically advantaged, and Democrats represent progressive values and the economic lower classes. <hr></blockquote>\\



    See now, I just disagree with you there. That is what the liberal media would love you to believe. I'll agree with "traditionalist values", but the term "progressive" is misleading. I would insert "liberal" there instead.



    In addition, Democrats tend to favor either larger or more involved government, or both. Republicans want limited government.



    [ 04-16-2002: Message edited by: SDW2001 ]</p>
  • Reply 19 of 45
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    [quote]Republicans want limited government.<hr></blockquote>



    <a href="http://www.msnbc.com/news/738704.asp"; target="_blank">Untrue.</a>



    Republicans *and* Democrats expand the government. Republicans just infringe on personal liberties just a little less and the Democrats are kinda pro-choice. Those are the differences.
  • Reply 20 of 45
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    The options are bleak either way. Dems want the government to control your life, while the Reps want big corporations to do it. Either way it sucks.
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