If there is an extreme shortage of white iPhones once released, you bet I'm going to mad. I won't be mad and expect anything in return. I'll be mad for the simple fact that I've had to wait for a month and then still not be able to get one. It's not small-minded to express my anger.
It's simply frustrating to have had my mind made up since the announcement of this phone only to be let down severely on pre-order launch day with the announcement of the white iPhone status. 3 million people are already enjoying their black iPhone 4 while a lot of people have been patiently waiting for the white one. It just kind of sucks when you get down to it.
The alleged problems were revealed this week ..... said that the manufacturing issues come from a factory in China ....... A worker with the company's quality control department said thatthe company is still trying to work out the right balance of paint thickness and opacity, in order to ensure the panel allows enough space for the digitizer overlay, but also gives the level of white that Apple expects the product to have.
Originally Posted by FineTunes
I can't believe that they did not work this out before things went into production. Hope that there will be no QC problems with the paint job.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
It's not a paint job.
Originally Posted by FineTunes
From reading the report--sounded like the panel was painted--but then again I could be wrong--no matter hope that they can meet production quotas otherwise there are going to be some angry people.
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Originally Posted by jz1492
Looks like the problem lies with the opacity of the paint. White paint may be more translucent than black, hence requiring a heavier coating just so the components inside don't show up as discoloring from the outside. Yet, if the paint is too thick they say it interferes with the digitizer overlay. \
I'm all for an unpainted, crystal clear iPhone 4.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
It's pigmented aluminosilicate glass. The pigment is part of the glass, not painted on the surface.
Then the surface is coated with a clear oleophobic coating.
AI report called it a paint job ø (?). The pigment is applied to the surface of the glass not mixed with the glass when it is formed--otherwise the glass would be totally opaque.
"The process is fairly simple where by the dry powders are arranged on sheet glass in any desired pattern or design. The glass is then fired in a kiln only to the point of making the powder stick to the glass, leaving the powder in what appears to be a soft powdery form as opposed fully fusing the powders into the glass."
What the US needs right now are some more manufacturing jobs for the many people here, in the US, that currently do not have jobs.
If you're having issues getting enough production out of your factories in lands far away, perhaps consider building a few of them here so you could be one of the few electronics manufacturers that can say Made in the USA.
There are many people looking for a job in the US so you should have no problems finding people willing to work for you at a minimal wage. It may not be quite as cheap as those foreign countries we are all becoming way to dependent on for EVERYTHING (which can be a problem), but your margins are so high I think you may be able to afford it.
After all, when I'm ready to buy my two iPhone 4's later this year...I actually want some to be available.
I sure hope they give USA customers first dibbs on White orders. If the supply is so small, we deserve to get them first here in Apple's home country. I'm checking the Apple Store app every hour to be among the first to order mine when they finally start letting us place one. Wish Apple would pre-announce the day they will let us order.
I sure hope they give USA customers first dibbs on White orders. If the supply is so small, we deserve to get them first here in Apple's home country. I'm checking the Apple Store app every hour to be among the first to order mine when they finally start letting us place one. Wish Apple would pre-announce the day they will let us order.
Well I don't.
And you deserve it?? Why? It's because of almost USA-exclusive connection problems that the iPhone4 got such a bad mouthing. I think countries with better carriers (and consequently happier customers) deserve it more
My first though is that the industry has been using laser based devices to cut glass panels for laptops and such for years. It is possible though that Gorrilla glass doesn't respond we'll to lasers.
So they might gave to use abrasive cutting methods. Even so four an hour sounds awfully slow. This makes me wonder if they are talking about the whole fabrication process.
In any event I wouldn't be surprised to find that the hold up is the white paint they want to apply to the external antenna. In other words Apple wants to ship the White iPhone with an insulated antenna. I know that is what I would do to placate the people that can't grab the iPhone properly. If they can make it pretty and more reliable at the same time they will.
The interesting thing here is that I went with the white 3G. If I do upgrade this would be the color I'd go for. Right now the issue is budgeting for either an iPad or an iPhone. Tough.
IPhone 4.0 has a lot of bugs and some nasty performance issues on the 3G. I'm actually hoping for a rev that addresses these issues. I hate to go back to 3.x as 4.0 fixed a lot of bugs in that rev. Now it has it's own bugs and nasty performance issues. Some of those issues appear to be bugs that are unrelated to hardware.
This has me wondering how many 4.0 complaints are actually software issues that are not hardware specific. For example 3G appears to be especially pathetic on the 3G, yet we here blame being put on the iPhone 4s hardware.
I got side tracked there a bit. It will be interesting to see demand for the white when it arrives.
I think the article is a little vague, it says that they can only make 3 or 4 an hour, but how many are they normally able to produce if there are no problems?
Also this is per machine, how many machines do they have doing this?
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If there is an extreme shortage of white iPhones once released, you bet I'm going to mad. I won't be mad and expect anything in return. I'll be mad for the simple fact that I've had to wait for a month and then still not be able to get one.
It's simply frustrating to have had my mind made up since the announcement of this phone only to be let down severely on pre-order launch day with the announcement of the white iPhone status. 3 million people are already enjoying their black iPhone 4 while a lot of people have been patiently waiting for the white one. It just kind of sucks when you get down to it.
I can hold out though...
I know what you mean
The alleged problems were revealed this week ..... said that the manufacturing issues come from a factory in China ....... A worker with the company's quality control department said that
Originally Posted by FineTunes
I can't believe that they did not work this out before things went into production. Hope that there will be no QC problems with the paint job.
It's not a paint job.
Originally Posted by FineTunes
From reading the report--sounded like the panel was painted--but then again I could be wrong--no matter hope that they can meet production quotas otherwise there are going to be some angry people.
Looks like the problem lies with the opacity of the paint. White paint may be more translucent than black, hence requiring a heavier coating just so the components inside don't show up as discoloring from the outside. Yet, if the paint is too thick they say it interferes with the digitizer overlay.
I'm all for an unpainted, crystal clear iPhone 4.
It's pigmented aluminosilicate glass. The pigment is part of the glass, not painted on the surface.
Then the surface is coated with a clear oleophobic coating.
AI report called it a paint job ø (?).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powder_painting
Dear Apple,
What the US needs right now are some more manufacturing jobs for the many people here, in the US, that currently do not have jobs.
If you're having issues getting enough production out of your factories in lands far away, perhaps consider building a few of them here so you could be one of the few electronics manufacturers that can say Made in the USA.
There are many people looking for a job in the US so you should have no problems finding people willing to work for you at a minimal wage. It may not be quite as cheap as those foreign countries we are all becoming way to dependent on for EVERYTHING (which can be a problem), but your margins are so high I think you may be able to afford it.
After all, when I'm ready to buy my two iPhone 4's later this year...I actually want some to be available.
Think Different...make different.
I agree
I can't believe that they did not work this out before things went into production. Hope that there will be no QC problems with the paint job.
They are working it out before the white iPhones go into production. Unless you wanted them to hold up the black iPhone as well
That white is ugly. Who wants that? I like my phone the way I like my women, black.
Practicing polygamy 'ey? So you choose women based on the colour of their skin? Good luck with that mate. I hope you become very happy in life.
BTW: Against to what media teaches you women are not objects. But I think you talk about them as such. Oh, and I'm not a woman.
I'm all for an unpainted, crystal clear iPhone 4.
Great idea!! That would be such a unique product. I would get that over the white or black.
They are working it out before the white iPhones go into production.
Unless you wanted them to hold up the black iPhone as well
Never said or implied, nor is there any reason why this would be necessary.
If I was to get an iPhone 4, would get in black. Planning to get iPod Touch around first of next year--in black
oh hell no i just bought/ordered an iphone 4 at at&t on saturday i better get it by friday because i need it for school next monday
So presently you don't have any phone at all? Should have ordered earlier.
That white is ugly. Who wants that? I like my phone the way I like my women, black.
Then Apple should produce yellow Iphones also...
I sure hope they give USA customers first dibbs on White orders. If the supply is so small, we deserve to get them first here in Apple's home country. I'm checking the Apple Store app every hour to be among the first to order mine when they finally start letting us place one.
Well I don't.
And you deserve it??
So they might gave to use abrasive cutting methods. Even so four an hour sounds awfully slow. This makes me wonder if they are talking about the whole fabrication process.
In any event I wouldn't be surprised to find that the hold up is the white paint they want to apply to the external antenna. In other words Apple wants to ship the White iPhone with an insulated antenna. I know that is what I would do to placate the people that can't grab the iPhone properly. If they can make it pretty and more reliable at the same time they will.
The interesting thing here is that I went with the white 3G. If I do upgrade this would be the color I'd go for. Right now the issue is budgeting for either an iPad or an iPhone. Tough.
IPhone 4.0 has a lot of bugs and some nasty performance issues on the 3G. I'm actually hoping for a rev that addresses these issues. I hate to go back to 3.x as 4.0 fixed a lot of bugs in that rev. Now it has it's own bugs and nasty performance issues. Some of those issues appear to be bugs that are unrelated to hardware.
This has me wondering how many 4.0 complaints are actually software issues that are not hardware specific. For example 3G appears to be especially pathetic on the 3G, yet we here blame being put on the iPhone 4s hardware.
I got side tracked there a bit. It will be interesting to see demand for the white when it arrives.
Dave
Then Apple should produce yellow Iphones also...
You forgot green. If you think we're alone you're wrong!
Also this is per machine, how many machines do they have doing this?