Iran on the Brink
April 29, 2002 8:45 a.m.
<a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/ledeen/ledeen042902.asp"; target="_blank">Iran on the Brink</a>
And the U.S. does nothing.
[quote]Last Wednesday, April 24, an obscure deputy in the Iranian parliament went to the podium at 10:45 in the morning to read a prepared statement.
Few in that hall could have known what was coming: a fatwa issued by one of the country's most prestigious and revered religious leaders, the Grand Ayatollah Montazeri. His message was directed far beyond the boundaries of Iran, to all members of the Shia faith. It was a powerful and politically important message: Suicide terrorism is antithetical to the teachings of Islam, and those who practice it, and kill women, children, and babies, are doomed to eternity in hell. The struggle between the Palestinian people and Israel must be resolved by other means, above all by negotiations. A tumult broke out when the import of the statement became clear, but the parliamentary president permitted the deputy to read the fatwa in its entirety.
The proceedings were broadcast live throughout Iran. Therefore, although no Iranian publication and, to my knowledge, no foreign-news service reported the event, the Iranian people were able to hear it in real time.
This is an event of enormous importance, for it is the first time that a leading Iranian cleric has condemned suicide terrorism, and it is an explicit attack on the Iranian regime, which has praised the terrorists and called upon Iranians to volunteer for suicide missions...<hr></blockquote>
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<a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/ledeen/ledeen042902.asp"; target="_blank">Iran on the Brink</a>
And the U.S. does nothing.
[quote]Last Wednesday, April 24, an obscure deputy in the Iranian parliament went to the podium at 10:45 in the morning to read a prepared statement.
Few in that hall could have known what was coming: a fatwa issued by one of the country's most prestigious and revered religious leaders, the Grand Ayatollah Montazeri. His message was directed far beyond the boundaries of Iran, to all members of the Shia faith. It was a powerful and politically important message: Suicide terrorism is antithetical to the teachings of Islam, and those who practice it, and kill women, children, and babies, are doomed to eternity in hell. The struggle between the Palestinian people and Israel must be resolved by other means, above all by negotiations. A tumult broke out when the import of the statement became clear, but the parliamentary president permitted the deputy to read the fatwa in its entirety.
The proceedings were broadcast live throughout Iran. Therefore, although no Iranian publication and, to my knowledge, no foreign-news service reported the event, the Iranian people were able to hear it in real time.
This is an event of enormous importance, for it is the first time that a leading Iranian cleric has condemned suicide terrorism, and it is an explicit attack on the Iranian regime, which has praised the terrorists and called upon Iranians to volunteer for suicide missions...<hr></blockquote>
[ 04-29-2002: Message edited by: roger_ramjet ]</p>
Comments
And I think it's probably good that it was couched with other anti-American, anti-Jew rhetoric. That makes it more credible to the crowds that need to here* it.
I don't quite get the spin that this editorial is putting on this, though. What is he saying the US should do? I think we just need to sit back and let it happen. If we start doing too much, we'll be "meddling" and it will probably backfire.
[edit: I was going to change 'here' to the appropriate 'hear,' but I figure the shame is good for me.]
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Good precedent, I hope the Arab world makes this a common ocurrance.
what would you do if all you had was rocks to fight a war?
walk in their shoes first,
cuss
p.s. it is a good thing, it's not new, some muslim clerics have been decrying terrorism fer a long time now... and as ol' boy said above, it's up to us to do the listening part.
I personally believe Iran can be a great moderating power in central Asia and the Mid East its an amazingly rich country with a highly educated population and a reasonable social order ... it has a semi democratic system and a great potential .... if only it sheds its conservative military and judicial establishments it might become a real moderate democracy... its President Hatami definitely seems like a reasonable man.
One thing to remember though is that these are Shia Muslims ... most suicide bombers ( both in the OT and Al Queda) are Sunni Muslims.... there is little respect for Shia Fatwas with Sunnis .... its not like they have the same standards and leaders its two very different sects.....
<strong>well chump,
what would you do if all you had was rocks to fight a war?
walk in their shoes first,
cuss
p.s. it is a good thing, it's not new, some muslim clerics have been decrying terrorism fer a long time now... and as ol' boy said above, it's up to us to do the listening part.</strong><hr></blockquote>
ho ho little cussie.....
Iran has much more then rocs to hurl at the world.... some analysts recon they will soon have nukes ... LOL
they certainly have some very big bombs and missiles full of chemical & Bio weapons and a very large well funded Army...
Stop eating the shit you seem to chew on....its not good for ya
<strong>hey roger, you change to spaceman spiff?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah, for a while anyway. It was either that or Stupendous Man...
but I was afraid some people might have a hard time keeping up.
<strong>Interesting. It's about time someone from that part of the world condemned these suicide bombings. From my understanding, it is clearly against the Koran to commit suicide. I wonder if this will take at all. It would be good to hear the Saudis et al. make unequivocal statements condemning them too...</strong><hr></blockquote>
When hell freezes over.
it all makes sense to me now...
thanks
<strong>brilliant... so iran's behind the suicide bombings? okay... yer right, it's not yer average dirtpoor palestinian hopeless strapping crude bombs to their backs... it's the relatively well educated, semi-democratic iranian school student... sick to death of hamburgers and fries and summers spent on the beaches of greece...
it all makes sense to me now...
</strong><hr></blockquote>
You don´t make sence to me. Please explain yourself <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
<strong>brilliant... so iran's behind the suicide bombings? okay... yer right, it's not yer average dirtpoor palestinian hopeless strapping crude bombs to their backs... it's the relatively well educated, semi-democratic iranian school student... sick to death of hamburgers and fries and summers spent on the beaches of greece...
it all makes sense to me now...
thanks</strong><hr></blockquote>
Iran backs Hezbollah - one of the factions involved in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Is this news to you?
<strong>iran backs hezbollah with words... not bodies.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Iran backs hizbollah with lots of money and weapons without iran it wouldn't have beed able to function. Most hizbollah fighters spend time in Iran in military training camps....Hizbollah BTW is heavily involved with suicide bombings against Israeli, American Sunni and Christian Lebanese targets ! check what the US defense depertment has to say about it.
In addition Iran was the source of the recently intercepetd huge arms shipment cought by Israeli comandos in the red sea that was destined for the PA... had these weapons reached the PA their use would have provoked an Israeli response that could have sparked the whole region.......
Iran is still not your regular pleasent nighbours ATM...
hezbollah backs what again? that's proganda... anyone with 50 american dollars and a trip to walmart can outfit 10 suicide bombers. my point is hezbollah ain't backin' no one very well... let's us differentiate between 'condoning' and 'backing'...
if anyone has backed anything? it's the US, backing Israel in a fight they can't lose.
so why are you so worried?
me
<strong>whatever... yer info has you in the UK... is that the poofter part where no one gets sarcasm?
hezbollah backs what again? that's proganda... anyone with 50 american dollars and a trip to walmart can outfit 10 suicide bombers. my point is hezbollah ain't backin' no one very well... let's us differentiate between 'condoning' and 'backing'...
if anyone has backed anything? it's the US, backing Israel in a fight they can't lose.
so why are you so worried?
me</strong><hr></blockquote>
I'm afraid I'm loosing you in your own labyrinth of half truths ..........
could you explain what you're trying to say ... you see I must be a tad thick.....
I didn't know they sell Katyusha rockets and anti tank heat seeking missiles in wall mart....
good that .. neh ?!
Would you know if they're planing on launching (opps sorry) a megastore in London ?
I'm not worried, I'm offended by what you choose to believe, instead of investing the minimum
effort and getting the facts right.
i was answering dood's query about a fair fight till you jumped in. he was alluding to suicide bombers and thusly, all my points were directed at that. if you wanna talk troop movements along the syrian border, then yes, rockets from iran are being used... but uh, that's closer to a 'fair fight' now isn't it?
as fair as they get anyways,
cuss
p.s. fair until you realize hezzbollah isn't firing them from tanks and apaches.
That's blasphemy!
<strong>Why can't they fight honest wars? Why do they have to kill the innocent?</strong><hr></blockquote>
What do you consider to be a honest war?