Hackers release browser-based 'jailbreak' for iPhone 4

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  • Reply 81 of 178
    bulk001bulk001 Posts: 695member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sandau View Post


    Personally, I'd wait a week to run this. comex et al are a good group, but it's always good to let a few days to a week pass before you brick your phone.



    if you jailbreak I would not wait as you need to get your shsh on file before 4.1. My guess is that apple has plugged the hole in 4.1 beta so they released it now. Also the FaceTime and mms bugs are fixed. If ft is not working, just go to settings / phone and turn it on. Mobile Substrat is causing problems with Skype multitasking so avoid apps that install it if you need Skype.
  • Reply 82 of 178
    ghostface147ghostface147 Posts: 1,629member
    While I don't JB, I'd still prefer to use a local process instead of a web-based one.
  • Reply 83 of 178
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    Originally Posted by lkrupp View Post


    Wait until a real bad bug gets loose and pwns jailbroken iPhones along with user data, password, and account numbers.



    I wonder who will get the blame? Is there any question who it will be? What will the trolls attack as an insecure, useless device? Who will the tech blogs go after? The iPhone Dev-Team? The ass hat users who compromised their phones? The malware author? Nope. We all know who they will go after don't we.





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    summery - just plain LAME
  • Reply 84 of 178
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    Originally Posted by BUSHMAN4 View Post


    For me to jailbreak I would have to see something I MUST HAVE, which APPLE doesn't offer.

    By the way being that APPLE licenses the software by jailbreaking the Iphone you void the warranty.



    Doesn't anyone understand that the jailbreaks are 100% reversible leaving no trace they were ever jailbroken? A simple restore and guess what-not a trace. Warranty now valid.

    If people took the time to investigate a little before they report or post they might learn something. Though a few would be so bent on their personal hatred most would probably be enlightened and smarter for it. There will always be the followers of lies, deceit, propaganda, hatred, etc... Those people-well they are just plain idiots.
  • Reply 85 of 178
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by davidcarswell View Post


    Doesn't anyone understand that the jailbreaks are 100% reversible leaving no trace they were ever jailbroken? A simple restore and guess what-not a trace. Warranty now valid.



    In theory. In the REAL world, some jailbreaks have bricked phones.



    Not to mention that your 'warranty is still valid' argument fails. My car warranty is in effect only as long as I keep oil in the crankcase. If I drain the crankcase, drive around for an hour, then refill the crankcase, that doesn't make my warranty valid.
  • Reply 86 of 178
    geekdadgeekdad Posts: 1,131member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jragosta View Post


    In theory. In the REAL world, some jailbreaks have bricked phones.



    Not to mention that your 'warranty is still valid' argument fails. My car warranty is in effect only as long as I keep oil in the crankcase. If I drain the crankcase, drive around for an hour, then refill the crankcase, that doesn't make my warranty valid.



    Thats where you are wrong.......They could tell based on the damage done to the vehicle that there was no oil in the car and that resulted in the engine seizing up.

    If you jailbroke you IP...then for whatever reason restored it Apple would not be able to tell one way or another.
  • Reply 87 of 178
    sendmesendme Posts: 567member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lkrupp View Post


    Wait until a real bad bug gets loose and pwns jailbroken iPhones along with user data, password, and account numbers.



    I wonder who will get the blame? Is there any question who it will be? What will the trolls attack as an insecure, useless device? Who will the tech blogs go after? The iPhone Dev-Team? The ass hat users who compromised their phones? The malware author? Nope. We all know who they will go after don't we.





    Those Ass Hats are just like people who install third party software on their Macs! The best policy is to install only boxed software purchased from Apple.
  • Reply 88 of 178
    sendmesendme Posts: 567member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by zorinlynx View Post


    Umm, doesn't this mean that a malicious website could also "jailbreak" the iPhone and install a rootkit, then do really bad things with your phone, steal your information, call 976 numbers, and so on?



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    Safari is much too safe for anything like that. It has excellent security.
  • Reply 89 of 178
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jragosta View Post


    In theory. In the REAL world, some jailbreaks have bricked phones.



    Not to mention that your 'warranty is still valid' argument fails. My car warranty is in effect only as long as I keep oil in the crankcase. If I drain the crankcase, drive around for an hour, then refill the crankcase, that doesn't make my warranty valid.



    Jailbreaks ARE safe-it's what they do AFTER the jailbreak that can cause problems-though true bricking from jailbreaking as far as I can tell are just reports and scare tactics-as they are 100% reversible. If they have a hardware failure - its just that - nothing was caused by the jailbreak. The device would have failed regardless.



    I've fixed and troubleshot many an iphone (both jb and not jb) and not a one was not fixable -and some were like FUBAR-but a little skill, research and patience...FIXED.



    -One should NEVER jailbreak if they can barely pass a beginner's test of computer skills. You would be surprised how many people don't know what the eff a desktop is!



    -A tech friend of mine at the apple store told me - they have never had a truly bricked iphone come in that was caused by a jailbreak-though apple says it does void your warranty they have fixed every single problematic iphone that has arrived - noting that jailbreaks at worse only would make you lose personal data-the void warranty is apples way out should someday a TRUE problem caused by a jailbreak were to actually service.



    -These stories of nightmares from jailbreaking are end-user errors, caused by people who aren't paying attention and not reading disclaimers before they install. The initial jailbreak tells you just to cover them from liability that YOU CAN eff your iPhone up-WARNING-the jailbreak says it just to cover their asses-they know they cant brick your iphone-but people will always claim it cause SOMEONE must pay for their own mistakes, accidents NEVER happen-and they are actually Android users not even owning an iPhone-



    SEEMS these days that blogs are worthless - hell with antennagate and whatnot-perhaps this is just evidence of our de-evolution, the virtual lobotomy that technology seems to cause and the shameful un-education in from no-funded public schools. Lucky for us if these are the causes, they are fixable. If not, we are doomed.
  • Reply 90 of 178
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by geekdad View Post


    Thats where you are wrong.......They could tell based on the damage done to the vehicle that there was no oil in the car and that resulted in the engine seizing up.

    If you jailbroke you IP...then for whatever reason restored it Apple would not be able to tell one way or another.



    Geekdad=someone who is educated and knows what they are taking about



    thank you-
  • Reply 91 of 178
    sendmesendme Posts: 567member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by akhomerun View Post


    why are mobile phones different than the free and open environment of the desktop pc?






    PCs are full of viruses and worms that ruin the user experience. Apple likes us to have a good time using their products.
  • Reply 92 of 178
    sendmesendme Posts: 567member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleADayKeepsDrAway View Post


    what reason is there to buy any Android phone and suffer the lack of software,



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    All the haters have been asking Mac users the same question for years! Hows it feel now, haters?
  • Reply 93 of 178
    irnchrizirnchriz Posts: 1,606member
    I agree with previous posters here. You cannot brick your iPhone by jailbreaking as you can always restore it in DFU mode.



    If Apple were really all that bothered by jailbreaking they would build in a way to record the UUID of all jailbroken devices and put them on an App store ban list or at the very least a warranty blacklist.



    In reality, it doesn't really affect them all that much as they still ship hardware and any work done to prevent/delay/inconvenience jailbreakers is there for the benefit of the app developers. The last thing that Apple want to do is show developers that they don't give a stuff about piracy. Microsoft and Sony do the same with their own ecosystems.
  • Reply 94 of 178
    geekdadgeekdad Posts: 1,131member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SendMe View Post


    PCs are full of viruses and worms that ruin the user experience. Apple likes us to have a good time using their products.



    That is a pretty generic all encompassing statement. I have been running a PC since 94 and have never had a virus. Apple is just like any other big corporation...they rule by the bottom line...they have great products and I buy them as needed.....

    I have 2 iMacs and iPad, macbook and a Macbook Pro oh...and a Time Capsule in my house. So I am a Apple fan but...they are not perfect.....
  • Reply 95 of 178
    sendmesendme Posts: 567member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ThinkKnot View Post




    All we need is some glorified idiot to get some airtime on TV saying that with their hacked iPhone they can now steer a satellite to drop out of the sky with pinpoint accuracy onto a nuke plant or something.



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    Jailbreakers crash whole cell towers. Here's what Apple told the Copyright Office:



    "For example, a local or international hacker could potentially initiate commands (such

    as a denial of service attack) that could crash the tower software, rendering the tower entirely

    inoperable to process calls or transmit data. In short, taking control of the BBP software would

    be much the equivalent of getting inside the firewall of a corporate computer ? to potentially

    catastrophic result. The technological protection measures were designed into the iPhone

    precisely to prevent these kinds of pernicious activities,"











    It sounds to me like people who jailbreak are setting up some kind of terrorist activity.
  • Reply 96 of 178
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by irnchriz View Post


    If Apple were really all that bothered by jailbreaking they would build in a way to record the UUID of all jailbroken devices and put them on an App store ban list or at the very least a warranty blacklist.



    I don?t see that ever flying. If that happened you could restore the phone, then sell it as a perfectly working phone which an unsuspecting buyer would find couldn?t use the App Store while a jailbroken phone could change the UUID or even trick Apple?s servers into thinking all is well with the phone. After all, it?s all SW. The only people hurt by this would be those who don?t jailbreak.



    This is a situation where Apple has to just keep playing a cat and mouse game. There best move is to make it too complex for people to want to jailbreak, which his browser-based jailbreak does not do.
  • Reply 97 of 178
    geekdadgeekdad Posts: 1,131member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleADayKeepsDrAway View Post


    Could the android users please remind me what's the advantage of Android again? Other than being a Verizon user and there is no choice, what reason is there to buy any Android phone and suffer the lack of software, now that iPhones just gained a huge increase in all the Apps that Apple rejected for either moral or competitive reasons?



    It would seem the Library of Congress just destroyed the reason for Android to exist......



    Really? I returned my IP4 for signal issues and proximity issues and dropped calls. I was told to use a bumper to get a fully functional phone.

    I switched to the HTC EVO and I have not found one app I used on my IP that was not in the Android Market Place. NOT ONE.........Thye might be called something different but they still do the same functions with the same ammount of ease.

    Facetime? Got it on the Android market place called Fring and it free......and it is awesome.......
  • Reply 98 of 178
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SendMe View Post


    Jailbreakers crash whole cell towers. Here's what Apple told the Copyright Office:



    "For example, a local or international hacker could potentially initiate commands (such

    as a denial of service attack) that could crash the tower software, rendering the tower entirely

    inoperable to process calls or transmit data. In short, taking control of the BBP software would

    be much the equivalent of getting inside the firewall of a corporate computer ? to potentially

    catastrophic result. The technological protection measures were designed into the iPhone

    precisely to prevent these kinds of pernicious activities,"











    It sounds to me like people who jailbreak are setting up some kind of terrorist activity.



    CLASS!! ATTENTION-case in point:



    THIS is the kind of BS that propaganda and LIES fuel to an uninformed and uneducated naive population-



    I'll leave this one to class to do a little research - this can be disproven fairly quickly with elementary search skills-



    Students: Failure at this task will make your overall grade fall well below a passing grade and you will have to retake the course. You must pass this one kids.
  • Reply 99 of 178
    sendmesendme Posts: 567member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DrDoppio View Post


    Interesting... IANAL, so I must ask: can using the Safari browser void the warranty? Is this mentioned in the EULA?





    Don't worry. Apple would never void your warrenty just because you visited a certain website.



    But that brings up an interesting point. Why doesn't Apple limit the websites people are allowed to visit? That way, we wouldn't be taking these kinds of risks. We could know that if we visit a website that Apple coded into our iPhone as "allowed", we would be better off knowing it would not harm our device.
  • Reply 100 of 178
    sendmesendme Posts: 567member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by shadash View Post


    The data is the same whether it goes through the phone or your computer..





    If you don't want to buy it, then don't buy it. But stealing is stealing.
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