This is impossible. No spouse would agree to that. Where are her contacts, email, txt accounts, bookmarks, etc. That is just preposterous. No woman I have ever met would go along with that unless you copied all of her data to the new phone. And why would you go through that laborious process just to see her reaction. BS.
It was only for the day, and we're not so subservient to our smartphones that we can't occasionally switch things up for the fun of it.
The rest is called 'organization', as we share most of the same contacts (sharing essentially the same family members, friends, and all), so they're all synched to both our MS Exchange as well as Google/Gmail accounts... We're faithful, trusting and secure enough in our relationship that we needn't hide such trivialities as 'contacts, texts, e-mails, etc from one another).
No more confusing than the (equally ignorant) faction of society that refers to any/all SUVs as Jeeps, when JEEP is clearly a brand name, not a category of vehicle.
It was only for the day, and we're not so subservient to our smartphones that we can't occasionally switch things up for the fun of it.
The rest is called 'organization', as we share most of the same contacts (sharing essentially the same family members, friends, and all), so they're all synched to both our MS Exchange as well as Google/Gmail accounts... We're faithful, trusting and secure enough in our relationship that we needn't hide such trivialities as 'contacts, texts, e-mails, etc from one another).
I hope that clears up your (obvious) confusion.
My parents used to share the same email account in the early 90s but in today's web centric environment of personal communication an individual account is indispensable.
My parents used to share the same email account in the early 90s but in today's web centric environment of personal communication an individual account is indispensable.
My parents used to share the same email account in the early 90s but in today's web centric environment of personal communication an individual account is indispensable.
I still call BS
Given that you don't know a thing about me (personally) or my relationship(s)... I Still Don't Care
Note: Maybe, just maybe, my relationship is a bit more trusting, mature, and 'ideal' than any of yours have been.
Given that you don't know a thing about me (personally) or my relationship(s)... I Still Don't Care
Note: Maybe, just maybe, my relationship is a bit more trusting, mature, and 'ideal' than any of yours have been.
Ridiculous!
Hi Mom,
I know the email 'from name' says it is from 'Da' but actually it is me. He took my iPhone away from me and forced me to use his crazy phone instead. I might be sleeping at your place tonight. Just an FYI.
I know the email 'from name' says it is from 'Da' but actually it is me. He took my iPhone away from me and forced me to use his crazy phone instead. I might be sleeping at your place tonight. Just an FYI.
Love .
your Daughter.
Usually if it's family related, it goes/is sent to the 'family e-mail account', but honestly, It's Really None of Your Business.
I know that it's the norm for 'certain members' to wage personal attacks when left with no other argument, but I'm Not The One, so I suggest you return to the topic at hand... you know the one in which you really had no constructive position.
Usually if it's family related, it goes/is sent to the 'family e-mail account', but honestly, It's Really None of Your Business.
I know that it's the norm for 'certain members' to wage personal attacks when left with no other argument, but I'm Not The One, so I suggest you return to the topic at hand... you know the one in which you really had no constructive position.
As a consumer, why would that be important to me?. Actually, why would either question be important to me?. As a consumer, the only important question is if i want to buy your product. As a shareholder, which company makes the most profit is important. As a developer, which company has the most market share is most important.
(1)what kind of product and why? how much you willing to pay? or not at all?
(2) what kind of support you want?
(3) what kind of reliability you expect?
(4) what you want do with it? (assume not going to be too secure, open source with code can be accessed)
(5) how many functions you are required and willing to pay for it. (developer keep your eyes open on this one... someone want free OS, how much they will pay for apps?)
(6) over all, please list rank from 1 to X: what is most important to you?
You can't have it both ways. You can't claim that Android is doing better than Apple based on ALL Android phone sales and then ask us to ignore all the highest volume BOGO phones.
Actually, you can't have it both ways.
iPhones sales are largely helped by the massive handset subsidies given by the carriers --- so much so that AT&T had to give out a profit margin warning. Verizon never had to give out a profit margin warning on their BOGO deals.
It's amazing how fast the Android is taking over the Smartphone market. I hope Apple start making something more that just one IPhone 4.
Well thanks to the original IPhone, we got now all these new amazing Androids phones (Droid X, Evo 4G, Epic, Galaxy X, etc). And the new phones that are coming looks even better.
I 'consider' said FACT everyday, since I'm very pleased with my DROID, DROID X, Archos 5IT, Achos 7HT, and (just received) iRobot aPad
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Originally Posted by DaHarder
Not unlike the 'fragmentation' that currently exists among my Apple devices e.g. my iPod Touch, iPhone and iPad all run different versions of Apple's iOs.
Is there a backlog of orders for Droids? Apple still can't produce enough iPhones to meet the demand. Is Motorola somehow able to manufacture phones faster than Apple? How many Droids are they selling internationally?
As long as iPhone is perceived to be the best smartphone, Apple will be successful, regardless if they are #3.
I don't think the Motorola Droid is well known outside of the US, internationally there is some hype about HTC and Samsung, etc. Android smartphones. But it really could be people are buying more Android smartphones than they would simply because internationally iPhone 4 is so rare and difficult to obtain!
I wanted an iPhone the second I saw (years ago) it but I have a Sprint family account that I can't get out of as did most of the people I knew. Yeah, a lot of people would prefer an iPhone and I understand why--I'm a designer and understand how aesthetics promotes a well designed UI and iPhone still has a better designed UI. As apposed to BB who's UI are terrible. And Android's is non existent. My Evo has Sense which is just ugly.
But now with 2.2 on these faster phones, I have to say that my yearning for iPhone is over. Sprint has two more Android phones coming, US Cellular, Verizon and to make matters worse, AT&T!! Now that's a slap in the face. I will never understand why Apple plays hardball like this. They shot themselves in the foot by only staying loyal to AT&T. that used to irritate me soooo much because I wanted an iPhone.
So now, I only know one iPhone user (who's dumping it for a Droid X next week). My kids have Android phones because Sprint let us have them for $50 each and gave us the same unlimited user plan. Two other family members are getting Galaxy Ss and another is getting a DELL Streak... How can Apple compete with this?
People have to start taking open source development more seriously. I always have.
Apple will only even pause to think about not playing hardball... when globally, they are able to actually make more phones than they can sell.
Agreed to a point. But they're far more open source than Apple is. The deepest parts of the code are protected but the vast majority is not. The most important part is that manufacturers don't pay for licensing and anyone can modify the OS through rooting and custom ROMs. In addition, rooting an Android device is far more beneficial for the user than jailbreaking is for the iPhone user.
Oh, so it's not important that Android is open, just that it's free? So all that talk by Google about open isn't really meant to mean anything?
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And, as an aside, (not at you), please stop with the "fragmentation" argument. There's fragmentation everywhere. Look at the latest iOS update on the iPhone 3G. It's a DISASTER!!!! The anti-Android/pro-iPhone users have created the illusion of fragmentation to scare off those who might be interested in the OS. It's not unlike Fox News with it's purported "fair and balanced" crap.
I don't think you understand what fragmentation is. The case of the 3G is not fragmentation. Fragmentation is the Chinese ripping out the proprietary parts of Android and replacing them with their own proprietary parts.
Yesterday morning I OTAd my DROID to Android Froyo/2.2 and asked the spouse to use it for the day instead of the usual iPhone4 just to see what the reaction would be.
All I heard this morning was, 'Wow, this phone is really fast'... 'can I customize my home screen to do what Launcher Pro Plus does?' ... "I noticed that you have a choice of MMS, music players, and other programs, is there anyway for me to change the ones on my iPhone?"... and on and on... though sadly the answer to all questions was, "No, Apple doesn't ' allow that kind of thing with their core apps".
Personally, That's what I (and many others) like most about Android-based smartphones... C H O I C E
Android is infinitely customizable in almost every way, designed to function/look the way most beneficial to the user, not just an appliance that forces the user to accept what has been given to them.
Most consumers of high-end/ smartphones may not care about choice of music players, etc. Just sayin'. I've seen tons of people use their iPhones for months without even connecting to iTunes. That's how clueless they are. And Android is now hyped as the "next iPhone" so people are gaga over it, I don't think they are fully aware of what it can do or why it's good, at least from a global perspective. Maybe US smartphone users are smarter, I don't know...
In the UK there is hardly any Androids. Why? iPhone comes Sim-free. I bet it's the same in many other countries too. When iPhone goes sim free the game will feature Black Berry and iPhone. Android and all it's unfortunate supporters will find the only reason why people went with it, is because of FUD about AT&T being a bad network. Soon as they try the iPhone out on other networks and these other networks get some payload, the'll find the same problems. Guess what? Will they return it for an Android? Hell NO! They'd rather suffer with there BB or iPhone then have to turn back to that FOSS POS known as Android.
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Bill Gates is happier, he doesn't work anymore. Apple doesn't do well sans Steve.
So you are thinking that Steve doesn't enjoy his work?
This is impossible. No spouse would agree to that. Where are her contacts, email, txt accounts, bookmarks, etc. That is just preposterous. No woman I have ever met would go along with that unless you copied all of her data to the new phone. And why would you go through that laborious process just to see her reaction. BS.
It was only for the day, and we're not so subservient to our smartphones that we can't occasionally switch things up for the fun of it.
The rest is called 'organization', as we share most of the same contacts (sharing essentially the same family members, friends, and all), so they're all synched to both our MS Exchange as well as Google/Gmail accounts... We're faithful, trusting and secure enough in our relationship that we needn't hide such trivialities as 'contacts, texts, e-mails, etc from one another).
I hope that clears up your (obvious) confusion.
No more confusing than the (equally ignorant) faction of society that refers to any/all SUVs as Jeeps, when JEEP is clearly a brand name, not a category of vehicle.
Haven't heard anyone doing that.
It was only for the day, and we're not so subservient to our smartphones that we can't occasionally switch things up for the fun of it.
The rest is called 'organization', as we share most of the same contacts (sharing essentially the same family members, friends, and all), so they're all synched to both our MS Exchange as well as Google/Gmail accounts... We're faithful, trusting and secure enough in our relationship that we needn't hide such trivialities as 'contacts, texts, e-mails, etc from one another).
I hope that clears up your (obvious) confusion.
My parents used to share the same email account in the early 90s but in today's web centric environment of personal communication an individual account is indispensable.
I still call BS
My parents used to share the same email account in the early 90s but in today's web centric environment of personal communication an individual account is indispensable.
I still call BS
Personally, the salesman story was much better.
My parents used to share the same email account in the early 90s but in today's web centric environment of personal communication an individual account is indispensable.
I still call BS
Given that you don't know a thing about me (personally) or my relationship(s)... I Still Don't Care
Note: Maybe, just maybe, my relationship is a bit more trusting, mature, and 'ideal' than any of yours have been.
Given that you don't know a thing about me (personally) or my relationship(s)... I Still Don't Care
Note: Maybe, just maybe, my relationship is a bit more trusting, mature, and 'ideal' than any of yours have been.
Ridiculous!
Hi Mom,
I know the email 'from name' says it is from 'Da' but actually it is me. He took my iPhone away from me and forced me to use his crazy phone instead. I might be sleeping at your place tonight. Just an FYI.
Love .
your Daughter.
Ridiculous!
Hi Mom,
I know the email 'from name' says it is from 'Da' but actually it is me. He took my iPhone away from me and forced me to use his crazy phone instead. I might be sleeping at your place tonight. Just an FYI.
Love .
your Daughter.
Usually if it's family related, it goes/is sent to the 'family e-mail account', but honestly, It's Really None of Your Business.
I know that it's the norm for 'certain members' to wage personal attacks when left with no other argument, but I'm Not The One, so I suggest you return to the topic at hand... you know the one in which you really had no constructive position.
Have A Nice Day.
Usually if it's family related, it goes/is sent to the 'family e-mail account', but honestly, It's Really None of Your Business.
I know that it's the norm for 'certain members' to wage personal attacks when left with no other argument, but I'm Not The One, so I suggest you return to the topic at hand... you know the one in which you really had no constructive position.
Have A Nice Day.
How many banjos do you own?
As a consumer, why would that be important to me?. Actually, why would either question be important to me?. As a consumer, the only important question is if i want to buy your product. As a shareholder, which company makes the most profit is important. As a developer, which company has the most market share is most important.
(1)what kind of product and why? how much you willing to pay? or not at all?
(2) what kind of support you want?
(3) what kind of reliability you expect?
(4) what you want do with it? (assume not going to be too secure, open source with code can be accessed)
(5) how many functions you are required and willing to pay for it. (developer keep your eyes open on this one... someone want free OS, how much they will pay for apps?)
(6) over all, please list rank from 1 to X: what is most important to you?
You can't have it both ways. You can't claim that Android is doing better than Apple based on ALL Android phone sales and then ask us to ignore all the highest volume BOGO phones.
Actually, you can't have it both ways.
iPhones sales are largely helped by the massive handset subsidies given by the carriers --- so much so that AT&T had to give out a profit margin warning. Verizon never had to give out a profit margin warning on their BOGO deals.
Actually, you can't have it both ways.
Hmmm?
That's exactly what he said... "you can't have it both ways" and you then counter with "Actually, you can't have it both ways" (jragosta post #131) -
Well thanks to the original IPhone, we got now all these new amazing Androids phones (Droid X, Evo 4G, Epic, Galaxy X, etc). And the new phones that are coming looks even better.
This competition benefits all of us
I 'consider' said FACT everyday, since I'm very pleased with my DROID, DROID X, Archos 5IT, Achos 7HT, and (just received) iRobot aPad
Not unlike the 'fragmentation' that currently exists among my Apple devices e.g. my iPod Touch, iPhone and iPad all run different versions of Apple's iOs.
Note: You can't have it both ways
Just out of curiosity, you have:
1) 4 Tablets (Archos 5IT, Archos 7HT, iRobot aPad, iPad)
2) 3 Smart Phones (DROID, DROID X, iPhone)
3) 1 iPod Touch
Why?
What so you do with them?
How many ATT contracts do you have?
How many Verizon, Sprint T-Mobile contracts do you have?
.
Ah, in which case, what is Apple's true market share?
(Petard. Hoist).
I'm not sure.
Likewise with Android. There are many tablets, laptops, cars, nooks, MIDs, and non-phone Android handhelds sold, but the numbers are not known yet.
Is there a backlog of orders for Droids? Apple still can't produce enough iPhones to meet the demand. Is Motorola somehow able to manufacture phones faster than Apple? How many Droids are they selling internationally?
As long as iPhone is perceived to be the best smartphone, Apple will be successful, regardless if they are #3.
I don't think the Motorola Droid is well known outside of the US, internationally there is some hype about HTC and Samsung, etc. Android smartphones. But it really could be people are buying more Android smartphones than they would simply because internationally iPhone 4 is so rare and difficult to obtain!
I wanted an iPhone the second I saw (years ago) it but I have a Sprint family account that I can't get out of as did most of the people I knew. Yeah, a lot of people would prefer an iPhone and I understand why--I'm a designer and understand how aesthetics promotes a well designed UI and iPhone still has a better designed UI. As apposed to BB who's UI are terrible. And Android's is non existent. My Evo has Sense which is just ugly.
But now with 2.2 on these faster phones, I have to say that my yearning for iPhone is over. Sprint has two more Android phones coming, US Cellular, Verizon and to make matters worse, AT&T!! Now that's a slap in the face.
So now, I only know one iPhone user (who's dumping it for a Droid X next week). My kids have Android phones because Sprint let us have them for $50 each and gave us the same unlimited user plan. Two other family members are getting Galaxy Ss and another is getting a DELL Streak... How can Apple compete with this?
People have to start taking open source development more seriously. I always have.
Apple will only even pause to think about not playing hardball... when globally, they are able to actually make more phones than they can sell.
Agreed to a point. But they're far more open source than Apple is. The deepest parts of the code are protected but the vast majority is not. The most important part is that manufacturers don't pay for licensing and anyone can modify the OS through rooting and custom ROMs. In addition, rooting an Android device is far more beneficial for the user than jailbreaking is for the iPhone user.
Oh, so it's not important that Android is open, just that it's free? So all that talk by Google about open isn't really meant to mean anything?
And, as an aside, (not at you), please stop with the "fragmentation" argument. There's fragmentation everywhere. Look at the latest iOS update on the iPhone 3G. It's a DISASTER!!!! The anti-Android/pro-iPhone users have created the illusion of fragmentation to scare off those who might be interested in the OS. It's not unlike Fox News with it's purported "fair and balanced" crap.
I don't think you understand what fragmentation is. The case of the 3G is not fragmentation. Fragmentation is the Chinese ripping out the proprietary parts of Android and replacing them with their own proprietary parts.
Agreed, and my experience is very similar.
Yesterday morning I OTAd my DROID to Android Froyo/2.2 and asked the spouse to use it for the day instead of the usual iPhone4 just to see what the reaction would be.
All I heard this morning was, 'Wow, this phone is really fast'... 'can I customize my home screen to do what Launcher Pro Plus does?' ... "I noticed that you have a choice of MMS, music players, and other programs, is there anyway for me to change the ones on my iPhone?"... and on and on... though sadly the answer to all questions was, "No, Apple doesn't ' allow that kind of thing with their core apps".
Personally, That's what I (and many others) like most about Android-based smartphones... C H O I C E
Android is infinitely customizable in almost every way, designed to function/look the way most beneficial to the user, not just an appliance that forces the user to accept what has been given to them.
Most consumers of high-end/ smartphones may not care about choice of music players, etc. Just sayin'. I've seen tons of people use their iPhones for months without even connecting to iTunes. That's how clueless they are. And Android is now hyped as the "next iPhone" so people are gaga over it, I don't think they are fully aware of what it can do or why it's good, at least from a global perspective. Maybe US smartphone users are smarter, I don't know...
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