If anything flour+water should be PRAISED for not letting a billionaire walk in and get a table ahead of someone, forcing everybody else to wait even longer. I have not eaten here yet but I already admire their business practices. Sounds like a humbling moment for Steve that he probably needed and hasn't had in a long time!
LOL. That's how Karl Marx got started.
How do you know that doesn't happen to him all the time? As far as I'm concerned, AT&T drops his calls as often as they drop everyone else's. It's not like his SIM card gets magical preference over the rest of the schlubs battling it out for bandwidth in San Francisco's crowded cell towers.
If I had his money I?d pay people to put pants on me. And I wouldn?t be walking around in public. That seems so pedestrian.
Seriously, this is news? If he threw a fit and demanded a table because he?s Steve Jobs and got turned away or if he bought the restaurant and then fired the guy that turned him away, that would be news.
Hey, you're talking about Steve Jobs. If he bought the restaurant, before he was done all the workers would be wearing gold-plated diapers!
Most of the people in there are Photoshopped in," user "Ryan" commented. "The person who did it lined up in the shadows with the shadows of the telephone wires instead of the shadows in the telephone pole. Steve Jobs, dude in blue, girl in white -- all cropped in. Even shadows of people behind the camera are cropped in."
The use of the expression 'cropped in' clearly demonstrates that this person went to art school and should be considered an expert.
Actually, I DID just take an art class and aced it.
Ironically, for the final we had to come up with a storyboard of sketches that told a story.
Include a person, something mechanical, something abstract, some other artist's style, something architectural... and draw part of it by non-traditional means.
The irony?
I used Steve Jobs holding an Apple, the iPod, the Apple Logo by Rob Janoff, 1 Infinite Loop, and the iPad.
I also cut a 2" wide Apple Logo from 1/4" thick steel with a plasma cutter and polished it.
BTW, the flaw with the wide-angle lens argument is the shadows of the power lines are pretty straight.
If it was a wide lens they'd curve a lot more as you go outward from center.
That's a lot of typing just to prove that you don't know what "irony" means.
You guys are arguing about the shadows on the ground? Have you ever seen a Star Wars movie? The shadows line up in each scene, but that doesn't prove anything in the scene is "real".
True. It's possible for the shadows in a fake picture to be just as correct as in a real picture.
But if the shadows are incorrect, then it MUST be a fake.
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Occam's Razor falls before a really good hoax.
No, Occam's Razor says that no one in their right mind cares whether Jobs got a seat in that restaurant or not.
You guys are arguing about the shadows on the ground? Have you ever seen a Star Wars movie? The shadows line up in each scene, but that doesn't prove anything in the scene is "real".
Yeah, but if they are wrong, it proves it was doctored or it was a fake (CGI) shot.
No. I compared Steve's "shadow" with the shadow of the person to the left of the camera.
Now that's just silly. You can't trust the photograph enough to do *that*.
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Since they are both standing on the same plane, their shadows should have the same degree of sharpness and darkness.
Well not exactly, no. It all depends on many things. For one, the difference isn't that much. So the slight difference can be explained otherwise, by ambient lighting, materials, etc.,etc. And, btw there's no one in the same distance as Jobs is. *No one*. So you can't make a fair comparison. Again, you are gasping for straws.
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That power line is 20+ feet higher than their heads, of course the shadow it casts is fuzzy.
You mean the part about walking around being pedestrian?
I meant that to be a double entendre. The first sentence was me being silly.
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Yeah, but if they are wrong, it proves it was doctored or it was a fake (CGI) shot.
There was a Mythbusters episode on the moon landing that showed shadows pointing in different directions can come from a single light source. I think it had to do with a 2D image showing a 2D shadow based on a 3D object. This isn't my field of expertise but the conclusion seemed reasonable to me to debunk those you think te moon landing images were faked.
And please, you guys didn't show that this was fake at all. All you got are banana arguments. I couldn't give a shit if this was a fake or not. But when I saw the "experts" opinion on the original post, and then I saw the picture, I couldn't relate *at all*. If this is a fake, let me tell you, it's a damn good one. Now why would anyone spend so much time making such a good fake for such a stupid story?
Anything's possible, I guess. Anyhoo, it's irrelevant. I'm just here combating the sheer ignorance of the people that apparently have too many opinions for their own sake.
How come no one is "praising" Jobs for waiting his turn, and walking out when no tables were available? It's not like he cut the line, threw down $100 and demanded to be seated. Cut the guy some slack he is just trying to go out and get some dinner.
I meant that to be a double entendre. The first sentence was me being silly.
There was a Mythbusters episode on the moon landing that showed shadows pointing in different directions can come from a single light source. I think it had to do with a 2D image showing a 2D shadow based on a 3D object. This isn't my field of expertise but the conclusion seemed reasonable to me to debunk those you think te moon landing images were faked.
Sounds like they just made up a scientific sounding explanation.
Anyhoo, it's irrelevant. I'm just here combating the sheer ignorance of the people that apparently have too many opinions for their own sake.
And how's that working out for you?
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Now why would anyone spend so much time making such a good fake for such a stupid story?
Likely for the same reason someone would spend so much time "combating the sheer ignorance of the people that apparently have too many opinions for their own sake".
Sounds like they just made up a scientific sounding explanation.
No, they recreated the physical scene in a scale model. It didn?t prove that that moon landing wasn?t faked, but it did prove that a signal light source can cause shadows that don?t appear to line up from a single observation point, thus debunking the conspiracy theorists claims that the pic is proof that it was faked.
PS: The moon landing is more enjoyable than this story.
That is awesome! Buzz Lightyear* is my hero! I wish I could do that to some of the asshats on this forum but I’m sure they would be timid little mice in person.
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If anything flour+water should be PRAISED for not letting a billionaire walk in and get a table ahead of someone, forcing everybody else to wait even longer. I have not eaten here yet but I already admire their business practices. Sounds like a humbling moment for Steve that he probably needed and hasn't had in a long time!
LOL. That's how Karl Marx got started.
How do you know that doesn't happen to him all the time? As far as I'm concerned, AT&T drops his calls as often as they drop everyone else's. It's not like his SIM card gets magical preference over the rest of the schlubs battling it out for bandwidth in San Francisco's crowded cell towers.
If I had his money I?d pay people to put pants on me. And I wouldn?t be walking around in public. That seems so pedestrian.
Seriously, this is news? If he threw a fit and demanded a table because he?s Steve Jobs and got turned away or if he bought the restaurant and then fired the guy that turned him away, that would be news.
Hey, you're talking about Steve Jobs. If he bought the restaurant, before he was done all the workers would be wearing gold-plated diapers!
Most of the people in there are Photoshopped in," user "Ryan" commented. "The person who did it lined up in the shadows with the shadows of the telephone wires instead of the shadows in the telephone pole. Steve Jobs, dude in blue, girl in white -- all cropped in. Even shadows of people behind the camera are cropped in."
The use of the expression 'cropped in' clearly demonstrates that this person went to art school and should be considered an expert.
Occam's Razor falls before a really good hoax.
Actually, I DID just take an art class and aced it.
Ironically, for the final we had to come up with a storyboard of sketches that told a story.
Include a person, something mechanical, something abstract, some other artist's style, something architectural... and draw part of it by non-traditional means.
The irony?
I used Steve Jobs holding an Apple, the iPod, the Apple Logo by Rob Janoff, 1 Infinite Loop, and the iPad.
I also cut a 2" wide Apple Logo from 1/4" thick steel with a plasma cutter and polished it.
BTW, the flaw with the wide-angle lens argument is the shadows of the power lines are pretty straight.
If it was a wide lens they'd curve a lot more as you go outward from center.
That's a lot of typing just to prove that you don't know what "irony" means.
You guys are arguing about the shadows on the ground? Have you ever seen a Star Wars movie? The shadows line up in each scene, but that doesn't prove anything in the scene is "real".
True. It's possible for the shadows in a fake picture to be just as correct as in a real picture.
But if the shadows are incorrect, then it MUST be a fake.
Occam's Razor falls before a really good hoax.
No, Occam's Razor says that no one in their right mind cares whether Jobs got a seat in that restaurant or not.
You guys are arguing about the shadows on the ground? Have you ever seen a Star Wars movie? The shadows line up in each scene, but that doesn't prove anything in the scene is "real".
Yeah, but if they are wrong, it proves it was doctored or it was a fake (CGI) shot.
That's a lot of typing just to prove that you don't know what "irony" means.
Yeah, it's like goldy and bronzy, only it's made of iron.
No. I compared Steve's "shadow" with the shadow of the person to the left of the camera.
Now that's just silly. You can't trust the photograph enough to do *that*.
Since they are both standing on the same plane, their shadows should have the same degree of sharpness and darkness.
Well not exactly, no. It all depends on many things. For one, the difference isn't that much. So the slight difference can be explained otherwise, by ambient lighting, materials, etc.,etc. And, btw there's no one in the same distance as Jobs is. *No one*. So you can't make a fair comparison. Again, you are gasping for straws.
That power line is 20+ feet higher than their heads, of course the shadow it casts is fuzzy.
Oh geeze. At least you score that one.
You mean the part about walking around being pedestrian?
I meant that to be a double entendre. The first sentence was me being silly.
Yeah, but if they are wrong, it proves it was doctored or it was a fake (CGI) shot.
There was a Mythbusters episode on the moon landing that showed shadows pointing in different directions can come from a single light source. I think it had to do with a 2D image showing a 2D shadow based on a 3D object. This isn't my field of expertise but the conclusion seemed reasonable to me to debunk those you think te moon landing images were faked.
Anything's possible, I guess. Anyhoo, it's irrelevant. I'm just here combating the sheer ignorance of the people that apparently have too many opinions for their own sake.
I meant that to be a double entendre. The first sentence was me being silly.
There was a Mythbusters episode on the moon landing that showed shadows pointing in different directions can come from a single light source. I think it had to do with a 2D image showing a 2D shadow based on a 3D object. This isn't my field of expertise but the conclusion seemed reasonable to me to debunk those you think te moon landing images were faked.
Sounds like they just made up a scientific sounding explanation.
The use of the expression 'cropped in' clearly demonstrates that this person went to art school and should be considered an expert.
I would love to be able to "crop in" things in my pictures. That would be magic to be able to expand the photo after it's been taken!
to debunk those you think te moon landing images were faked.
Of course it was fake. I read it on the internet!
Tell that to Buzz Aldrin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUI36tPKDg4
He puts his pants on one leg at a time like everyone else.
I have always been bothered by this saying, am I the only one who puts pants on 2 legs at a time?
Anyhoo, it's irrelevant. I'm just here combating the sheer ignorance of the people that apparently have too many opinions for their own sake.
And how's that working out for you?
Now why would anyone spend so much time making such a good fake for such a stupid story?
Likely for the same reason someone would spend so much time "combating the sheer ignorance of the people that apparently have too many opinions for their own sake".
Dunno???
Sounds like they just made up a scientific sounding explanation.
No, they recreated the physical scene in a scale model. It didn?t prove that that moon landing wasn?t faked, but it did prove that a signal light source can cause shadows that don?t appear to line up from a single observation point, thus debunking the conspiracy theorists claims that the pic is proof that it was faked.
PS: The moon landing is more enjoyable than this story.
Of course it was fake. I read it on the internet!
Tell that to Buzz Aldrin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUI36tPKDg4
That is awesome! Buzz Lightyear* is my hero! I wish I could do that to some of the asshats on this forum but I’m sure they would be timid little mice in person.