I agree. I believe that this will always be how Android devices will be split. The latest version for the high-end phones, and the "just passed" version for feature phones. High-end would have 3.0 while feature phones will get 2.1.
I think this will be by design because if all phones had the latest version of Android, then what would separate the high-end from the feature phones as a selling point (as hardware becomes cheaper and cheaper to manufacture)? Apple must have all their iDevices on the latest version because they aren't marketing any of them as feature phones.
It?s interesting to study these very dynamic business models. It?s even more diverse than what we?ve seen with Windows PCs v. Macs for the last couple decades because the OS vendor isn?t the one making sure their OS works with as many devices as possible due to the nature of the phone as an appliance.
One reason I tend to like Apple is that we are reasonable certain iOS will be brought three years of their phones and PMPs next to (if not slightly before) they release their next phone. This is unprecedented and is virtually impossible for other handset vendors to compete with without incurring excessive costs and delays trying to do so.
On the HW side, Apple has a double-edged sword of a limited product line that allows for economy of scale and diseconomy of scale from volume sales increasing profit per unit and the potential lack of components for manufacturing, respectively. For this reason I have to expect Apple to diverge the product line at some point, like they did with the iPod. I also expect this to happen with the Mac as we?ve already seen this occur with Intel?s latest chips.
It?s funny how the OS seems to be the most compared yet it?s really a pointless metric due to divergent business models, so long as the OS has a large enough user base to be viable.
Devices, not smartphones and not small limites product lineup all using the same components. How many of those 65.3M Samsung phones have 802.11n or Categpry 5 HSUPA or even the same high-end display panel type?
Well as of a month ago they reportedly had sold 1.3 million such devices - the Wave and Galaxy S, after them being on the market for roughly six weeks for the wave and less for the Galaxy. They reportedly anticipate selling 10 m Waves this year. I would imagine they will be selling a lot of Galaxys as well.
A rather twisted way of thinking. Samsung sold 65.3 m devices vs Apples 8.7 m in the same period.
Then ask yourself, where does a large proportion of the components that make up those 8.7 m come from?
Vertical integration - win, win.
And Staples sold 500 billion paperclips in the same time frame. So what? Why are you comparing Samsung's total sales - including dumb phones that Apple doesn't have an interest in) with Apple's smartphone sales?
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except toyota makes a lot more CARS, than the camry.
Just as Apple sells a lot more iDevices than the iPhone.
Yes, the "power and the potential of the cloud" to Google is the opportunity to get their hands on more of your data, further invade your privacy, and add to their e-dossier on you. Why should Apple implement something on iOS that helps Google violate customers privacy? And does anyone really still trust Google after their hypocritical sellout on net neutrality?
The rest of the world is as tin-foil paranoid as you. Get over it.
I'll trade my supposed loss of privacy for the convenience that comes with cloud-device integration.
And Staples sold 500 billion paperclips in the same time frame. So what? Why are you comparing Samsung's total sales - including dumb phones that Apple doesn't have an interest in) with Apple's smartphone sales?
Just as Apple sells a lot more iDevices than the iPhone.
Based on this Android outsold iOS which included the iPad and iPod Touch.
FaceTime is gimmickry? How is anyone supposed to take you seriously when you write stupid things like this. And Android's big innovation is cloud services? Wow, that's some innovation there.
Cloud integration is far more innovative than Facetime, essentially another video calling app when it comes down to it. And yes it's gimmicky. Anybody who lacks bias can see it. iPhone 4 to iPhone 4. Only on wifi. How much opportunity is there to actually use it with those kinds of restrictions? That's what makes it a gimmick.
I have several friends who have had iPhone 4s for months now (in the US) and a few weeks here in Canada. I asked around. Not a single one has used Facetime even once. Why? Too much of a hassle to to track down other iPhone 4 users and compel them to find wifi and get a video chat going. Basically, this'll only be handy if you can convince those closest to you to also take up an iPhone 4.
I'll take it more seriously when it's more universal (multi-platform), runs on 3G (so you can video chat with anybody, anytime, anywhere) and has a desktop client (or at least a tie-in to say iChat). Till then, it makes for nice Apple TV spots pushing iPhone 4s to couples in long distance relationships (nice niche market I suppose).
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Maybe you are right, maybe Android is the new Windows, and Google is the new Microsoft, and the Android fans are just as clueless as the Windows fans always have been. I do think Android mostly appeals to the same type of person Windows always has.
The problem with people like you is that you can't imagine a world where people use what's best for them. I use a Mac at home, an Android on the go, and I will be getting an iPad (just debating to buy it now or wait for gen 2).
You can see everything in black and white, Microsoft vs. Apple type of situations if you wish. The rest of the world is a little more sophisticated than that and we can see the benefits of different platforms and choose accordingly. For example, tieing an iPad to my unlimited data plan using my Android's wifi hotspot feature. I know that kind of usage is beyond your comprehension. But people actually think like that in the real world. Not everybody wants a second telco bill every month for the mere privilege of being a total Apple fanboy. But hey if you want to tie your technological advancement to one company, good for you. That's not me.
The rest of the world is as tin-foil paranoid as you. Get over it.
I'll trade my supposed loss of privacy for the convenience that comes with cloud-device integration.
And it works well with my Mac too. Another bonus.
Yes, it's tin-foil paranoia not to trust Google, how's that net neutrality pact with Verizon sit with you? pretty happy with that too? You're exactly the sort of mark they are looking for.
Yes, it's tin-foil paranoia not to trust Google, how's that net neutrality pact with Verizon sit with you? pretty happy with that too? You're exactly the sort of mark they are looking for.
They do seem to have some interest in search. I am sure they could use their data centre to power the Siri searches, but those searches are much more narrowly focused than google searches. If you are doing general knowledge or trivia questions, you would use google. If you are looking for a local restaurant or want a taxi, you might use Apple/Siri. It is an encroachment on google's turf, but doesn't seem threatening to me.
+1
I don't think it's easy to topple Google in the search business. But what Apple can probably do well is that Siri kind of stuff. Android's now bringing similar features on stream with the Places app and Voice Search. And Apple should (and probably will) launch some kind of local search feature using Siri.
As far as the cloud goes, I really don't think Apple needs to tackle search to have a solid cloud product that interests consumers. What's attractive about Google's cloud? It's all the stuff like GMail, Calendar, Contacts, (to some extent) Google Talk, etc. This all stuff that Apple could easily match.
The problem here though is Apple's insistence on charging for this stuff. I get why they do it (ad-free). But ultimately, as Android gets better and better on base usability of the device, and feature differentiation starts to matter more, iOS is going to feel like a nickel-and-diming experience to the average consumer. And let's face it, while the average iPhone user is a more premium customer, just as much of that premium factor comes from the fact that they are smartphone users as they are Apple users. And once these consumers start figuring out that things like Navigation, e-mail, photo-sharing are free on Android, it'll only help the migration.
Personally, I think there's a case to be made for Apple to actually position itself as a premium brand (right now they say they are, but their prices say otherwise). Charge more for their handsets than other OEMs but offer ad-free, superb cloud services (MobileMe) for free right out of the box. Who would not pay $300 for an iPhone (on contract) if it included free lifetime MobileMe? As it stands though, if you are a heavy user of Google's services (maps, Gmail, search, news, etc.) why would you choose anything else over an OS optimized to run with those services?
As for navigation, I really think Apple should bite the bullet and acquire TomTom (that pile of cash has to be good for something). iPhone with free TomTom would probably be more compelling than Nokia's navigation or Android with Google Navigation.
Missed your earlier post. In any case I alway have to laugh at the fanboys that say they could care less about market share until its proven there is no way they can gain the top market share. Even though the past has proven market share has nothing to do with profit.
Yes, it's tin-foil paranoia not to trust Google, how's that net neutrality pact with Verizon sit with you? pretty happy with that too? You're exactly the sort of mark they are looking for.
Living in Canada, where net neutrality is mandated for both wired and wireless internet, I could not care less about what happens in the US. The world is a lot bigger than the USA. And so is the internet.
Besides which, from everything I've read, Google only seems to have cut this deal because your legislators and regulators were lazy and Google was worried that the absolute lack of regulation could actually lead to far worse outcomes.
Just because you have a broken legislative system and useless regulators who can't do their jobs properly, don't assume the rest of the world has those problems too.
The CRTC imposed net neutrality across the board here in Canada months ago. And it didn't take endless telco/ISP/content provider roundtables to do it. They had some industry consultation, some public consultation and ruled on it. I can't believe the FCC is actually trying to negotiate a deal in the US. What's up with that? They are regulator. Why can't they regulate?
Government that works. You guys should try it in that great republic of yours sometime.
Missed your earlier post. In any case I alway have to laugh at the fanboys that say they could care less about market share until its proven there is no way they can gain the top market share. Even though the past has proven market share has nothing to do with profit.
I think we all care about it, but it?s just a single metric and means very little in most cases, especially when comparing a freely available OS to one that only comes installed on a single vendor?s OS.
I don?t think anyone who has thought ahead would not expect iOS to be behind Android eventually. I even stated earlier that I fully expect many individual vendors using Android across their devices to surpass Apple?s use of iOS across their devices in a given quarter.
... To me, it's not something to get so worked up as you over. It came, it went, and our lives haven't changed for the worse.
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Originally Posted by Jetz
... Besides which, from everything I've read, Google only seems to have cut this deal because your legislators and regulators were lazy and Google was worried that the absolute lack of regulation could actually lead to far worse outcomes. ...
And they call Apple fans kool aid drinkers. You guys are completely delusional or none too bright if you actually believe this nonsense you are parroting. Google and Verizon have teamed up for a full frontal assault on net neutrality, and it will end up affecting you, wherever you live, if they get away with it. Face it, "Do no evil," is officially tossed out the window, even the pretense of it.
I think we all care about it, but it?s just a single metric and means very little in most cases, especially when comparing a freely available OS to one that only comes installed on a single vendor?s OS.
I don?t think anyone who has thought ahead would not expect iOS to be behind Android eventually. I even stated earlier that I fully expect many individual vendors using Android across their devices to surpass Apple?s use of iOS across their devices in a given quarter.
I remember you posting about the Android growth rate a while back but I have to say I didn't expect it to happen this year.
Having experience long term with both operating systems I have to say iOS is far better then Android overall. Which simply tells me what I have said all along most people simply aren't power users and as long as they have their social network apps and email they are more than happy.
The one thing I wish would happen is a 4.3 inch iPhone now that I have become use to that size. I know you like the smaller size but I have really become use to the bigger smartphone.
And they call Apple fans kool aid drinkers. You guys are completely delusional or none too bright if you actually believe this nonsense you are parroting. Google and Verizon have teamed up for a full frontal assault on net neutrality, and it will end up affecting you, wherever you live, if they get away with it. Face it, "Do no evil," is officially tossed out the window, even the pretense of it.
Mouse serious question. You are worried about Google and Verizon when it comes to net neutrality and I agree with you there is certainly something going. However what I don't understand is how you are okay and by the way bash me when I get onto Apple for their total control of content and telling us what we are allowed to view or install on devices we own.
Their Dev user agreement that was totally setup to block Adobe.
When Apple pulls this nonsense you tell everyone its them trying to provide the best user experience when all they are really doing is controlling content for their benefit to get you to buy into their entire ecosystem so they can profit.
Thats what makes Apple fans koolaid drinkers. The double standard.
You are correct in many ways when it comes to Google yet you give Apple a free pass for doing the same thing putting lockdowns and controls on everything to benefit their bottom line.
And they call Apple fans kool aid drinkers. You guys are completely delusional or none too bright if you actually believe this nonsense you are parroting. Google and Verizon have teamed up for a full frontal assault on net neutrality, and it will end up affecting you, wherever you live, if they get away with it. Face it, "Do no evil," is officially tossed out the window, even the pretense of it.
If you're so concerned, then what are you doing here on an Apple internet forum ranting? Shouldn't you be down at your legistator's office yelling and screaming at them? Or maybe outside the FCC with a picket sign?
Don't get me wrong. I, for one, understand what this "deal" could mean for net neutrality. But I'm just not as worked up about it as you are.
I personally see no reason to get my pitchfork and torch out of the closet yet.
The one thing I wish would happen is a 4.3 inch iPhone now that I have become use to that size. I know you like the smaller size but I have really become use to the bigger smartphone.
That Business Insider link I posted previously expects a larger screen iPhone in the 4? area.
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You can bet your left ass cheek that the iPhone 5 will have an Evo-sized screen with resolution to match today?s LCD flat screens, accompanied by the opening up of the iPhone to standards-based peripherals, ex. HDMI plugs and USB. The screen size increase is a definite, but peripherals is a maybe. Die hard Apple fans won?t mind that they have to jump through hoops to connect their device, but the rest of the world will lean towards an Android device if they can?t easily use their phone/tablet with existing hardware. Apple sees this as well as I do. I?m sure they?ll find a way to gimp the standard somewhat, but more open is better than less open.
Personally, I don?t see it. If Apple wanted to go that route for the extra room with larger battery they could have done it with the iPhone 4.
They could have still lead the market in display resolution, too. At 4.3? a 960x640 display has a PPI of 268. I think a ?retina display? for people at 20/20 vision at 12? away is 284 ppi or higher.
But they didn?t. They went for a very expensive display and kept it the same size so I have to think they are set on keeping this standard for devs and users. It makes sense.
I don?t recall if these larger display Android phones are simply expanding the UI elements of if the UI has been tailored for the increased display real estate. For instance, is there an extra button in a row or column for these 4.x? displays?
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In related news, all American cars combined outsold the Toyota Camry.
Story at 11.
except toyota makes a lot more CARS, than the camry.
It's amazing how defensive people get on a news item.
Anyway. So what, Both platforms are selling wildly. Great for competition, good for us.
I agree. I believe that this will always be how Android devices will be split. The latest version for the high-end phones, and the "just passed" version for feature phones. High-end would have 3.0 while feature phones will get 2.1.
I think this will be by design because if all phones had the latest version of Android, then what would separate the high-end from the feature phones as a selling point (as hardware becomes cheaper and cheaper to manufacture)? Apple must have all their iDevices on the latest version because they aren't marketing any of them as feature phones.
It?s interesting to study these very dynamic business models. It?s even more diverse than what we?ve seen with Windows PCs v. Macs for the last couple decades because the OS vendor isn?t the one making sure their OS works with as many devices as possible due to the nature of the phone as an appliance.
One reason I tend to like Apple is that we are reasonable certain iOS will be brought three years of their phones and PMPs next to (if not slightly before) they release their next phone. This is unprecedented and is virtually impossible for other handset vendors to compete with without incurring excessive costs and delays trying to do so.
On the HW side, Apple has a double-edged sword of a limited product line that allows for economy of scale and diseconomy of scale from volume sales increasing profit per unit and the potential lack of components for manufacturing, respectively. For this reason I have to expect Apple to diverge the product line at some point, like they did with the iPod. I also expect this to happen with the Mac as we?ve already seen this occur with Intel?s latest chips.
It?s funny how the OS seems to be the most compared yet it?s really a pointless metric due to divergent business models, so long as the OS has a large enough user base to be viable.
Devices, not smartphones and not small limites product lineup all using the same components. How many of those 65.3M Samsung phones have 802.11n or Categpry 5 HSUPA or even the same high-end display panel type?
Well as of a month ago they reportedly had sold 1.3 million such devices - the Wave and Galaxy S, after them being on the market for roughly six weeks for the wave and less for the Galaxy. They reportedly anticipate selling 10 m Waves this year. I would imagine they will be selling a lot of Galaxys as well.
I bought one of those Waves and find it superb.
A rather twisted way of thinking. Samsung sold 65.3 m devices vs Apples 8.7 m in the same period.
Then ask yourself, where does a large proportion of the components that make up those 8.7 m come from?
Vertical integration - win, win.
And Staples sold 500 billion paperclips in the same time frame. So what? Why are you comparing Samsung's total sales - including dumb phones that Apple doesn't have an interest in) with Apple's smartphone sales?
except toyota makes a lot more CARS, than the camry.
Just as Apple sells a lot more iDevices than the iPhone.
Yes, the "power and the potential of the cloud" to Google is the opportunity to get their hands on more of your data, further invade your privacy, and add to their e-dossier on you. Why should Apple implement something on iOS that helps Google violate customers privacy? And does anyone really still trust Google after their hypocritical sellout on net neutrality?
The rest of the world is as tin-foil paranoid as you. Get over it.
I'll trade my supposed loss of privacy for the convenience that comes with cloud-device integration.
And it works well with my Mac too. Another bonus.
And Staples sold 500 billion paperclips in the same time frame. So what? Why are you comparing Samsung's total sales - including dumb phones that Apple doesn't have an interest in) with Apple's smartphone sales?
Just as Apple sells a lot more iDevices than the iPhone.
Based on this Android outsold iOS which included the iPad and iPod Touch.
http://www.androidcentral.com/gartne...-androids-huge
FaceTime is gimmickry? How is anyone supposed to take you seriously when you write stupid things like this. And Android's big innovation is cloud services? Wow, that's some innovation there.
Cloud integration is far more innovative than Facetime, essentially another video calling app when it comes down to it. And yes it's gimmicky. Anybody who lacks bias can see it. iPhone 4 to iPhone 4. Only on wifi. How much opportunity is there to actually use it with those kinds of restrictions? That's what makes it a gimmick.
I have several friends who have had iPhone 4s for months now (in the US) and a few weeks here in Canada. I asked around. Not a single one has used Facetime even once. Why? Too much of a hassle to to track down other iPhone 4 users and compel them to find wifi and get a video chat going. Basically, this'll only be handy if you can convince those closest to you to also take up an iPhone 4.
I'll take it more seriously when it's more universal (multi-platform), runs on 3G (so you can video chat with anybody, anytime, anywhere) and has a desktop client (or at least a tie-in to say iChat). Till then, it makes for nice Apple TV spots pushing iPhone 4s to couples in long distance relationships (nice niche market I suppose).
Maybe you are right, maybe Android is the new Windows, and Google is the new Microsoft, and the Android fans are just as clueless as the Windows fans always have been. I do think Android mostly appeals to the same type of person Windows always has.
The problem with people like you is that you can't imagine a world where people use what's best for them. I use a Mac at home, an Android on the go, and I will be getting an iPad (just debating to buy it now or wait for gen 2).
You can see everything in black and white, Microsoft vs. Apple type of situations if you wish. The rest of the world is a little more sophisticated than that and we can see the benefits of different platforms and choose accordingly. For example, tieing an iPad to my unlimited data plan using my Android's wifi hotspot feature. I know that kind of usage is beyond your comprehension. But people actually think like that in the real world. Not everybody wants a second telco bill every month for the mere privilege of being a total Apple fanboy. But hey if you want to tie your technological advancement to one company, good for you. That's not me.
The rest of the world is as tin-foil paranoid as you. Get over it.
I'll trade my supposed loss of privacy for the convenience that comes with cloud-device integration.
And it works well with my Mac too. Another bonus.
Yes, it's tin-foil paranoia not to trust Google, how's that net neutrality pact with Verizon sit with you? pretty happy with that too? You're exactly the sort of mark they are looking for.
Based on this Android outsold iOS which included the iPad and iPod Touch.
http://www.androidcentral.com/gartne...-androids-huge
I debunked that yesterday when you posted that link in this very thread.
What is likely happening is Android is outselling all iOS devices ?now?, but they did not for the last quarter.
Yes, it's tin-foil paranoia not to trust Google, how's that net neutrality pact with Verizon sit with you? pretty happy with that too? You're exactly the sort of mark they are looking for.
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...html?tk=hp_blg
To me, it's not something to get so worked up as you over. It came, it went, and our lives haven't changed for the worse.
They do seem to have some interest in search. I am sure they could use their data centre to power the Siri searches, but those searches are much more narrowly focused than google searches. If you are doing general knowledge or trivia questions, you would use google. If you are looking for a local restaurant or want a taxi, you might use Apple/Siri. It is an encroachment on google's turf, but doesn't seem threatening to me.
+1
I don't think it's easy to topple Google in the search business. But what Apple can probably do well is that Siri kind of stuff. Android's now bringing similar features on stream with the Places app and Voice Search. And Apple should (and probably will) launch some kind of local search feature using Siri.
As far as the cloud goes, I really don't think Apple needs to tackle search to have a solid cloud product that interests consumers. What's attractive about Google's cloud? It's all the stuff like GMail, Calendar, Contacts, (to some extent) Google Talk, etc. This all stuff that Apple could easily match.
The problem here though is Apple's insistence on charging for this stuff. I get why they do it (ad-free). But ultimately, as Android gets better and better on base usability of the device, and feature differentiation starts to matter more, iOS is going to feel like a nickel-and-diming experience to the average consumer. And let's face it, while the average iPhone user is a more premium customer, just as much of that premium factor comes from the fact that they are smartphone users as they are Apple users. And once these consumers start figuring out that things like Navigation, e-mail, photo-sharing are free on Android, it'll only help the migration.
Personally, I think there's a case to be made for Apple to actually position itself as a premium brand (right now they say they are, but their prices say otherwise). Charge more for their handsets than other OEMs but offer ad-free, superb cloud services (MobileMe) for free right out of the box. Who would not pay $300 for an iPhone (on contract) if it included free lifetime MobileMe? As it stands though, if you are a heavy user of Google's services (maps, Gmail, search, news, etc.) why would you choose anything else over an OS optimized to run with those services?
As for navigation, I really think Apple should bite the bullet and acquire TomTom (that pile of cash has to be good for something). iPhone with free TomTom would probably be more compelling than Nokia's navigation or Android with Google Navigation.
I debunked that yesterday when you posted that link in this very thread.
What is likely happening is Android is outselling all iOS devices ?now?, but they did not for the last quarter.
Missed your earlier post. In any case I alway have to laugh at the fanboys that say they could care less about market share until its proven there is no way they can gain the top market share. Even though the past has proven market share has nothing to do with profit.
Yes, it's tin-foil paranoia not to trust Google, how's that net neutrality pact with Verizon sit with you? pretty happy with that too? You're exactly the sort of mark they are looking for.
Living in Canada, where net neutrality is mandated for both wired and wireless internet, I could not care less about what happens in the US. The world is a lot bigger than the USA. And so is the internet.
Besides which, from everything I've read, Google only seems to have cut this deal because your legislators and regulators were lazy and Google was worried that the absolute lack of regulation could actually lead to far worse outcomes.
Just because you have a broken legislative system and useless regulators who can't do their jobs properly, don't assume the rest of the world has those problems too.
The CRTC imposed net neutrality across the board here in Canada months ago. And it didn't take endless telco/ISP/content provider roundtables to do it. They had some industry consultation, some public consultation and ruled on it. I can't believe the FCC is actually trying to negotiate a deal in the US. What's up with that? They are regulator. Why can't they regulate?
Government that works. You guys should try it in that great republic of yours sometime.
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...html?tk=hp_blg
To me, it's not something to get so worked up as you over. It came, it went, and our lives haven't changed for the worse.
I don't want to get mouse nervous or anything but I just drove by and I think I saw Eric Schmidt stilling outside his house.
Missed your earlier post. In any case I alway have to laugh at the fanboys that say they could care less about market share until its proven there is no way they can gain the top market share. Even though the past has proven market share has nothing to do with profit.
I think we all care about it, but it?s just a single metric and means very little in most cases, especially when comparing a freely available OS to one that only comes installed on a single vendor?s OS.
I don?t think anyone who has thought ahead would not expect iOS to be behind Android eventually. I even stated earlier that I fully expect many individual vendors using Android across their devices to surpass Apple?s use of iOS across their devices in a given quarter.
... To me, it's not something to get so worked up as you over. It came, it went, and our lives haven't changed for the worse.
... Besides which, from everything I've read, Google only seems to have cut this deal because your legislators and regulators were lazy and Google was worried that the absolute lack of regulation could actually lead to far worse outcomes. ...
And they call Apple fans kool aid drinkers. You guys are completely delusional or none too bright if you actually believe this nonsense you are parroting. Google and Verizon have teamed up for a full frontal assault on net neutrality, and it will end up affecting you, wherever you live, if they get away with it. Face it, "Do no evil," is officially tossed out the window, even the pretense of it.
I think we all care about it, but it?s just a single metric and means very little in most cases, especially when comparing a freely available OS to one that only comes installed on a single vendor?s OS.
I don?t think anyone who has thought ahead would not expect iOS to be behind Android eventually. I even stated earlier that I fully expect many individual vendors using Android across their devices to surpass Apple?s use of iOS across their devices in a given quarter.
I remember you posting about the Android growth rate a while back but I have to say I didn't expect it to happen this year.
Having experience long term with both operating systems I have to say iOS is far better then Android overall. Which simply tells me what I have said all along most people simply aren't power users and as long as they have their social network apps and email they are more than happy.
The one thing I wish would happen is a 4.3 inch iPhone now that I have become use to that size. I know you like the smaller size but I have really become use to the bigger smartphone.
And they call Apple fans kool aid drinkers. You guys are completely delusional or none too bright if you actually believe this nonsense you are parroting. Google and Verizon have teamed up for a full frontal assault on net neutrality, and it will end up affecting you, wherever you live, if they get away with it. Face it, "Do no evil," is officially tossed out the window, even the pretense of it.
Mouse serious question. You are worried about Google and Verizon when it comes to net neutrality and I agree with you there is certainly something going. However what I don't understand is how you are okay and by the way bash me when I get onto Apple for their total control of content and telling us what we are allowed to view or install on devices we own.
Their Dev user agreement that was totally setup to block Adobe.
When Apple pulls this nonsense you tell everyone its them trying to provide the best user experience when all they are really doing is controlling content for their benefit to get you to buy into their entire ecosystem so they can profit.
Thats what makes Apple fans koolaid drinkers. The double standard.
You are correct in many ways when it comes to Google yet you give Apple a free pass for doing the same thing putting lockdowns and controls on everything to benefit their bottom line.
And they call Apple fans kool aid drinkers. You guys are completely delusional or none too bright if you actually believe this nonsense you are parroting. Google and Verizon have teamed up for a full frontal assault on net neutrality, and it will end up affecting you, wherever you live, if they get away with it. Face it, "Do no evil," is officially tossed out the window, even the pretense of it.
If you're so concerned, then what are you doing here on an Apple internet forum ranting? Shouldn't you be down at your legistator's office yelling and screaming at them? Or maybe outside the FCC with a picket sign?
Don't get me wrong. I, for one, understand what this "deal" could mean for net neutrality. But I'm just not as worked up about it as you are.
I personally see no reason to get my pitchfork and torch out of the closet yet.
The one thing I wish would happen is a 4.3 inch iPhone now that I have become use to that size. I know you like the smaller size but I have really become use to the bigger smartphone.
That Business Insider link I posted previously expects a larger screen iPhone in the 4? area.
You can bet your left ass cheek that the iPhone 5 will have an Evo-sized screen with resolution to match today?s LCD flat screens, accompanied by the opening up of the iPhone to standards-based peripherals, ex. HDMI plugs and USB. The screen size increase is a definite, but peripherals is a maybe. Die hard Apple fans won?t mind that they have to jump through hoops to connect their device, but the rest of the world will lean towards an Android device if they can?t easily use their phone/tablet with existing hardware. Apple sees this as well as I do. I?m sure they?ll find a way to gimp the standard somewhat, but more open is better than less open.
Personally, I don?t see it. If Apple wanted to go that route for the extra room with larger battery they could have done it with the iPhone 4.
They could have still lead the market in display resolution, too. At 4.3? a 960x640 display has a PPI of 268. I think a ?retina display? for people at 20/20 vision at 12? away is 284 ppi or higher.
But they didn?t. They went for a very expensive display and kept it the same size so I have to think they are set on keeping this standard for devs and users. It makes sense.
I don?t recall if these larger display Android phones are simply expanding the UI elements of if the UI has been tailored for the increased display real estate. For instance, is there an extra button in a row or column for these 4.x? displays?