Can someone explain to me what exactly hip-hop is? Is it defined by the beat, the message, the presentation, or what?
On that score, any music classifications beyond the obvious, e.g., rock, country, jazz, rap, classical, etc., confuse me. What are the differences between techno, trance, ambient, electronica, industrial, house, dance, etc. These all seem to blur together to me. Am I the only one confused by this proliferation of music types?
<strong>Nelly? BWAHAHAHA!!!!!!! You cant even classify Nelly as rap....he's pop....when's his next remix with NSTINK gonna be?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I don't even know wht I'm bothering since I don't like Nelly much but....
just because he had a remix with N Sync makes him pop? What about Eminem? He sang with Elton John, does that make Eminem less rap?
p.s. let me tell yawl 'bouts sumpin' rat now, me and groverat, we speak the BED. not 'cuz we want tew, because that's the way and where we wuz raised and we likes it je's fine. we don't call it 'soul food' neither, we call that 'home cookin'.
p.p.s. and i was a punk'r when you was still sucklin' yer mama's teat.
p.p.p.s. pass the cornbread... and i'll take some more okree tew... thank'm.
Nelly sucks. Goo beats. Wack flow. Hell if Nelly can get a record deal maybe I can! Listen to his songs. Nelly is the biggest sell out in the industry.
Bla blah blah....hey guess what, HIP HOP RAP are gonna make me money. Watch it.
<strong>What are the differences between techno, trance, ambient, electronica, industrial, house, dance, etc.</strong><hr></blockquote>
re: the different electronic genres
i can refer you to no greater resource than <a href="http://ishkur.com/features/music/index.htm"; target="_blank">Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music</a>. The larger version is best.
Absolutely stunning work. Lets you understand the different types of music pretty well. You'll soon become a electronica-snob like me...
i can refer you to no greater resource than <a href="http://ishkur.com/features/music/index.htm"; target="_blank">Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music</a>. The larger version is best.
Absolutely stunning work. Lets you understand the different types of music pretty well. You'll soon become a electronica-snob like me...
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Hey look: this is me not caring about the difference between all those techno-ish genres.
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I love electronic music. I'm not a fan of trance and house, but I really love alot of ambient, trip-hop styled chill music...as do I love drum and bass/jungle. but all this stemmed from my original interest in experimental electronic stuff, that pushes the limits of conventional metering.
Yo just let me revel and bask in the fact that I got everyone kissin my ass
Chris Kirkpatrick you can get your ass kicked worse then them little Limp Biscuit bastards and Moby you can get stomped by Obie you 36 yr old bald headed stale homie you dont know me youre too old its over nobody listens to techno!
Well now you're forced to listen to the teacher and the lesson
Class is in session so you can stop guessin
If this is a tape or a written down memo
See I am a professional, this is not a demo
In fact call it a lecture, a visual picture
Sort of a poetic and rhythm-like mixture
Listen, I'm not dissin but there's somethin that you're missin
Maybe you should touch reality, stop wishin
For beats with plenty bass and lyrics said in haste
If this meaning doesn't manifest put it to rest
I am a poet, you try to show it, yet blow it
It takes concentration for fresh communication
Observation, that is to see without speaking
Take off your coat, take notes, I am teachin
a class, or rather school, cause you need schooling
I am not a king or queen, I'm not ruling
This is an introduction to poetry
A small dedication to those that might know of me
They might know of you and maybe your gang
But one thing's for sure, neither one of y'all can hang
Cause yo I'm like a arrow, and Scott is the crossbow
Say something now ... thought so
You seem to be the type that only understand
The annihilation and destruction of the next man
That's not poetry, that is insanity
It's simply fantasy far from reality
Poetry is the language of imagination
Poetry is a form of positive creation
Difficult, isn't it? The point? You're missin it
Your face is in front of my hand so I'm dissin it
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[quote]
Yo just let me revel and bask in the fact that I got everyone kissin my ass
Chris Kirkpatrick you can get your ass kicked worse then them little Limp Biscuit bastards and Moby you can get stomped by Obie you 36 yr old bald headed stale homie you dont know me youre too old its over nobody listens to techno!
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That is weak. Since rap is poetry, that is weak poetry. Plus, you spelled Limp Bizkit wrong.
It is conclusive: Eminem is sugar-coated crap. He probably doesn't write much of the lyrics anymore, and he probably thinks MIDI is some new slang word for a drug.
Later maybe I'll post examples of real rap. Notorious BIG, Bone Thugs, Wycelf Jean and the Fugees etc. are way better. Cuss, do you know what I'm talking about?
TigerWoods99, you usually know what you're talking about, but although Eminem is catchy, so are the Backstreet Boys. For some serious rap or even just fun beats, Notorious BIG, Bone Thugs, Moby, or many others, are better, IMHO.
i liked bone thugs... they got ripe cred. real southern hoods, not some white poseur. plus i like that fast sh!t with style, not some fake-ass accent. but that time has come and gone.
yeah, TigerWoods99, just look at what you're saying for a second. Notorious BIG wrote about being "big" for a reason. It's not image. Eminem is. In hypnotize where Notorious BIG says "I like it when you call me big poppa!" he is making other "big" guys feel more ok about themselves. Now, I'm only 140 pounds (I guess I can identify with Moby being picked on for fitting in a trunk ) Eminem is just another Britney Spears, so what if the music genre is different, and his childhood was. He doesn't write his own music, I have a feeling, and probably gets "help" with the lyrics too. Bone Thugs have real MUSIC behind their rap, they are really gifted.
Limp biscuit is what you get at McDonald's. I know that's what he said, I was just playing. I love most of Eminem's songs, especially on the first CD, but the artist himself, I'd run him over if I saw him.
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On that score, any music classifications beyond the obvious, e.g., rock, country, jazz, rap, classical, etc., confuse me. What are the differences between techno, trance, ambient, electronica, industrial, house, dance, etc. These all seem to blur together to me. Am I the only one confused by this proliferation of music types?
Signed,
One clueless guy
<strong>Nelly? BWAHAHAHA!!!!!!! You cant even classify Nelly as rap....he's pop....when's his next remix with NSTINK gonna be?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I don't even know wht I'm bothering since I don't like Nelly much but....
just because he had a remix with N Sync makes him pop? What about Eminem? He sang with Elton John, does that make Eminem less rap?
fyi,
cuss
p.s. let me tell yawl 'bouts sumpin' rat now, me and groverat, we speak the BED. not 'cuz we want tew, because that's the way and where we wuz raised and we likes it je's fine. we don't call it 'soul food' neither, we call that 'home cookin'.
p.p.s. and i was a punk'r when you was still sucklin' yer mama's teat.
p.p.p.s. pass the cornbread... and i'll take some more okree tew... thank'm.
5% of it is great and will last, and the remaining 95% is excess baggage, and will be quickly forgotten.
Bla blah blah....hey guess what, HIP HOP RAP are gonna make me money. Watch it.
<strong>What are the differences between techno, trance, ambient, electronica, industrial, house, dance, etc.</strong><hr></blockquote>
re: the different electronic genres
i can refer you to no greater resource than <a href="http://ishkur.com/features/music/index.htm"; target="_blank">Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music</a>. The larger version is best.
Absolutely stunning work. Lets you understand the different types of music pretty well. You'll soon become a electronica-snob like me...
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re: the different electronic genres
i can refer you to no greater resource than <a href="http://ishkur.com/features/music/index.htm"; target="_blank">Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music</a>. The larger version is best.
Absolutely stunning work. Lets you understand the different types of music pretty well. You'll soon become a electronica-snob like me...
[ 05-14-2002: Message edited by: Jonathan ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
Hey look: this is me not caring about the difference between all those techno-ish genres.
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Hey look: this is me not caring about the difference between all those techno-ish genres.
[ 05-14-2002: Message edited by: Exercise in Frivolity ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
wouldn't it show greater disinterest and indifferent feelings if you just didn't waste 2kb of bandwidth to tell us about it?
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Hey look: this is me not caring about the difference between all those techno-ish genres.
[ 05-14-2002: Message edited by: Exercise in Frivolity ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
Hey look: this is you being a closed-minded jackass!
And really, who are you that we care what you think?
though I'm not the first king of controversy
I am the worst thing since Elvis Presley
to do black music so selfishly
and use it to get myself wealthy
Very funny, very true.
cuss
elvis....died
Chris Kirkpatrick you can get your ass kicked worse then them little Limp Biscuit bastards and Moby you can get stomped by Obie you 36 yr old bald headed stale homie you dont know me youre too old its over nobody listens to techno!
Well now you're forced to listen to the teacher and the lesson
Class is in session so you can stop guessin
If this is a tape or a written down memo
See I am a professional, this is not a demo
In fact call it a lecture, a visual picture
Sort of a poetic and rhythm-like mixture
Listen, I'm not dissin but there's somethin that you're missin
Maybe you should touch reality, stop wishin
For beats with plenty bass and lyrics said in haste
If this meaning doesn't manifest put it to rest
I am a poet, you try to show it, yet blow it
It takes concentration for fresh communication
Observation, that is to see without speaking
Take off your coat, take notes, I am teachin
a class, or rather school, cause you need schooling
I am not a king or queen, I'm not ruling
This is an introduction to poetry
A small dedication to those that might know of me
They might know of you and maybe your gang
But one thing's for sure, neither one of y'all can hang
Cause yo I'm like a arrow, and Scott is the crossbow
Say something now ... thought so
You seem to be the type that only understand
The annihilation and destruction of the next man
That's not poetry, that is insanity
It's simply fantasy far from reality
Poetry is the language of imagination
Poetry is a form of positive creation
Difficult, isn't it? The point? You're missin it
Your face is in front of my hand so I'm dissin it
<hr></blockquote>
and
[quote]
Yo just let me revel and bask in the fact that I got everyone kissin my ass
Chris Kirkpatrick you can get your ass kicked worse then them little Limp Biscuit bastards and Moby you can get stomped by Obie you 36 yr old bald headed stale homie you dont know me youre too old its over nobody listens to techno!
<hr></blockquote>
That is weak. Since rap is poetry, that is weak poetry. Plus, you spelled Limp Bizkit wrong.
It is conclusive: Eminem is sugar-coated crap. He probably doesn't write much of the lyrics anymore, and he probably thinks MIDI is some new slang word for a drug.
Later maybe I'll post examples of real rap. Notorious BIG, Bone Thugs, Wycelf Jean and the Fugees etc. are way better. Cuss, do you know what I'm talking about?
TigerWoods99, you usually know what you're talking about, but although Eminem is catchy, so are the Backstreet Boys. For some serious rap or even just fun beats, Notorious BIG, Bone Thugs, Moby, or many others, are better, IMHO.
Actually, he says
"36-year-old baldheaded fag, blow me"
Aquatik:
I think you're high on MIDI.
Sugar-coated?? <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
Not writing his own lyrics?? <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
I sound too much like an Eminem fan, yikes.
time to move on,
cuss
Notorious BIG? Wow, you must be into the whole bad Boy thing. Yeah, he was pretty BIG alright. That's about all I have to say as far as that goes.
As far as rappers being poets, Id say Tupac Shakur was. he wrote a book of poems which are actually very good.
little cuss: If Eminem wrote a rap about you, he'd probably talk about Viagra, because thats what you need nowadays.
Where is Bone from btw? E. 99th & St Clair! They put it down for C-Town.
What's southern about Bone? I didnt know I lived in the south.
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let's take it out to the golf course.
you need sum mad schoolin',
cuss
p.s. viagra? sure little boy... rock it up and i'll smoke it, then i'll commence'd t'wearin' yer girlfriend slash model like a hat.
Limp biscuit is what you get at McDonald's. I know that's what he said, I was just playing. I love most of Eminem's songs, especially on the first CD, but the artist himself, I'd run him over if I saw him.