Digg founder says Apple iTV launch in September will 'change everything'

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  • Reply 41 of 258
    wurm5150wurm5150 Posts: 763member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by grking View Post


    What new industry did SJ create?



    Personal computers existed before the Mac

    Flash based music players existed with the iPod

    Cell phones existed before the iPhone

    Tablets existed before the iPad

    App stores existed before iTunes



    So what new industry dud SJ create that did no exist before



    He said market not industry.. Just coz a certain device exist doesn't mean there's a market for it.
  • Reply 42 of 258
    29922992 Posts: 202member
    every time every each iWhatever will change everything. Gimme a brake now...
  • Reply 43 of 258
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by grking View Post


    What new industry did SJ create?

    .......

    So what new industry dud SJ create that did no exist before



    A whole industry of Apple-haters who are not very good at spelling, perhaps?
  • Reply 44 of 258
    bwikbwik Posts: 556member
    The bumbling Steve Jobs is about to make another irrelevant product! Beleaguered Apple of Cupertino, CA is not even windows OS/2 compatible!
  • Reply 45 of 258
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 2992 View Post


    every time every each iWhatever will change everything. Gimme a brake now...



    See, what did I tell you?
  • Reply 46 of 258
    I guess its only right to be unbiased and grab all kinds of news from any blog/site but sometimes it seems more than obvious that some people/sources are only sometimes correct because of coincidence. For example, he was right about copy n paste but so were many people. Many were anticipating it. However, this guy also claims the 3G would have a front camera and that iTV will allow...viewing other angles of football on the iPad? that sounds like the dumbest idea I've heard. I don't know about you, but I like havin to look down from my big TV to a smaller screen to check some extraneous angle on football.

    This guy is nothing more than some other guy who claims to know stuff. Why is AI posting this?!?
  • Reply 47 of 258
    bwikbwik Posts: 556member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Cinemagic View Post


    I do believe that the future will be Internet TV. But I also believe the time is not now or nor in the next 10 years. .....But time will tell who's right.



    Is it really so hard to believe that people want a better organized TV interface.....



    They said the same about phone interfaces..... It's fine, what can Apple add....



    (etc)
  • Reply 48 of 258
    29922992 Posts: 202member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post


    See, what did I tell you?



    ok, you are right. Maybe next time I shall push F7 to... oups, I've forgot, I don't have that option anymore...



    Now, is your CC ready for a new iSomething already, so that industry can grow bigger?



    Really, that "changing everything" thing is already worn out...
  • Reply 49 of 258
    robin huberrobin huber Posts: 3,224member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by grking View Post


    What new industry did SJ create?



    Personal computers existed before the Mac

    Flash based music players existed with the iPod

    Cell phones existed before the iPhone

    Tablets existed before the iPad

    App stores existed before iTunes



    So what new industry dud SJ create that did no exist before



    Are you even aware of what an ignorant response this is? Let me count the ways:



    1) Computers before the Apple and Mac were geek toys.

    2) He didn't start with flash, he started with a hard drive. The iPod owned the space before flash was added.

    3) The iPhone is not relevant as a phone, it is a smartphone. Again, the RIMs of the world were great for businesses, for Mom and the rest of us? Not so much.

    4) I think iPad outsold the cumulative sales of all those laptops without hinges in the first day. Why is that do you think?

    5) Online bookstores existed before Amazon, and Search Engines before Google, and cars before Ford. Get the point?



    There is more to creating a new industry than being the first one to get a product up and running. In truth, very few revolutionary and dominant products appeared sui generis.



    If you're going to challenge and be critical, at least do it intelligently.
  • Reply 50 of 258
    str1f3str1f3 Posts: 573member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by geofflee21 View Post


    I guess its only right to be unbiased and grab all kinds of news from any blog/site but sometimes it seems more than obvious that some people/sources are only sometimes correct because of coincidence. For example, he was right about copy n paste but so were many people. Many were anticipating it. However, this guy also claims the 3G would have a front camera and that iTV will allow...viewing other angles of football on the iPad? that sounds like the dumbest idea I've heard. I don't know about you, but I like havin to look down from my big TV to a smaller screen to check some extraneous angle on football.

    This guy is nothing more than some other guy who claims to know stuff. Why is AI posting this?!?



    Why does Kevin Rose matter?



    -he is the CEO and creator of Digg (though I'm not a fan of the crowd it attracts)

    -he "predicted" the release of the iPod nano and features of subsequent models

    -while he got the original iPhone sizes right, he also got the two batteries wrong and confirmed the iPhone existed which at the time was just a rumor because Jobs went to extreme ends to keep it a secret.

    -"predicted" that there were some new visualizations in iTunes



    I don't know if Rose deserves a post on AI or Techmeme but does have some sources in Apple. He will always get a second look because there are a bunch of kids who worship him.
  • Reply 51 of 258
    robin huberrobin huber Posts: 3,224member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 2992 View Post


    ok, you are right. Maybe next time I shall push F7 to... oups, I've forgot, I don't have that option anymore...



    Now, is your CC ready for a new iSomething already, so that industry can grow bigger?



    Really, that "changing everything" thing is already worn out...



    My stock position is swollen with the profit that people like you who continuously bet against Apple have made possible. Thank you, and keep up the good work.
  • Reply 52 of 258
    sendmesendme Posts: 567member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Cinemagic View Post




    iTV is simply an iTunes pay per view (or subscription) box.






    But that sounds GREAT! All you pay for is what you watch, anytime/everytime that you watch. Don't use it? DON'T PAY!



    And all the content anybody could possibly want, minus all the porn channels that nobody wants intruding into their homes anyways.



    I think that cable is dead dead dead and that Apple will remake yet another industry from the bottom up. What is it now? The Music Industry. The Magazine Industry. The Advertising Industry. The Computer Industry. The Music Player Industry. The Portable Device Industry. The Book Publishing Industry. The Cell Phone Industry.



    And now The Television Industry. A La Carte, Baby!!! Steve is, as usual, showing us the light.
  • Reply 53 of 258
    str1f3str1f3 Posts: 573member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lostkiwi View Post


    Maybe this has something to do with the famous Google-Verizon proposal.

    In that deal Google got free rein on the wired Internet (for the GoogleTV) but threw the wireless to the wolves in terms of neutrality.

    I know everyone thinks wireless is where everyone is heading, but if Google can get their hooks into advertising for the TV content people watch they would have a jackpot on their hands.

    Imagine that, theoretically they have all your emails, IM's, texts and wireless searching info from Android AND everything you watch/do on wired TV and home Internet use. That's quite a lot of power there for a company whose business is... well YOUR business.



    For people that say, well Apple is the same, I would reply that Apple is interested in selling you hardware for a profit, not selling your info for a profit.



    Google will have an extremely hard time initially and companies will favor Apple more even though they dislike Apple as well.



    Companies hate Google because of their attitude to the way Google news is handled and the belief that Google unnecessarily links to pirated content of movies, books& TV shows. They will trust Apple more because iOS have shown the willingness to pay for content unlike Android users who expect everything for free.
  • Reply 54 of 258
    sendmesendme Posts: 567member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by aplnub View Post


    What is the chance that existing AppleTV owners get the software update?





    Steve wants you to have the best possible User Experience, so if the new one has an A4 processor, you probably wouldn't be allowed to download the update, because then you wouldn't know how much better the new one is. Otherwise, you would suffer and blame Apple instead of having the best User Experience. They don't want to pay for Apple Care time for people with old hardware who would complain to them.
  • Reply 55 of 258
    alandailalandail Posts: 678member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by grking View Post


    What new industry did SJ create?



    Personal computers existed before the Mac

    Flash based music players existed with the iPod

    Cell phones existed before the iPhone

    Tablets existed before the iPad

    App stores existed before iTunes



    So what new industry dud SJ create that did no exist before



    the frist personal computer was the Apple 1
  • Reply 56 of 258
    sendmesendme Posts: 567member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by NomadMac View Post


    Maybe you ought to start your own company since you obviously are much more savvy than Steve at creating new markets, industries and products.



    Maybe? Unless he has formed a multi-billion dollar international conglomerate which changes the whole world in multiple profound ways, he has absolutely no right to say anything bad about Steve.



    Nothing bad. Not from him.
  • Reply 57 of 258
    rtm135rtm135 Posts: 310member
    I have a PC running Windows 7 Media Center in my basement which connects to several XBOX 360s that serve as extenders. The result is live and recorded TV on every screen in my house for the cost of a cable bill and a cheap homebuilt PC. It's over 95% reliable and beats the pants off any DVR solution offered currently by cable or satellite.



    To compete with this and "change everything", Apple will need to do ONE the following:



    (1) Recording support via CableCard or Tru2Way

    (2) Free Internet TV (ala HULU) which they can monetize with iAds.



    If they offered both, it would be a glad slam, since more choices are always better than less.



    It all comes down to economics. As long as there is free TV over the airwaves, people won't go the itunes route (pay for individual episodes or seasons) since they would end up paying more than their average cable or satellite bill.



    Properly executed, Apple could kill the DVR and Cable/Satellite industries in one fell swoop. I can't wait to see how this plays out, because Internet-based television is clearly the future. Question is, who's going to own it: Apple, Google, M$?
  • Reply 58 of 258
    This just seems like he got info from a load of different sources that have been banging on about this for week, and then blogged about it to gain attention. This style of cheep news should be branded as vapour, just rehashed rumours from other news sites.



    "Like the iPhone and iPad, Apple's new iTV will have access to the App Store where users will be able to download software to run on their device" Sorry what about the iPod Touch?



    "With Apple's iAds, content producers (eg. ABC/NBC/etc.) can directly monetize and distribute their content," he said. "This will eventually destroy the television side of the cable and satellite industry, as your only requirement to access these on-demand stations will be an internet connection. Say goodbye to your monthly cable bill." Again this is just hype and speculation from other sources, it's also highly unlikely due to the TV/Movie industries fear of Apple.



    "The Web entrepreneur also said the new iTV will turn Apple's iPad into a remote control, as the "preferred input device" for the set top box. The iPad will also allow users to edit videos, control games, and "extend the interactive television experience," he said. He gave an example of watching football while viewing other camera angles on the iPad." Great, where's the remote gone, oh little Jonny has taken it, hmmm now what do we do????



  • Reply 59 of 258
    sendmesendme Posts: 567member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 8CoreWhore View Post


    If I can subscribe to just the networks I like for less money I'm golden.





    Less money is beside the point. It is likely to be significantly more expensive, but it will be worth every penny because it will be so great.
  • Reply 60 of 258
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jav1231 View Post


    I've always said without the ability to record TV or other shows AppleTV wasn't very compelling. TiVo was/is far more so. Don't get me wrong, I think the AppleTV is cool as a distribution unit for the price it really should have had recording ability.



    So then, write an iTV app that records whatever it is that you want, saves it to some secure place for future playback, and is a pleasure to use, for 9.99, and you've provided a solution that others like yourself might take advantage of.

    Do it right and you could make hundreds of dollars!

    JB
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