A nice idea but there are just so many things wrong with it. For a start people sit with the keyboard at the right hight for typing and the screen level with their eyes, when this thing moves down it will be in the wrong place for anything making you probably have to stand up.
Also I think it completely misses the point of touch. Touch shouldn't be a replacement for a keyboard and mouse, it should just do taks better. E.g....
1. Imagine using a MacBook while sitting on the sofa. Any sort of dragging would make sense to just touch the screen rather than a trackpad.
2. In a work environment I constantly find when you working with someone on a computer one person has to do all the clicking as there's only one mouse. But as I can reach the screen it would make sense if I could click something by touching it.
As good as Apple is with touch, and with the iPad but an unexpected hit, it just seems touch desktop isn't good for the mainstream. touch mobile devices make sense, but i dont know. Just me tho...
Reading all these reactions, I'm getting pretty sure that this is not an iMac, but an iPad with a built in ultra thin stand made of this super strong metal Apple licenced lately.
Liquid metal. They *own* the company and it is Apple who may license it out. Probably not, though. It is my opinion that they'll keep it all to themselves.
I predict the ipad with only wifi will be discontinued and eventually the macbook and the macbook pros will go ipad-esque in a few years with the lower end ipads with 3g/wifi still on the side. I also believe Apple is building OSX to be 100% fingerable.
I just got the ipad 16 gig wifi/3g and it is freaking awesome! And Pages for ipad is brilliant.
I'm glad Apple doesn't rely on MS like the rest of that crap out there to float their boat.
Oh and has anyone taken pictures with their iphone 4 and then emailed them to yourself and opened them on ipad? The quality is breath taking.
I can't wait to get Keynote and Numbers for ipad this weekend when I get some extra cash. Oh sh****!!!!
I can see iMac used in stores for customers to browse and search content without having to have a physical keyboard, but for personal use, this is quite pointless. I definitely would never even consider one.
Now if the notebook had detachable screen that talks to the "base" station part through WiFi and you still have access to the rest of the computer, but only have light portable screen/input device portion with you (really an iPad that runs full OS X and has file system), then I could see more users wanting that (even though not me personally).
Boy, i can't wait to hold my arms a foot in the air and not be able to see what I am doing!
Actually the posts about other uses is correct. Steve said it and It's practically carved in stone: There will always be MAC Pro type Apple towers with extended keyboards so we can get our work done. Someone has to write software for the devices.
POS is the most logical use. The pizza place across the street uses a proprietary touch screen to take orders. Works great for them. An Apple version would be customizable to any industry.
I remember being loudly denounced when I had the temerity to suggest a touch based OSX was possible, in the time when the iSlate was just a rumour. So this looks interesting.
I never did, and still don't, get why people say OSX is not optimised for touch and never could be, yet Apple make products like the MB Pro and now the stand alone trackpad. Does everyone but me buy and use a mouse with their MBP?
The trackpad is just a touch sensitive surface. If it were relocated to the screen, why do people instantly assume it would necessarily have a greatly reduced resolution or utility? Of course no one at Apple would be capable of coming up with a virtual keyboard that appears as a screen overlay when required, just couldn't possibly be done.
No thanks. I like the iMac the way it is. The trackpad makes a touchscreen unnecessary.
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Ick
Not wanted, not needed. Keep the iOS out of my Mac.
How shortsighted.
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Why not just have both modes active all the time? Why do I have to lay the monitor down to be able to touch it?
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I think that it would be frustrating to be doing something and you move the screen just a bit and the mouse and keyboard don't work all of a sudden, etc.
What? did you read the freaking patent at all? Or are you looking for a excuse to say it won't work?
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If both modes are always active, this is the same as any touch screen PCs on the market already.
Exactly. And they are horrible. That's why Apple isn't doing it that way.
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Maybe Apple will implement a system as intuitive and efficient as the MS OneNote/Hp TouchSmart combo.
We'll See...
I know you aren't being sarcastic, but pretending so makes this sound much funnier.
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The hand in this patent filing looks very familiar:
Reminds me of the original iPhone ad with the screen glowing on the dark.
Still, I don?t see much consumer use without some killer apps....
It would be nice if iOS was the replacement for Dashboard. Quick, easy F12 into iOS, no matter screen position. F12 out. iOS has the killer apps already, Dashboard is a waste of resources and time (my opinion of course, since I rarely use it.)
Why not just have both modes active all the time? Why do I have to lay the monitor down to be able to touch it?
I think that it would be frustrating to be doing something and you move the screen just a bit and the mouse and keyboard don't work all of a sudden, etc.
If both modes are always active, this is the same as any touch screen PCs on the market already.
Yes and the touch screen PCs on the market already have been a smashing success too.
It would be nice if iOS was the replacement for Dashboard. Quick, easy F12 into iOS, no matter screen position. F12 out. iOS has the killer apps already, Dashboard is a waste of resources and time (my opinion of course, since I rarely use it.)
I can see Cocoa Touch being used for Dashboard widgets on a desktop like that, but I don?t see it being a 1:1 crossover from current App Store apps to Dashboard. I think there are just too many variances. For instance, if I?m not confined to the iPhone?s screen size I?d like the scientific calculator (an app that would benefit greatly from finger input over a mouse or keyboard) to be larger.SAme goes for other apps.
As for Dashboard itself, I still have plenty of uses for it as the concept is fast and efficient for quick glance information, which is why I was annoyed that it didn?t get an overhaul for Snow Leopard. In fact, I?d say it?s slightly more buggy than in Leopard with widgets losing their placement from time to time.
As well as finger input this would be excellent if it supported a stylus in the same way a Wacom tablet does (with pressure sensitivity). It would then be perfect for Photoshop and other design work.
As well as finger input this would be excellent if it supported a stylus in the same way a Wacom tablet does (with pressure sensitivity). It would then be perfect for Photoshop and other design work.
I don?t think I?ve seen any display-based technology that can be as accurate as Wacom or other input-only panels. I think it might be a result of the touch panel needing to not interfere with the display panel below it, but that is just my assumption.
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Also I think it completely misses the point of touch. Touch shouldn't be a replacement for a keyboard and mouse, it should just do taks better. E.g....
1. Imagine using a MacBook while sitting on the sofa. Any sort of dragging would make sense to just touch the screen rather than a trackpad.
2. In a work environment I constantly find when you working with someone on a computer one person has to do all the clicking as there's only one mouse. But as I can reach the screen it would make sense if I could click something by touching it.
As good as Apple is with touch, and with the iPad but an unexpected hit, it just seems touch desktop isn't good for the mainstream. touch mobile devices make sense, but i dont know. Just me tho...
Edit: And for Retail, why not use an iPad? It's not like retail would bring a 1Ghz ARM to its knees...
We're not all in primary school. Some of us have jobs to do with our Macs.
We're not all in primary school. Some of us have jobs to do with our Macs.
...you mean like...work? My iMac is all about fun and games dude...
I just got the ipad 16 gig wifi/3g and it is freaking awesome! And Pages for ipad is brilliant.
I'm glad Apple doesn't rely on MS like the rest of that crap out there to float their boat.
Oh and has anyone taken pictures with their iphone 4 and then emailed them to yourself and opened them on ipad? The quality is breath taking.
I can't wait to get Keynote and Numbers for ipad this weekend when I get some extra cash. Oh sh****!!!!
Now if the notebook had detachable screen that talks to the "base" station part through WiFi and you still have access to the rest of the computer, but only have light portable screen/input device portion with you (really an iPad that runs full OS X and has file system), then I could see more users wanting that (even though not me personally).
Ick
Not wanted, not needed. Keep the iOS out of my Mac.
yeah keep the future away from my life.
Actually the posts about other uses is correct. Steve said it and It's practically carved in stone: There will always be MAC Pro type Apple towers with extended keyboards so we can get our work done. Someone has to write software for the devices.
POS is the most logical use. The pizza place across the street uses a proprietary touch screen to take orders. Works great for them. An Apple version would be customizable to any industry.
I never did, and still don't, get why people say OSX is not optimised for touch and never could be, yet Apple make products like the MB Pro and now the stand alone trackpad. Does everyone but me buy and use a mouse with their MBP?
The trackpad is just a touch sensitive surface. If it were relocated to the screen, why do people instantly assume it would necessarily have a greatly reduced resolution or utility? Of course no one at Apple would be capable of coming up with a virtual keyboard that appears as a screen overlay when required, just couldn't possibly be done.
No thanks. I like the iMac the way it is. The trackpad makes a touchscreen unnecessary.
Ick
Not wanted, not needed. Keep the iOS out of my Mac.
How shortsighted.
Why not just have both modes active all the time? Why do I have to lay the monitor down to be able to touch it?
I think that it would be frustrating to be doing something and you move the screen just a bit and the mouse and keyboard don't work all of a sudden, etc.
What? did you read the freaking patent at all? Or are you looking for a excuse to say it won't work?
If both modes are always active, this is the same as any touch screen PCs on the market already.
Exactly. And they are horrible. That's why Apple isn't doing it that way.
Maybe Apple will implement a system as intuitive and efficient as the MS OneNote/Hp TouchSmart combo.
We'll See...
I know you aren't being sarcastic, but pretending so makes this sound much funnier.
The hand in this patent filing looks very familiar:
Reminds me of the original iPhone ad with the screen glowing on the dark.
The reviews of the HP TouchSmart machines have been horrid.
OneNote intuitive? Are you sure? I uninstalled it almost right away when I saw the UI.
I believe DaHarder was being sarcastic.
"Intuitive" and "efficient" are characteristics not usually associated with MS.
Still, I don?t see much consumer use without some killer apps....
It would be nice if iOS was the replacement for Dashboard. Quick, easy F12 into iOS, no matter screen position. F12 out. iOS has the killer apps already, Dashboard is a waste of resources and time (my opinion of course, since I rarely use it.)
Why not just have both modes active all the time? Why do I have to lay the monitor down to be able to touch it?
I think that it would be frustrating to be doing something and you move the screen just a bit and the mouse and keyboard don't work all of a sudden, etc.
If both modes are always active, this is the same as any touch screen PCs on the market already.
Yes and the touch screen PCs on the market already have been a smashing success too.
It would be nice if iOS was the replacement for Dashboard. Quick, easy F12 into iOS, no matter screen position. F12 out. iOS has the killer apps already, Dashboard is a waste of resources and time (my opinion of course, since I rarely use it.)
I can see Cocoa Touch being used for Dashboard widgets on a desktop like that, but I don?t see it being a 1:1 crossover from current App Store apps to Dashboard. I think there are just too many variances. For instance, if I?m not confined to the iPhone?s screen size I?d like the scientific calculator (an app that would benefit greatly from finger input over a mouse or keyboard) to be larger.SAme goes for other apps.
As for Dashboard itself, I still have plenty of uses for it as the concept is fast and efficient for quick glance information, which is why I was annoyed that it didn?t get an overhaul for Snow Leopard. In fact, I?d say it?s slightly more buggy than in Leopard with widgets losing their placement from time to time.
As well as finger input this would be excellent if it supported a stylus in the same way a Wacom tablet does (with pressure sensitivity). It would then be perfect for Photoshop and other design work.
I don?t think I?ve seen any display-based technology that can be as accurate as Wacom or other input-only panels. I think it might be a result of the touch panel needing to not interfere with the display panel below it, but that is just my assumption.