You are bizarre. I know plenty of Yankee fans who are pumped about this series. (Where I live is pretty much the dividing line between Red Sox country and Yankee country.) A Yankee fan at work was going on for about 10 minutes the day before yesterday. I'm psyched too but I was trying to get my butt out the door. He kept going on about Soriano and Pedro and that damn playoff game in '78... And you can bet there'll be plenty of Yankee fans at Fenway this weekend. There always are.</strong><hr></blockquote>
uh.. any "fan" that lives near the border of "yankee-red sox" territory is not a fan.
and yea people get excited. mostly middle aged and 20 year old alcoholics who can amuse themselves for 4 days straight wearing Yankee or Red Sox suck shirts and screaming there red heads off.
[quote]Gee applenut, I seem to remember you getting excited about a game you went to at Fenway where there was nearly a perfect game. You weren't 'yawning' over the rivalry then. <hr></blockquote>
uh... I was rooting for Boston that game because David Cone was pitching. He's my favorite pitcher and has been for years. Poor argument bringing that game up.
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Plus, it sounds to me that you NY fans are a little depressed that no matter how much your team has won this year, they still haven't caught the Red Sox.<hr></blockquote>
excuse me? we cut the lead you had on us by several games in a week.
2 games out in May. wow. that's really "no matter how much your team has won, they can't catch us". After playing 2 months of baseball?
get real. the season is no where near the half way point and you make it seem like it's almost playoff time and the Yanks haven't caught up to them all year.
[quote]Plus, you can't stand that your team lost the World Series last year and that your team is no longer the best.<hr></blockquote>
what? I"m supposed to be happy they lost the world series
you're team has never been the best. I think you can't stand that and you know it. so instead you just resort to the usual arguments so that you convince yourself.
Yeah, right. I have to move to Boston to be a fan. Grasping at straws there, applenut.</strong><hr></blockquote>
me? lol. you tried to argue my statement that red Sox fans make a bigger deal out of the rivalry by saying your friend in CT is making a big deal out of it and he's a Yankee fan. great one guy. one guy no where near the Yankee fan base. completely out of the loop. He's probably one of the fools who drives 4.5 hours to a Yankee game on a sunday and pays 400 bucks for main boxes and then goes home and thinks he is a Yankee bigshot. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
Connecticut Yankee fans. I wonder if they know they are hated
me? lol. you tried to argue my statement that red Sox fans make a bigger deal out of the rivalry by saying your friend in CT is making a big deal out of it and he's a Yankee fan. great one guy. </strong><hr></blockquote>
Not one guy. There are 4 or 5 Yankee fans in my department. (The department has less than 20 in it.) I talked about this guy because it just happened to me the other morning.
[quote]<strong>Connecticut Yankee fans. I wonder if they know they are hated </strong><hr></blockquote>
<strong>Dude, just so you know, highest payrolls in the AL go in this order:
1.) New York Yankees
2.) Seattle Mariners
3.) Boston Red Sox</strong><hr></blockquote>
That's the order for where those 3 rank based on revenues. The Mariners have a very lucrative local TV contract and they have a larger stadium with more luxury boxes and modern amenities and such that allow them to rake in the cash. On the other hand, they also have large debt payments on Safeco which the Red Sox don't have. Thus the Red Sox have a signicantly higher payroll than the Mariners. The Rangers also have a higher payroll than the Mariners.
Going off of opening day rosters the estimated payrolls are:
Yankees: $125,928,583
Red Sox: $108,366,060
Rangers: $105,726,122
Mariners: $80,282,668
Indians: $78,909,449
Blue Jays: $76,864,333
Angels: $61,721,667
Orioles: $60,493,487
White Sox: $57,052,833
Tigers: $55,048,000
Royals: $47,257,000
Twins: $40,225,000
A's: $40,004,167
Devil Rays: $34,380,000
That $28,000,000 difference between the Mariners and the Red Sox is about the same as the combined salaries of Manny Ramirez and Pedro Martinez. Take them off of the Red Sox and they would have roughly the same payroll as the Mariners.
The $45,000,000 difference between the Yankees and Mariners is roughly equivalent to the combined salaries of Bernie Williams, Mike Mussina, Jason Giambi and Roger Clemens. Or if you want to think of it another way, if the Yankees were to release most of their pitchers, Wells, Clemens, Mussina, Pettite, Hitch****, El Duque, Lilly, and Mendoza then their payroll would be equivalent to the Mariners'. If you want to think of it in terms of additions rather than subtractions, if the Mariners added Randy Johnson, ARod and Griffey back again their payroll would still be slightly less than the Yankees.
The difference between the Red Sox and Yankees' payrolls would be about the same as Jeter's and Mendoza's salaries.
So the difference in payrolls between the Yankees and to a lesser extent the Red Sox and some of their better funded competitors like the Mariners and Indians is still big enough that it allows them to afford a huge amount of talent.
... So the difference in payrolls between the Yankees and to a lesser extent the Red Sox and some of their better funded competitors like the Mariners and Indians is still big enough that it allows them to afford a huge amount of talent.</strong><hr></blockquote>
[quote]I hope the Yankees get swept to get your ****ing hopes up at all-time levels just so that they can drop back down to hell when the Red Sox choke in October<hr></blockquote>
<strong>The Red Sox win the first game of this series 3-1.
Pedro pitched very well. </strong><hr></blockquote>
Indeed he did. The best part was when Posada was called out on strikes after failing to check his swing, and stood there in denial for about a minute. By the time he trudged back to the dugout, the third-base stands were worked into a frenzy of booing and mock-cheering.
And a guy ran onto the field, and actually made it (barely) to touch home plate. He got a well-deserved standing ovation.
All in all, a great night to be a Sox fan <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
[quote]May 24, 2002 -- BOSTON - Sure, these Yankee-Red Sox games do not matter to the participants.
It was probably just a scheduling glitch that resulted in the Yankees having a playoff-like contingent of three advanced scouts - Chuck Cottier, Wade Taylor and Gene Michael - at Fenway before this four-game series...<hr></blockquote>
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You are bizarre. I know plenty of Yankee fans who are pumped about this series. (Where I live is pretty much the dividing line between Red Sox country and Yankee country.) A Yankee fan at work was going on for about 10 minutes the day before yesterday. I'm psyched too but I was trying to get my butt out the door.
uh.. any "fan" that lives near the border of "yankee-red sox" territory is not a fan.
and yea people get excited. mostly middle aged and 20 year old alcoholics who can amuse themselves for 4 days straight wearing Yankee or Red Sox suck shirts and screaming there red heads off.
[quote]Gee applenut, I seem to remember you getting excited about a game you went to at Fenway where there was nearly a perfect game. You weren't 'yawning' over the rivalry then. <hr></blockquote>
uh... I was rooting for Boston that game because David Cone was pitching. He's my favorite pitcher and has been for years. Poor argument bringing that game up.
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Plus, it sounds to me that you NY fans are a little depressed that no matter how much your team has won this year, they still haven't caught the Red Sox.<hr></blockquote>
excuse me? we cut the lead you had on us by several games in a week.
2 games out in May. wow. that's really "no matter how much your team has won, they can't catch us". After playing 2 months of baseball?
get real. the season is no where near the half way point and you make it seem like it's almost playoff time and the Yanks haven't caught up to them all year.
[quote]Plus, you can't stand that your team lost the World Series last year and that your team is no longer the best.<hr></blockquote>
what? I"m supposed to be happy they lost the world series
you're team has never been the best. I think you can't stand that and you know it. so instead you just resort to the usual arguments so that you convince yourself.
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YANKEES SUCK. RED SOX SUCK. YANKEES SUCK. RED SOX SUCK.
I think that's all that needs to be said here.
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uh.. any "fan" that lives near the border of "yankee-red sox" territory is not a fan.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah, right. I have to move to Boston to be a fan. Grasping at straws there, applenut.
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Yeah, right. I have to move to Boston to be a fan. Grasping at straws there, applenut.</strong><hr></blockquote>
me? lol. you tried to argue my statement that red Sox fans make a bigger deal out of the rivalry by saying your friend in CT is making a big deal out of it and he's a Yankee fan. great one guy. one guy no where near the Yankee fan base. completely out of the loop. He's probably one of the fools who drives 4.5 hours to a Yankee game on a sunday and pays 400 bucks for main boxes and then goes home and thinks he is a Yankee bigshot. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
Connecticut Yankee fans. I wonder if they know they are hated
<strong>Hehe. Looks like a struck a nerve.
That's a great song. Listening to it right now.
Bad Religion - Struck a Nerve
<strong>Hehe. Looks like a struck a nerve.
wouldn't be a fran/applenut thread if there weren't an argument
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me? lol. you tried to argue my statement that red Sox fans make a bigger deal out of the rivalry by saying your friend in CT is making a big deal out of it and he's a Yankee fan. great one guy. </strong><hr></blockquote>
Not one guy. There are 4 or 5 Yankee fans in my department. (The department has less than 20 in it.) I talked about this guy because it just happened to me the other morning.
[quote]<strong>Connecticut Yankee fans. I wonder if they know they are hated
I'll be sure to pass this along.
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wouldn't be a fran/applenut thread if there weren't an argument
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> So true.
<strong>Dude, just so you know, highest payrolls in the AL go in this order:
1.) New York Yankees
2.) Seattle Mariners
3.) Boston Red Sox</strong><hr></blockquote>
That's the order for where those 3 rank based on revenues. The Mariners have a very lucrative local TV contract and they have a larger stadium with more luxury boxes and modern amenities and such that allow them to rake in the cash. On the other hand, they also have large debt payments on Safeco which the Red Sox don't have. Thus the Red Sox have a signicantly higher payroll than the Mariners. The Rangers also have a higher payroll than the Mariners.
Going off of opening day rosters the estimated payrolls are:
Yankees: $125,928,583
Red Sox: $108,366,060
Rangers: $105,726,122
Mariners: $80,282,668
Indians: $78,909,449
Blue Jays: $76,864,333
Angels: $61,721,667
Orioles: $60,493,487
White Sox: $57,052,833
Tigers: $55,048,000
Royals: $47,257,000
Twins: $40,225,000
A's: $40,004,167
Devil Rays: $34,380,000
That $28,000,000 difference between the Mariners and the Red Sox is about the same as the combined salaries of Manny Ramirez and Pedro Martinez. Take them off of the Red Sox and they would have roughly the same payroll as the Mariners.
The $45,000,000 difference between the Yankees and Mariners is roughly equivalent to the combined salaries of Bernie Williams, Mike Mussina, Jason Giambi and Roger Clemens. Or if you want to think of it another way, if the Yankees were to release most of their pitchers, Wells, Clemens, Mussina, Pettite, Hitch****, El Duque, Lilly, and Mendoza then their payroll would be equivalent to the Mariners'. If you want to think of it in terms of additions rather than subtractions, if the Mariners added Randy Johnson, ARod and Griffey back again their payroll would still be slightly less than the Yankees.
The difference between the Red Sox and Yankees' payrolls would be about the same as Jeter's and Mendoza's salaries.
So the difference in payrolls between the Yankees and to a lesser extent the Red Sox and some of their better funded competitors like the Mariners and Indians is still big enough that it allows them to afford a huge amount of talent.
Pedro pitched very well.
I was right last time. Let's see about this time.
THIS IS THE YEAR.
Mandricard
AppleOutsider
<strong>The Red Sox win the first game of this series 3-1.
Pedro pitched very well.
YES!!! Hopefully we'll lose the next 3 as well.
pedro did pitch well. the Yankees bats with the exception of Jeter sucked.
Pitching wasn't too bad though. I expected worse
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... So the difference in payrolls between the Yankees and to a lesser extent the Red Sox and some of their better funded competitors like the Mariners and Indians is still big enough that it allows them to afford a huge amount of talent.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Very good post.
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YES!!! Hopefully we'll lose the next 3 as well...
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No need to be confused any more spaceman.
<strong>The Red Sox win the first game of this series 3-1.
Pedro pitched very well.
Indeed he did. The best part was when Posada was called out on strikes after failing to check his swing, and stood there in denial for about a minute. By the time he trudged back to the dugout, the third-base stands were worked into a frenzy of booing and mock-cheering.
And a guy ran onto the field, and actually made it (barely) to touch home plate. He got a well-deserved standing ovation.
All in all, a great night to be a Sox fan <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
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No need to be confused any more spaceman.
I kew he wrote that but I doubted that he really meant it. You just know that if the evil Yanquis sweep the next 3 games his tune will change.
Changing the subject just a little - why I hate the wild card:
<a href="http://www.nypost.com/sports/yankees/16728.htm"; target="_blank">IN MAY, IT'S TOO EARLY
FOR PENNANT FEVER</a>
[quote]May 24, 2002 -- BOSTON - Sure, these Yankee-Red Sox games do not matter to the participants.
It was probably just a scheduling glitch that resulted in the Yankees having a playoff-like contingent of three advanced scouts - Chuck Cottier, Wade Taylor and Gene Michael - at Fenway before this four-game series...<hr></blockquote>
Derek Lowe pitches today. I'm so excited about going to Fenway. It should be a lot of fun.