That hinge that allow bringing down the screen to the touchscreen position will just be a source of complaints from customers. I have never seen a non-counterbalanced hinge that with constant use doesn't loosen in time. And without a counterbalance, imagine what the weight of the base should be to prevent the monitor/CPU from tipping into the desk when in the touchscreen position. The second hinge at the back of the monitor will also loosen up in time.
Maybe not. I've designed hinges that maintain their "feel". It's not that hard to do.
I think a lot of people agree with you on not wanting to touch the screen. Even if Apple does resolve the uncomfortable notion of touching a vertical display there are still fingerprints and smudges* to contend with as well as the transition effort and time from vertical to fairly horizontal that make this less than ideal unless Apple has some very specific uses in place.
* I’m aware that iDevices use a touchscreen that suffer this fate, but it’s a necessary evil for those highly portable devices.
I'm not so concerned about it. My iPad does get plenty of smudges, but you really can't see them while the screen is on. That surprised me.
The advantages of properly adding touch would so outweigh any small problems with smudges that it would be worth it.
As far as the hinge thing goes. I've got a design with curved rails that the computer would slide up and down on. Pull it towards you and it would slide down almost horizontally. Push it back, and it would slide upwards in a vertical position. It could be used anywhere between. counterbalancing would ensure it would move easily, and stay put. If really necessary, the curved rails could be mounted on a platform that would be swiveled up and down for further adjustment, and could be locked into place if required.
I'm not so concerned about it. My iPad does get plenty of smudges, but you really can't see them while the screen is on. That surprised me.
The advantages of properly adding touch would so outweigh any small problems with smudges that it would be worth it.
As far as the hinge thing goes. I've got a design with curved rails that the computer would slide up and down on. Pull it towards you and it would slide down almost horizontally. Push it back, and it would slide upwards in a vertical position. It could be used anywhere between. counterbalancing would ensure it would move easily, and stay put. If really necessary, the curved rails could be mounted on a platform that would be swiveled up and down for further adjustment, and could be locked into place if required.
I have to agree totally with you on all points. Get that design to Ives
I have a new magic trackpad, it is just like having a touch screen.
Not really. I know what you mean but your brain is doing some work here. You are not directly manipulating an object you are referencing the position and moving it from elsewhere. It is a great solution but not the same.
This could have real commercial possibilities, rather than residential. For example, a cash register layout, a limited workstation, (like a fedex terminal) Kiosk sales station, a directions station with interactive maps. Yes, I know that MS has its table thang, but they have failed to commecialize it properly, and it is more of a technology showpiece.
And Johnny Ives will have to get the crew in the counterbalance and hinge departments working overtime.
I also see the value in scaling up touch panels, for a larger ipad for us old folk with cheaters.
Personally, I will stick with the keyboard for my Imac, but to be able to open an application or shutdown would be useful.
I have to agree totally with you on all points. Get that design to Ives
I sent plans for a G5 mini tower to a friend in upper engineering management at Apple right after the G5 first came out, to sell for about $1,000. He thought it would work, but that it wouldn't fly within Apple. I suspect that they would't do this either.
But, as a third party device, it might, only if Apple maintained the VESA mount in back.
I'm not so concerned about it. My iPad does get plenty of smudges, but you really can't see them while the screen is on. That surprised me.
The advantages of properly adding touch would so outweigh any small problems with smudges that it would be worth it.
As far as the hinge thing goes. I've got a design with curved rails that the computer would slide up and down on. Pull it towards you and it would slide down almost horizontally. Push it back, and it would slide upwards in a vertical position. It could be used anywhere between. counterbalancing would ensure it would move easily, and stay put. If really necessary, the curved rails could be mounted on a platform that would be swiveled up and down for further adjustment, and could be locked into place if required.
Maybe it?s a lack of an oleophobic coating but I can easily see smudges on my MBP?s glass display. Perhaps it?s the use of a TN panel and/or the way the display is set behind the glass, but I think it?s the size that allow for more view angles from farther away. Frankly, that isn?t my primary concern.
On top of that, what reason is there to add this feature over a visual display that can turned on instantly for tasks that would be most benefit from touch on a desktop OS? It?s already at your fingertips.
I?m also worried about Apple making a proper joint system. I?ve had excellent hinges on notebooks for years now and LiquidMetal seems promising on that front. I just don?t see what could be so desirable for consumers that I?d want to pic up my hands from the keyboard, mouse/trackpad? grab my iMac monitor with my hands? pull it down toward me (maybe clean off some stuff in front of my desk if they were in the way)? then start working on semi-horizontal display that has now changed for touch input. What is the benefit? And how would this work with Mac notebooks, are they excluded?
I think that large, glass trackpad that is now made for their desktops would be the best way to make this work and be useful.
Maybe it?s a lack of an oleophobic coating but I can easily see smudges on my MBP?s glass display. Perhaps it?s the use of a TN panel and/or the way the display is set behind the glass, but I think it?s the size that allow for more view angles from farther away. Frankly, that isn?t my primary concern.
On top of that, what reason is there to add this feature over a visual display that can turned on instantly for tasks that would be most benefit from touch on a desktop OS? It?s already at your fingertips.
I?m also worried about Apple making a proper joint system. I?ve had excellent hinges on notebooks for years now and LiquidMetal seems promising on that front. I just don?t see what could be so desirable for consumers that I?d want to pic up my hands from the keyboard, mouse/trackpad? grab my iMac monitor with my hands? pull it down toward me (maybe clean off some stuff in front of my desk if they were in the way)? then start working on semi-horizontal display that has now changed for touch input. What is the benefit? And how would this work with Mac notebooks, are they excluded?
I think that large, glass trackpad that is now made for their desktops would be the best way to make this work and be useful.
If it ever comes to pass I bet you will try it and love it .. what ever it is that is! Apple won't release something that is half baked I am sure.
If it ever comes to pass I bet you will try it and love it .. what ever it is that is! Apple won't release something that is half baked I am sure.
That?s why i tend to like Apple?s products, they aren?t just going to release a ?me to? product. It?s just that I can?t see the benefit or usefulness of this idea at this point. Love to get some brain storming going.
It seems to me that this would be pretty much like using Windows 7 on a tablet. Neither OS X nor Win7 are optimized for touch. When the iPad came out with a cellphone OS, it was generally thought to be a better choice then OSX for that format.
I can't imaging moving my entire arm to point to something, rather than just move my index finger to the touchpad.
The entire idea of a desktop computer with a touchscreen strikes me as foolish.
So why don't news men and weather men use hand held track pads to manipulate the large screens? It's all to do with scale. The larger screens would be hard to be accurate on with a much smaller track pad for one and you are not looking in the right place for the other. Then think of applications like a virtual synth keyboard, how do you play that on a track pad? I am sure there will be millions of apps that can take advantage of a large touch screen that simply don't currently exist. My hope is the best of both worlds will be available and available to be used where the user feels the need for either suits them best, i.e. more than one way to use the OS just as I can use a mouse or track pad now.
It seems to me that this would be pretty much like using Windows 7 on a tablet. Neither OS X nor Win7 are optimized for touch. When the iPad came out with a cellphone OS, it was generally thought to be a better choice then OSX for that format.
I can't imaging moving my entire arm to point to something, rather than just move my index finger to the touchpad.
The entire idea of a desktop computer with a touchscreen strikes me as foolish.
There's a big difference between Apple and MS Here. MS is devoted to Windows, and has a lot of problems with backwards compatibility. They have no imagination. They've had since 2000 to come up with a workable touch tablet version of Windows, but they've blown it so far. Win Mobile was never successful as a stylus operated OS either.
But Apple has iOS, which unlike Win Mobile, or any other of MS's mobile OS's, is a UNIX, heavy duty OS. MS's mobile OS's are nowhere near as powerful, and they aren't the slightest bit compatible either, because they aren't based on Windows, despite their names.
An advantage Apple has here is that ARM chips, no matter what their incarnations will be in the future, will never be as powerful as Intel's desktop chips, now that Apple is using them for its iMacs. This means that iOS apps, running in emulation, will always run at, or ABOVE their iOS speeds when running on a desktop, and probably even on a laptop. These apps could evolve for a new platform.
This, in addition, means that Apple can integrate iOS with its mother OS, being that the main difference is the desktop, and not the underlying OS.
I can see apps running on the iMac very well, using touch. I can also see desktop apps beginning to use some of the iOS touch methodologies as well, combining them in a way that MS simply cannot do with Windows.
I can also see, in the future, the two OS's being combined in a way that will easily, and naturally allow all input methods to work in an equal way.
When that happens, software companies will follow.
I believe that's one reason we didn't see OS X at the developers conference last june. I feel sure that Apple is doing a lot of work on that, and likely decided to do so after unexpected large sales from the iPad popped up. Apple has said that those sales were much higher than they expected, and are speeding up, which is not the usual situation after the first adopters get theirs. This likely influenced them, and pushed 10.7 back. There are a lot of little birds flying around me, and sometimes their song is too pretty not to listen to.
This, along with all the patents lately, should give one pause.
Maybe it?s a lack of an oleophobic coating but I can easily see smudges on my MBP?s glass display. Perhaps it?s the use of a TN panel and/or the way the display is set behind the glass, but I think it?s the size that allow for more view angles from farther away. Frankly, that isn?t my primary concern.
On top of that, what reason is there to add this feature over a visual display that can turned on instantly for tasks that would be most benefit from touch on a desktop OS? It?s already at your fingertips.
I?m also worried about Apple making a proper joint system. I?ve had excellent hinges on notebooks for years now and LiquidMetal seems promising on that front. I just don?t see what could be so desirable for consumers that I?d want to pic up my hands from the keyboard, mouse/trackpad? grab my iMac monitor with my hands? pull it down toward me (maybe clean off some stuff in front of my desk if they were in the way)? then start working on semi-horizontal display that has now changed for touch input. What is the benefit? And how would this work with Mac notebooks, are they excluded?
I think that large, glass trackpad that is now made for their desktops would be the best way to make this work and be useful.
You're beginning to sound like an old fogey. People said the very same things about mice and drop down menus. I've learned to ignore the negative comments.
I sometimes find myself reaching for my screen to touch something, and then belatedly remember I'm using my Mac Pro rather than my iPad. Since you didn't keep your iPad because you couldn't figure out what to do with it, you're a terrible person to talk to about all of this. You first need to buy another iPad, and USE it. Then you'll understand.
Other than that, my last post gives some reasons why this will work.
Apple has indeed released several half-baked products.
Well I have had ATV since day one, we love it and use it almost daily and it has been a huge success for us. It is literally our entertainment hub for music at parties (saves all the equipment in the great room, just need amp and speakers). It is how we watch HD movies now (instead of going out to the movies in these hard times). Plus how we view all our pictures and home made movies.
We even take it on our annual vacation along with an AE as we use it to view pics and our own movies taken that day. Plus I take a TB drive with tons of movies on with us in case of rain or internet is lousy as is often the case. Now I added Boxee it takes on even more uses albeit it can't drive Boxee on a 62 inch HD TV sadly but it can on smaller screens.
Apple has indeed released several half-baked products.
Apple Tv was an experiment, which, according to accounts, still sold in the millions each year. The new model has actually gotten very good reviews. It's up to the media companies to understand what has to be done, despite their resistance.
It's interesting to note that all the other companies making devices that are moving video and audio content around, and are considered to be successful are each only selling hundreds of thousands of units a year.
No one has really been successful in this area, but Apple is closest. The biggest problem is that they want to give us what we want at prices we're willing to pay, but the media companies want much more.
We can look at what happened with music downloads. After Apple gave in and raised some music pricing to $1.29, sales growth has significantly slowed down.
Once this gets straightened out, things will change.
You're beginning to sound like an old fogey. People said the very same things about mice and drop down menus. I've learned to ignore the negative comments.
I sometimes find myself reaching for my screen to touch something, and then belatedly remember I'm using my Mac Pro rather than my iPad. Since you didn't keep your iPad because you couldn't figure out what to do with it, you're a terrible person to talk to about all of this. You first need to buy another iPad, and USE it. Then you'll understand.
Other than that, my last post gives some reasons why this will work.
I had to laugh. Sop is always so positive but he does seem to need dragging along on this one.
You're beginning to sound like an old fogey. People said the very same things about mice and drop down menus. I've learned to ignore the negative comments.
I sometimes find myself reaching for my screen to touch something, and then belatedly remember I'm using my Mac Pro rather than my iPad. Since you didn't keep your iPad because you couldn't figure out what to do with it, you're a terrible person to talk to about all of this. You first need to buy another iPad, and USE it. Then you'll understand.
Other than that, my last post gives some reasons why this will work.
Maybe I am an old fogey, but note that I did state what I think is a more viable concept and did not discount these patents, in fact I asked for ideas to help me understand what Apple would have in mind for the SW.
I?m a terrible person to talk to because my window of usage between my iPhone and 13? MBP was too small to make an iPad a useful addition to my computing needs? That seems a little harsh, especially considering that I use a touch-based phone and have have been wanting more touch-based features on my Macs for years now.
Anyway, I have an iPad WiFi-3G en route with a delivery slated for tomorrow. I actually have need now for an eReader. Was going to get a Kindle for the low price of $139 whilst waiting for the G2 iPad but they aren?t readily available.
You're beginning to sound like an old fogey. People said the very same things about mice and drop down menus. I've learned to ignore the negative comments.
I sometimes find myself reaching for my screen to touch something, and then belatedly remember I'm using my Mac Pro rather than my iPad. Since you didn't keep your iPad because you couldn't figure out what to do with it, you're a terrible person to talk to about all of this. You first need to buy another iPad, and USE it. Then you'll understand.
Other than that, my last post gives some reasons why this will work.
I think a 'touch' anything with OSX is unlikely and I can't see an iMac with IOS and I definitely cannot see dual OS machine. I think it is more likely that a new device (as in the pictures) featuring a larger screen (15"-17" perhaps) and IOS is a possibility. This, to me, would make more sense as an incremental step in ushering IOS in as a new consumer OS. Though I don't have the technical knowledge to figure out if this is plausible I can see an alteration to the OS in order to allow multiple windows to be open side by side (two or more apps at once). This would allow current ipad and iphone apps to run in native resolution without hogging the entire screen.
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That hinge that allow bringing down the screen to the touchscreen position will just be a source of complaints from customers. I have never seen a non-counterbalanced hinge that with constant use doesn't loosen in time. And without a counterbalance, imagine what the weight of the base should be to prevent the monitor/CPU from tipping into the desk when in the touchscreen position. The second hinge at the back of the monitor will also loosen up in time.
Maybe not. I've designed hinges that maintain their "feel". It's not that hard to do.
I think a lot of people agree with you on not wanting to touch the screen. Even if Apple does resolve the uncomfortable notion of touching a vertical display there are still fingerprints and smudges* to contend with as well as the transition effort and time from vertical to fairly horizontal that make this less than ideal unless Apple has some very specific uses in place.
* I’m aware that iDevices use a touchscreen that suffer this fate, but it’s a necessary evil for those highly portable devices.
I'm not so concerned about it. My iPad does get plenty of smudges, but you really can't see them while the screen is on. That surprised me.
The advantages of properly adding touch would so outweigh any small problems with smudges that it would be worth it.
As far as the hinge thing goes. I've got a design with curved rails that the computer would slide up and down on. Pull it towards you and it would slide down almost horizontally. Push it back, and it would slide upwards in a vertical position. It could be used anywhere between. counterbalancing would ensure it would move easily, and stay put. If really necessary, the curved rails could be mounted on a platform that would be swiveled up and down for further adjustment, and could be locked into place if required.
I'm not so concerned about it. My iPad does get plenty of smudges, but you really can't see them while the screen is on. That surprised me.
The advantages of properly adding touch would so outweigh any small problems with smudges that it would be worth it.
As far as the hinge thing goes. I've got a design with curved rails that the computer would slide up and down on. Pull it towards you and it would slide down almost horizontally. Push it back, and it would slide upwards in a vertical position. It could be used anywhere between. counterbalancing would ensure it would move easily, and stay put. If really necessary, the curved rails could be mounted on a platform that would be swiveled up and down for further adjustment, and could be locked into place if required.
I have to agree totally with you on all points. Get that design to Ives
I have a new magic trackpad, it is just like having a touch screen.
Not really. I know what you mean but your brain is doing some work here. You are not directly manipulating an object you are referencing the position and moving it from elsewhere. It is a great solution but not the same.
And Johnny Ives will have to get the crew in the counterbalance and hinge departments working overtime.
I also see the value in scaling up touch panels, for a larger ipad for us old folk with cheaters.
Personally, I will stick with the keyboard for my Imac, but to be able to open an application or shutdown would be useful.
I have to agree totally with you on all points. Get that design to Ives
I sent plans for a G5 mini tower to a friend in upper engineering management at Apple right after the G5 first came out, to sell for about $1,000. He thought it would work, but that it wouldn't fly within Apple. I suspect that they would't do this either.
But, as a third party device, it might, only if Apple maintained the VESA mount in back.
I'm not so concerned about it. My iPad does get plenty of smudges, but you really can't see them while the screen is on. That surprised me.
The advantages of properly adding touch would so outweigh any small problems with smudges that it would be worth it.
As far as the hinge thing goes. I've got a design with curved rails that the computer would slide up and down on. Pull it towards you and it would slide down almost horizontally. Push it back, and it would slide upwards in a vertical position. It could be used anywhere between. counterbalancing would ensure it would move easily, and stay put. If really necessary, the curved rails could be mounted on a platform that would be swiveled up and down for further adjustment, and could be locked into place if required.
Maybe it?s a lack of an oleophobic coating but I can easily see smudges on my MBP?s glass display. Perhaps it?s the use of a TN panel and/or the way the display is set behind the glass, but I think it?s the size that allow for more view angles from farther away. Frankly, that isn?t my primary concern.
On top of that, what reason is there to add this feature over a visual display that can turned on instantly for tasks that would be most benefit from touch on a desktop OS? It?s already at your fingertips.
I?m also worried about Apple making a proper joint system. I?ve had excellent hinges on notebooks for years now and LiquidMetal seems promising on that front. I just don?t see what could be so desirable for consumers that I?d want to pic up my hands from the keyboard, mouse/trackpad? grab my iMac monitor with my hands? pull it down toward me (maybe clean off some stuff in front of my desk if they were in the way)? then start working on semi-horizontal display that has now changed for touch input. What is the benefit? And how would this work with Mac notebooks, are they excluded?
I think that large, glass trackpad that is now made for their desktops would be the best way to make this work and be useful.
Maybe it?s a lack of an oleophobic coating but I can easily see smudges on my MBP?s glass display. Perhaps it?s the use of a TN panel and/or the way the display is set behind the glass, but I think it?s the size that allow for more view angles from farther away. Frankly, that isn?t my primary concern.
On top of that, what reason is there to add this feature over a visual display that can turned on instantly for tasks that would be most benefit from touch on a desktop OS? It?s already at your fingertips.
I?m also worried about Apple making a proper joint system. I?ve had excellent hinges on notebooks for years now and LiquidMetal seems promising on that front. I just don?t see what could be so desirable for consumers that I?d want to pic up my hands from the keyboard, mouse/trackpad? grab my iMac monitor with my hands? pull it down toward me (maybe clean off some stuff in front of my desk if they were in the way)? then start working on semi-horizontal display that has now changed for touch input. What is the benefit? And how would this work with Mac notebooks, are they excluded?
I think that large, glass trackpad that is now made for their desktops would be the best way to make this work and be useful.
If it ever comes to pass I bet you will try it and love it .. what ever it is that is! Apple won't release something that is half baked I am sure.
If it ever comes to pass I bet you will try it and love it .. what ever it is that is! Apple won't release something that is half baked I am sure.
That?s why i tend to like Apple?s products, they aren?t just going to release a ?me to? product. It?s just that I can?t see the benefit or usefulness of this idea at this point. Love to get some brain storming going.
It seems to me that this would be pretty much like using Windows 7 on a tablet. Neither OS X nor Win7 are optimized for touch. When the iPad came out with a cellphone OS, it was generally thought to be a better choice then OSX for that format.
I can't imaging moving my entire arm to point to something, rather than just move my index finger to the touchpad.
The entire idea of a desktop computer with a touchscreen strikes me as foolish.
So why don't news men and weather men use hand held track pads to manipulate the large screens? It's all to do with scale. The larger screens would be hard to be accurate on with a much smaller track pad for one and you are not looking in the right place for the other. Then think of applications like a virtual synth keyboard, how do you play that on a track pad? I am sure there will be millions of apps that can take advantage of a large touch screen that simply don't currently exist. My hope is the best of both worlds will be available and available to be used where the user feels the need for either suits them best, i.e. more than one way to use the OS just as I can use a mouse or track pad now.
It seems to me that this would be pretty much like using Windows 7 on a tablet. Neither OS X nor Win7 are optimized for touch. When the iPad came out with a cellphone OS, it was generally thought to be a better choice then OSX for that format.
I can't imaging moving my entire arm to point to something, rather than just move my index finger to the touchpad.
The entire idea of a desktop computer with a touchscreen strikes me as foolish.
There's a big difference between Apple and MS Here. MS is devoted to Windows, and has a lot of problems with backwards compatibility. They have no imagination. They've had since 2000 to come up with a workable touch tablet version of Windows, but they've blown it so far. Win Mobile was never successful as a stylus operated OS either.
But Apple has iOS, which unlike Win Mobile, or any other of MS's mobile OS's, is a UNIX, heavy duty OS. MS's mobile OS's are nowhere near as powerful, and they aren't the slightest bit compatible either, because they aren't based on Windows, despite their names.
An advantage Apple has here is that ARM chips, no matter what their incarnations will be in the future, will never be as powerful as Intel's desktop chips, now that Apple is using them for its iMacs. This means that iOS apps, running in emulation, will always run at, or ABOVE their iOS speeds when running on a desktop, and probably even on a laptop. These apps could evolve for a new platform.
This, in addition, means that Apple can integrate iOS with its mother OS, being that the main difference is the desktop, and not the underlying OS.
I can see apps running on the iMac very well, using touch. I can also see desktop apps beginning to use some of the iOS touch methodologies as well, combining them in a way that MS simply cannot do with Windows.
I can also see, in the future, the two OS's being combined in a way that will easily, and naturally allow all input methods to work in an equal way.
When that happens, software companies will follow.
I believe that's one reason we didn't see OS X at the developers conference last june. I feel sure that Apple is doing a lot of work on that, and likely decided to do so after unexpected large sales from the iPad popped up. Apple has said that those sales were much higher than they expected, and are speeding up, which is not the usual situation after the first adopters get theirs. This likely influenced them, and pushed 10.7 back. There are a lot of little birds flying around me, and sometimes their song is too pretty not to listen to.
This, along with all the patents lately, should give one pause.
Maybe it?s a lack of an oleophobic coating but I can easily see smudges on my MBP?s glass display. Perhaps it?s the use of a TN panel and/or the way the display is set behind the glass, but I think it?s the size that allow for more view angles from farther away. Frankly, that isn?t my primary concern.
On top of that, what reason is there to add this feature over a visual display that can turned on instantly for tasks that would be most benefit from touch on a desktop OS? It?s already at your fingertips.
I?m also worried about Apple making a proper joint system. I?ve had excellent hinges on notebooks for years now and LiquidMetal seems promising on that front. I just don?t see what could be so desirable for consumers that I?d want to pic up my hands from the keyboard, mouse/trackpad? grab my iMac monitor with my hands? pull it down toward me (maybe clean off some stuff in front of my desk if they were in the way)? then start working on semi-horizontal display that has now changed for touch input. What is the benefit? And how would this work with Mac notebooks, are they excluded?
I think that large, glass trackpad that is now made for their desktops would be the best way to make this work and be useful.
You're beginning to sound like an old fogey. People said the very same things about mice and drop down menus. I've learned to ignore the negative comments.
I sometimes find myself reaching for my screen to touch something, and then belatedly remember I'm using my Mac Pro rather than my iPad. Since you didn't keep your iPad because you couldn't figure out what to do with it, you're a terrible person to talk to about all of this. You first need to buy another iPad, and USE it. Then you'll understand.
Other than that, my last post gives some reasons why this will work.
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There are a lot of little birds flying around me, and sometimes their song is too pretty not to listen to.
This, along with all the patents lately, should give one pause.
Thank you! Very well explained. I was beginning to feel alone in this same belief
What about Apple TV?
Apple has indeed released several half-baked products.
Well I have had ATV since day one, we love it and use it almost daily and it has been a huge success for us. It is literally our entertainment hub for music at parties (saves all the equipment in the great room, just need amp and speakers). It is how we watch HD movies now (instead of going out to the movies in these hard times). Plus how we view all our pictures and home made movies.
We even take it on our annual vacation along with an AE as we use it to view pics and our own movies taken that day. Plus I take a TB drive with tons of movies on with us in case of rain or internet is lousy as is often the case. Now I added Boxee it takes on even more uses albeit it can't drive Boxee on a 62 inch HD TV sadly but it can on smaller screens.
What's not to love?
What about Apple TV?
Apple has indeed released several half-baked products.
Apple Tv was an experiment, which, according to accounts, still sold in the millions each year. The new model has actually gotten very good reviews. It's up to the media companies to understand what has to be done, despite their resistance.
It's interesting to note that all the other companies making devices that are moving video and audio content around, and are considered to be successful are each only selling hundreds of thousands of units a year.
No one has really been successful in this area, but Apple is closest. The biggest problem is that they want to give us what we want at prices we're willing to pay, but the media companies want much more.
We can look at what happened with music downloads. After Apple gave in and raised some music pricing to $1.29, sales growth has significantly slowed down.
Once this gets straightened out, things will change.
You're beginning to sound like an old fogey. People said the very same things about mice and drop down menus. I've learned to ignore the negative comments.
I sometimes find myself reaching for my screen to touch something, and then belatedly remember I'm using my Mac Pro rather than my iPad. Since you didn't keep your iPad because you couldn't figure out what to do with it, you're a terrible person to talk to about all of this. You first need to buy another iPad, and USE it. Then you'll understand.
Other than that, my last post gives some reasons why this will work.
I had to laugh. Sop is always so positive but he does seem to need dragging along on this one.
You're beginning to sound like an old fogey. People said the very same things about mice and drop down menus. I've learned to ignore the negative comments.
I sometimes find myself reaching for my screen to touch something, and then belatedly remember I'm using my Mac Pro rather than my iPad. Since you didn't keep your iPad because you couldn't figure out what to do with it, you're a terrible person to talk to about all of this. You first need to buy another iPad, and USE it. Then you'll understand.
Other than that, my last post gives some reasons why this will work.
Maybe I am an old fogey, but note that I did state what I think is a more viable concept and did not discount these patents, in fact I asked for ideas to help me understand what Apple would have in mind for the SW.
I?m a terrible person to talk to because my window of usage between my iPhone and 13? MBP was too small to make an iPad a useful addition to my computing needs? That seems a little harsh, especially considering that I use a touch-based phone and have have been wanting more touch-based features on my Macs for years now.
Anyway, I have an iPad WiFi-3G en route with a delivery slated for tomorrow. I actually have need now for an eReader. Was going to get a Kindle for the low price of $139 whilst waiting for the G2 iPad but they aren?t readily available.
You're beginning to sound like an old fogey. People said the very same things about mice and drop down menus. I've learned to ignore the negative comments.
I sometimes find myself reaching for my screen to touch something, and then belatedly remember I'm using my Mac Pro rather than my iPad. Since you didn't keep your iPad because you couldn't figure out what to do with it, you're a terrible person to talk to about all of this. You first need to buy another iPad, and USE it. Then you'll understand.
Other than that, my last post gives some reasons why this will work.
I think a 'touch' anything with OSX is unlikely and I can't see an iMac with IOS and I definitely cannot see dual OS machine. I think it is more likely that a new device (as in the pictures) featuring a larger screen (15"-17" perhaps) and IOS is a possibility. This, to me, would make more sense as an incremental step in ushering IOS in as a new consumer OS. Though I don't have the technical knowledge to figure out if this is plausible I can see an alteration to the OS in order to allow multiple windows to be open side by side (two or more apps at once). This would allow current ipad and iphone apps to run in native resolution without hogging the entire screen.