The siutation with Android and 2.2 is the same situation with the iPhone and v4 of its software. You need the hardware that can support and handle the software. The latest handsets have either been updated to 2.2 or are soon to be updated to 2.2 because they have the power to run it.
So you're actually confirming my post... To recap, you said:
"Let see so we have iPad and iOS record sales and we have Android record sales which promotes Flash as a benefit over iOS. So it appears to me that Apple has done nothing to slow down Flash or help move to HTML5 or any other alternative."
To which, I say again,
You claim "Android has record sales and promotes Flash as a benefit over iOS". But you mention you need hardware than can support and handle the software, and the latest handsets "are soon to be updated to 2.2". Thus here we have the problem that Flash is supposed to be a benefit of Android but clearly it is not as widespread as it should be, and, even some of the latest handsets don't have it and may or may not be updated within a shorter or longer timeframe.
So, Flash as a benefit on Android appears to be more hype than reality at this stage.
Secondly, you mention "Apple has done nothing to slow down Flash or help move to HTML 5". Again, if Android actually was shipping with Flash-capable phones right from the start, and if Android was only used on hardware that was "capable to run Flash", then Flash should be no issue for any Android smartphone.
However, smartphone manufacturers know that Apple iOS devices can do, and more importantly to them, sell well without Flash. Smartphone manufacturers also ship a significant percentage of phones which they know currently don't or will never run Flash.
So, Apple and even other smartphone manufacturers have done at least something in encouraging many sites to move to HTML5 video, to drop Flash-only websites, and to consider non-Flash versions of their websites.
So you're actually confirming my post... To recap, you said:
"Let see so we have iPad and iOS record sales and we have Android record sales which promotes Flash as a benefit over iOS. So it appears to me that Apple has done nothing to slow down Flash or help move to HTML5 or any other alternative."
To which, I say again,
You claim "Android has record sales and promotes Flash as a benefit over iOS". But you mention you need hardware than can support and handle the software, and the latest handsets "are soon to be updated to 2.2". Thus here we have the problem that Flash is supposed to be a benefit of Android but clearly it is not as widespread as it should be, and, even some of the latest handsets don't have it and may or may not be updated within a shorter or longer timeframe.
So, Flash as a benefit on Android appears to be more hype than reality at this stage.
Secondly, you mention "Apple has done nothing to slow down Flash or help move to HTML 5". Again, if Android actually was shipping with Flash-capable phones right from the start, and if Android was only used on hardware that was "capable to run Flash", then Flash should be no issue for any Android smartphone.
However, smartphone manufacturers know that Apple iOS devices can do, and more importantly to them, sell well without Flash. Smartphone manufacturers also ship a significant percentage of phones which they know currently don't or will never run Flash.
So, Apple and even other smartphone manufacturers have done at least something in encouraging many sites to move to HTML5 video, to drop Flash-only websites, and to consider non-Flash versions of their websites.
I think it's a bit more than hype now, as more phones are updated, it was just a couple months ago, when no android phones had flash at all. Smartphone upgrades happen at a pretty rapid pace, so it'll be on quite a few phones as nokia,win7,rim adopts it, and users begin upgrading their smartphones. I knew it was only a matter of time. This will move quicker than anyone thinks. I recall someone saying it would barely hit 1% in a year from 10.1's release. I have to have a wee chuckle about this...
I think it's a bit more than hype now, as more phones are updated, it was just a couple months ago, when no android phones had flash at all. Smartphone upgrades happen at a pretty rapid pace, so it'll be on quite a few phones as nokia,win7,rim adopts it, and users begin upgrading their smartphones. I knew it was only a matter of time. This will move quicker than anyone thinks. I recall someone saying it would barely hit 1% in a year from 10.1's release. I have to have a wee chuckle about this...
The only thing that matters to consumers is video playback - if flash is replaced by HTML5 nobody is going to sleep to unsoundly with regards to ads not displaying.
The only thing that matters to consumers is video playback - if flash is replaced by HTML5 nobody is going to sleep to unsoundly with regards to ads not displaying.
agreed, though there's far more to flash than video playback, or ads. html5 video, can't kill flash. Something else will.
Yup, adding more carriers when you already can't make enough phones to keep up with demand is an absolutely brilliant strategy.
And left behind at what? Owning the 2 for one special? The high volume no-profit marketshare? I think Apple has a pretty clear history of being perfectly happy not being all things to all people, and since high volume no-profit strategies are about, well, volume I don't understand why anyone gets worked up about market share numbers. At all.
Google can ship all the Android phones they want, but like Windows Mobile of old, if hardly any of them are used to do anything beyond basic phone calls and light email does it really matter that the phone came with Android? Does google really gain any revenue from the fact that it was simply loaded on a device that was shoveled out the door to someone that is not using it nearly as much as the average iOS user?
As they say, the proof is in the earnings reports...
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I only pointed out that the Droideks who gave the idea that Android is cruising trouble free and making money off EVERY droid phone is false
Ok. I didn't get that point. Sorry.
I don't agree with that idea either.
...GOOGLE MAKES LESS OR NOTHING".
...Google gets zilch from search.
...Google gets zilch.
...google loses revenue
...a larger change that could undermine Android itself,
...GAIN for Google ZERO.
Sorry I misunderstood. I got the impression that you were saying that Google will have difficulty profiting from its involvement in Android.
The siutation with Android and 2.2 is the same situation with the iPhone and v4 of its software. You need the hardware that can support and handle the software. The latest handsets have either been updated to 2.2 or are soon to be updated to 2.2 because they have the power to run it.
So you're actually confirming my post... To recap, you said:
"Let see so we have iPad and iOS record sales and we have Android record sales which promotes Flash as a benefit over iOS. So it appears to me that Apple has done nothing to slow down Flash or help move to HTML5 or any other alternative."
To which, I say again,
You claim "Android has record sales and promotes Flash as a benefit over iOS". But you mention you need hardware than can support and handle the software, and the latest handsets "are soon to be updated to 2.2". Thus here we have the problem that Flash is supposed to be a benefit of Android but clearly it is not as widespread as it should be, and, even some of the latest handsets don't have it and may or may not be updated within a shorter or longer timeframe.
So, Flash as a benefit on Android appears to be more hype than reality at this stage.
Secondly, you mention "Apple has done nothing to slow down Flash or help move to HTML 5". Again, if Android actually was shipping with Flash-capable phones right from the start, and if Android was only used on hardware that was "capable to run Flash", then Flash should be no issue for any Android smartphone.
However, smartphone manufacturers know that Apple iOS devices can do, and more importantly to them, sell well without Flash. Smartphone manufacturers also ship a significant percentage of phones which they know currently don't or will never run Flash.
So, Apple and even other smartphone manufacturers have done at least something in encouraging many sites to move to HTML5 video, to drop Flash-only websites, and to consider non-Flash versions of their websites.
So you're actually confirming my post... To recap, you said:
"Let see so we have iPad and iOS record sales and we have Android record sales which promotes Flash as a benefit over iOS. So it appears to me that Apple has done nothing to slow down Flash or help move to HTML5 or any other alternative."
To which, I say again,
You claim "Android has record sales and promotes Flash as a benefit over iOS". But you mention you need hardware than can support and handle the software, and the latest handsets "are soon to be updated to 2.2". Thus here we have the problem that Flash is supposed to be a benefit of Android but clearly it is not as widespread as it should be, and, even some of the latest handsets don't have it and may or may not be updated within a shorter or longer timeframe.
So, Flash as a benefit on Android appears to be more hype than reality at this stage.
Secondly, you mention "Apple has done nothing to slow down Flash or help move to HTML 5". Again, if Android actually was shipping with Flash-capable phones right from the start, and if Android was only used on hardware that was "capable to run Flash", then Flash should be no issue for any Android smartphone.
However, smartphone manufacturers know that Apple iOS devices can do, and more importantly to them, sell well without Flash. Smartphone manufacturers also ship a significant percentage of phones which they know currently don't or will never run Flash.
So, Apple and even other smartphone manufacturers have done at least something in encouraging many sites to move to HTML5 video, to drop Flash-only websites, and to consider non-Flash versions of their websites.
I think it's a bit more than hype now, as more phones are updated, it was just a couple months ago, when no android phones had flash at all. Smartphone upgrades happen at a pretty rapid pace, so it'll be on quite a few phones as nokia,win7,rim adopts it, and users begin upgrading their smartphones. I knew it was only a matter of time. This will move quicker than anyone thinks. I recall someone saying it would barely hit 1% in a year from 10.1's release. I have to have a wee chuckle about this...
I think it's a bit more than hype now, as more phones are updated, it was just a couple months ago, when no android phones had flash at all. Smartphone upgrades happen at a pretty rapid pace, so it'll be on quite a few phones as nokia,win7,rim adopts it, and users begin upgrading their smartphones. I knew it was only a matter of time. This will move quicker than anyone thinks. I recall someone saying it would barely hit 1% in a year from 10.1's release. I have to have a wee chuckle about this...
The only thing that matters to consumers is video playback - if flash is replaced by HTML5 nobody is going to sleep to unsoundly with regards to ads not displaying.
The only thing that matters to consumers is video playback - if flash is replaced by HTML5 nobody is going to sleep to unsoundly with regards to ads not displaying.
agreed, though there's far more to flash than video playback, or ads. html5 video, can't kill flash. Something else will.
Yup, adding more carriers when you already can't make enough phones to keep up with demand is an absolutely brilliant strategy.
And left behind at what? Owning the 2 for one special? The high volume no-profit marketshare? I think Apple has a pretty clear history of being perfectly happy not being all things to all people, and since high volume no-profit strategies are about, well, volume I don't understand why anyone gets worked up about market share numbers. At all.
Google can ship all the Android phones they want, but like Windows Mobile of old, if hardly any of them are used to do anything beyond basic phone calls and light email does it really matter that the phone came with Android? Does google really gain any revenue from the fact that it was simply loaded on a device that was shoveled out the door to someone that is not using it nearly as much as the average iOS user?
As they say, the proof is in the earnings reports...
I love this post!