The stupids are out tonight, in force, God love them. I dont want to name names but blackintosh is fairly dumb, truth be told.
Anyway, an application on the Mac is a binary which can be downloaded by the internet to the filesystem. The Mac has a file system visible to the user. Important to note that.
That wont change. If it does change, then Mac OS X ceases to be a computer OS.
Given that it has a file system any application written for the system can be downloaded and run.
There, I said it.
Of course, I say "downloaded" - I mean put on your disk - via HTTP, FTP, SMB, USB, external hard drives or whatever takes your fancy.
No "jail break" is necessary. The Mac Store will have some kind of DRM - which is good for devs - but good luck with protecting those applications. In other words software will remain free for those for whom it is free at the moment, free from those who wish to distribute free software in any compatible format they choose, and remain paid for those who pay at the moment; and further: OS X will run X Windows, posix code, freeware, shareware, and malware. As it does now.
Now, stop talking crap, trolls. You are embarrassing Appleinsider by posting here.
So long as it remains optional, I like the idea. At least I know that, if I need an app and go looking for it on the Mac app store, it'll be decent (presumably there will be standards to have your app listed for sale on the app store). Right now, if I go off googling something, it's a toss-up whether it's what I'm looking for or a piece of crap.
Being on the App store doesn't preclude it from being a piece of crap. And there will be lots of apps not on that store so Googling may still be needed.
Nothing you said is "obvious".You are "obviously" not thinking it through.
Obviously, you don't work at a software company. Seriously, there may be more advantage and success with a unified App Store, the Mac will not be much different than an iPad, or my iPhone for that matter. I suppose that I'm not really looking forward to this change in the culture. I don't want to need Apple.
Obviously, you don't work at a software company. Seriously, there may be more advantage and success with a unified App Store, the Mac will not be much different than an iPad, or my iPhone for that matter. I suppose that I'm not really looking forward to this change in the culture. I don't want to need Apple.
So, um, how does apple preclude people from installing on an OS with a file system from any place they want to?
You know, this seems like the same principle behind the Downloads section of Apple.com, but better. Thus this really isn't too new. Calm down everyone!
No - Strange logic YOU have there if you can't see the writing on the wall. Trust me, "OPTIONAL" will last a year or two. By the time Lion's successor comes out, all software will have to be approved by Steve...
Pathetic,.,,,
Does this need to get down the barrel so fast?
Not meaning to be pro/con apple here, but I think this could very well be a real possibility. Of course, there will be strong advantages to this model. Of course the big disadvantage is when apple doesn't like a certain something.
It's my experience, that the masses like to be told what to use, and buy. Not really trying to harsh, but it's the truth. And I doubt companies like apple haven't realized this.
Obviously, you don't work at a software company. Seriously, there may be more advantage and success with a unified App Store, the Mac will not be much different than an iPad, or my iPhone for that matter. I suppose that I'm not really looking forward to this change in the culture. I don't want to need Apple.
I don't HAVE to work at a software company to understand this. But what you said wasn't logical. It was just what you want to think about it.
Some people are pretending to themselves that this is a simple issue, when it's not.
Not meaning to be pro/con apple here, but I think this could very well be a real possibility. Of course, there will be strong advantages to this model. Of course the big disadvantage is when apple doesn't like a certain something.
It's my experience, that the masses like to be told what to use, and buy. Not really trying to harsh, but it's the truth. And I doubt companies like apple haven't realized this.
There will always be a large category of programs that can' easily be served by this method, and a large portion of customers who can't be served by it. That's what some people are forgetting (other than the trolls, who want to make everything look bad).
Well, there you have it. Steve Jobs has seized full control over your user experience. Thus ends the best computing experience in existance. It was good while it lasted.
From now on you will do exactly what Steve Jobs wants you to do. No porn, no reading of any magazines that do not meet Jobs' and Gore's political agendas, no watching of any content that doesn't come from iTunes or Netflix. And I would expect that partnership to go by the wayside eventually since Apple can't partner with anyone for very long.
No flash, no matte screen, no software unless Apple approved. Terrible.
Although I'm sure all of you will love it since you're basking in the glow of the reality distortion field.
Oh well. Back to Windows and Android.
Steve actually did nothing of the sort. At all. So what is it like living in a fantasy land of magic and make believe? I'm pretty sure I am going to be pretty damn tired of this doom and gloom crap in the very near future.
No - Strange logic YOU have there if you can't see the writing on the wall. Trust me, "OPTIONAL" will last a year or two. By the time Lion's successor comes out, all software will have to be approved by Steve...
I doubt they would. Once the cat is out of the bag, it's very difficult getting it back in.
This seems like a good idea, but it will be limited. It would have to be. There are too many very large professional programs that don't lend themselves to an App Store kind of environment.
School systems have their own program limitations, as well as protected servers, etc. so it wouldn't work there.
But for many programs and developers, this will be great. I particularly like the updating process. I long subscribed to VersionTracker for that very reason. Now, many programs have their own update process though many don't, but this would make it easier for us and even them.
People complain about the install process. This makes that VERY easy. A lot of good things here, but it won't work for something like CS5, or AutoCAD, or any other large complex software such as Office, etc.
I can't imagine that Apple isn't aware of that.
Except that it actually works better. The Enterprise program for iPhone allows companies to deploy applications from their own internal store...
No - Strange logic YOU have there if you can't see the writing on the wall. Trust me, "OPTIONAL" will last a year or two. By the time Lion's successor comes out, all software will have to be approved by Steve...
Strobe's spending too much time in the previous thread shredding the notion of an optional marketing scheme - The Mac App Store.
He'll have a lot of fun in this thread cutting and pasting his tired remarks about how the average consumer is better off searching MacUpdate or waiting for Macheist bundles than searching in a unified app store.
Best of both worlds. I solute Steve for making the right choice and not walling off OSX. I think that this is a great way to strike at Chrome OS, and let smaller developers sells their software without the distribution, storage and CD costs.
Not that I expect anyone to know this answer yet...
Apple said I can use an app I purchase on any Mac I own. I actually asume that means any Mac with iTunes authoried to my iTunes account (ie, AppleID). But whatever, 5 Macs is plenty.
I wonder what the folks at Valve are saying about this right now... they just got Steam up and running on MacOS X this year, now Apple is looking to ship the same basic thing as part of their next OS.
I just hope Apple gave them a heads-up on this (or maybe offered to collaborate on the Games side), since it's been great having a major games developer finally embrace the Mac.
Well, there you have it. Steve Jobs has seized full control over your user experience. Thus ends the best computing experience in existance. It was good while it lasted.
From now on you will do exactly what Steve Jobs wants you to do. No porn, no reading of any magazines that do not meet Jobs' and Gore's political agendas, no watching of any content that doesn't come from iTunes or Netflix. And I would expect that partnership to go by the wayside eventually since Apple can't partner with anyone for very long.
No flash, no matte screen, no software unless Apple approved. Terrible.
Although I'm sure all of you will love it since you're basking in the glow of the reality distortion field.
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Anyway, an application on the Mac is a binary which can be downloaded by the internet to the filesystem. The Mac has a file system visible to the user. Important to note that.
That wont change. If it does change, then Mac OS X ceases to be a computer OS.
Given that it has a file system any application written for the system can be downloaded and run.
There, I said it.
Of course, I say "downloaded" - I mean put on your disk - via HTTP, FTP, SMB, USB, external hard drives or whatever takes your fancy.
No "jail break" is necessary. The Mac Store will have some kind of DRM - which is good for devs - but good luck with protecting those applications. In other words software will remain free for those for whom it is free at the moment, free from those who wish to distribute free software in any compatible format they choose, and remain paid for those who pay at the moment; and further: OS X will run X Windows, posix code, freeware, shareware, and malware. As it does now.
Now, stop talking crap, trolls. You are embarrassing Appleinsider by posting here.
So long as it remains optional, I like the idea. At least I know that, if I need an app and go looking for it on the Mac app store, it'll be decent (presumably there will be standards to have your app listed for sale on the app store). Right now, if I go off googling something, it's a toss-up whether it's what I'm looking for or a piece of crap.
Being on the App store doesn't preclude it from being a piece of crap. And there will be lots of apps not on that store so Googling may still be needed.
Nothing you said is "obvious".You are "obviously" not thinking it through.
Obviously, you don't work at a software company. Seriously, there may be more advantage and success with a unified App Store, the Mac will not be much different than an iPad, or my iPhone for that matter. I suppose that I'm not really looking forward to this change in the culture. I don't want to need Apple.
Obviously, you don't work at a software company. Seriously, there may be more advantage and success with a unified App Store, the Mac will not be much different than an iPad, or my iPhone for that matter. I suppose that I'm not really looking forward to this change in the culture. I don't want to need Apple.
So, um, how does apple preclude people from installing on an OS with a file system from any place they want to?
No - Strange logic YOU have there if you can't see the writing on the wall. Trust me, "OPTIONAL" will last a year or two. By the time Lion's successor comes out, all software will have to be approved by Steve...
Pathetic,.,,,
Does this need to get down the barrel so fast?
Not meaning to be pro/con apple here, but I think this could very well be a real possibility. Of course, there will be strong advantages to this model. Of course the big disadvantage is when apple doesn't like a certain something.
It's my experience, that the masses like to be told what to use, and buy. Not really trying to harsh, but it's the truth. And I doubt companies like apple haven't realized this.
Obviously, you don't work at a software company. Seriously, there may be more advantage and success with a unified App Store, the Mac will not be much different than an iPad, or my iPhone for that matter. I suppose that I'm not really looking forward to this change in the culture. I don't want to need Apple.
I don't HAVE to work at a software company to understand this. But what you said wasn't logical. It was just what you want to think about it.
Some people are pretending to themselves that this is a simple issue, when it's not.
Does this need to get down the barrel so fast?
Not meaning to be pro/con apple here, but I think this could very well be a real possibility. Of course, there will be strong advantages to this model. Of course the big disadvantage is when apple doesn't like a certain something.
It's my experience, that the masses like to be told what to use, and buy. Not really trying to harsh, but it's the truth. And I doubt companies like apple haven't realized this.
There will always be a large category of programs that can' easily be served by this method, and a large portion of customers who can't be served by it. That's what some people are forgetting (other than the trolls, who want to make everything look bad).
Well, there you have it. Steve Jobs has seized full control over your user experience. Thus ends the best computing experience in existance. It was good while it lasted.
From now on you will do exactly what Steve Jobs wants you to do. No porn, no reading of any magazines that do not meet Jobs' and Gore's political agendas, no watching of any content that doesn't come from iTunes or Netflix. And I would expect that partnership to go by the wayside eventually since Apple can't partner with anyone for very long.
No flash, no matte screen, no software unless Apple approved. Terrible.
Although I'm sure all of you will love it since you're basking in the glow of the reality distortion field.
Oh well. Back to Windows and Android.
Steve actually did nothing of the sort. At all. So what is it like living in a fantasy land of magic and make believe? I'm pretty sure I am going to be pretty damn tired of this doom and gloom crap in the very near future.
No - Strange logic YOU have there if you can't see the writing on the wall. Trust me, "OPTIONAL" will last a year or two. By the time Lion's successor comes out, all software will have to be approved by Steve...
Pathetic,.,,,
Slippery slope logic is always silly...
I doubt they would. Once the cat is out of the bag, it's very difficult getting it back in.
This seems like a good idea, but it will be limited. It would have to be. There are too many very large professional programs that don't lend themselves to an App Store kind of environment.
School systems have their own program limitations, as well as protected servers, etc. so it wouldn't work there.
But for many programs and developers, this will be great. I particularly like the updating process. I long subscribed to VersionTracker for that very reason. Now, many programs have their own update process though many don't, but this would make it easier for us and even them.
People complain about the install process. This makes that VERY easy. A lot of good things here, but it won't work for something like CS5, or AutoCAD, or any other large complex software such as Office, etc.
I can't imagine that Apple isn't aware of that.
Except that it actually works better. The Enterprise program for iPhone allows companies to deploy applications from their own internal store...
Except that it actually works better. The Enterprise program for iPhone allows companies to deploy applications from their own internal store...
Yes, but those aren't multi GB suites with many install options.
No - Strange logic YOU have there if you can't see the writing on the wall. Trust me, "OPTIONAL" will last a year or two. By the time Lion's successor comes out, all software will have to be approved by Steve...
Pathetic,.,,,
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don't buy a mac
go enjoy
He'll have a lot of fun in this thread cutting and pasting his tired remarks about how the average consumer is better off searching MacUpdate or waiting for Macheist bundles than searching in a unified app store.
Strobe, oh Strobe, wherefore art though?
/sarcasm
Not that I expect anyone to know this answer yet...
Apple said I can use an app I purchase on any Mac I own. I actually asume that means any Mac with iTunes authoried to my iTunes account (ie, AppleID). But whatever, 5 Macs is plenty.
What does iTunes have to do with it?
I just hope Apple gave them a heads-up on this (or maybe offered to collaborate on the Games side), since it's been great having a major games developer finally embrace the Mac.
Read a few posts... Then decided to express my initial thoughts.
For the immediate future, this changes little...
But, make no mistake about it -- a revolution has started.
As the personal computer brought the computer from the glass temple of the few, into the the homes and offices of the many...
Apple is going to bring the computer to the masses...
SJ is going to change the world, big time!
We. Techies, are like the lab-coated pros of of the maimframe era -- our race is run!
Like it or not, the common man (the non-techie), within 4 years, is going to have more power in is pocket than we have, today, in our home or office.
The computer will become our servant and our guru...
Who cares where the capability (apps/solutions) comes from or how it's delivered -- it will be at our fingertips, instantly.
I, for one, hope I can keep pace...
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Well, there you have it. Steve Jobs has seized full control over your user experience. Thus ends the best computing experience in existance. It was good while it lasted.
From now on you will do exactly what Steve Jobs wants you to do. No porn, no reading of any magazines that do not meet Jobs' and Gore's political agendas, no watching of any content that doesn't come from iTunes or Netflix. And I would expect that partnership to go by the wayside eventually since Apple can't partner with anyone for very long.
No flash, no matte screen, no software unless Apple approved. Terrible.
Although I'm sure all of you will love it since you're basking in the glow of the reality distortion field.
Oh well. Back to Windows and Android.
So why are you on appleinsider forums again?