New Windows 7 ad criticizes Apple's lack of Blu-ray support on Mac

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    Originally Posted by kotatsu View Post


    My Pioneer plasma is 50". 480p is basically unwatchable. 720p looks passable. 1080p looks incredible.



    That's my experience. Maybe you need a TV.





    All the experts agree that the minimum size necessary to see the difference is 55 inches.



    Unless you sit too close to the screen that is. Heck, hold an iP4 at 3 inches and you can see the pixels on that too.
  • Reply 302 of 410
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    Originally Posted by a_greer View Post


    It isnt emotional it is logical ...



    as evidenced in this thread alone there is much emotion here
  • Reply 303 of 410
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    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post






    Let?s see if you can keep up, though my optimism isn?t overwhelming.



    ...



    But hey, at your lack of cognition is consistent. No one can that that away from you.





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    Har! Keep it up, Soli!
  • Reply 304 of 410
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    Originally Posted by TNSF View Post


    An HD movie from iTunes is 720p and can be up to 5GB in size. However the SD version is included free. When syncing the ipad you can choose whether to permit the HD version to be copied to prefer the SD version when available.



    I allow HD because when I play content back through the TV in my hotel suite I want HD quality.



    Ah. I understand.



    But how do you hook up an iPad to a hotel room TV? Not HDMI, do you use component? Or what?
  • Reply 305 of 410
    kotatsukotatsu Posts: 1,010member
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    Originally Posted by ggf View Post


    Seeing as toshiba is one of the largest selling brands of laptop I thought I would find out how many of the laptops in their current range can support 1920 by 1080 video which is the blue Ray standard. It turns out that the only ones that do are the qosmio range which is the high end (and expensive) gaming laptop segment. It seems these laptops have a maximum battery life of about an hour and 45 minutes when playing optical media. Not enough for avitar.



    Most planes, even in cattle class, have power points on every seat now, rendering any complaints about battery life totally irrelevant.
  • Reply 306 of 410
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    Originally Posted by dreyfus2 View Post


    But your logic is: if 0,3% of male human beings participate in constitutional rape at least once in their lifetime, we should castrate them all?.



    "Nope"
  • Reply 307 of 410
    tnsftnsf Posts: 203member
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    Originally Posted by Steve-J View Post


    Ah. I understand.



    But how do you hook up an iPad to a hotel room TV? Not HDMI, do you use component? Or what?



    Yes, I use the Apple Component AV Cable:



    http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB...co=MTA4NDc4Njc



    Same cable works on iPod Touch, iPhone and iPad. It is a little bulky though so I only take it on longer trips when I will be checking luggage.
  • Reply 308 of 410
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    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    The pro Blu-ray argument in notebooks is usually presented with the idea that anything less is too inferior for their viewing, yet these people never seem to realize that viewing Blu-ray on a little notebook display is inferior viewing. If these people really cared about the cinematic experience of Blu-ray they wouldn?t be watching on a computer, much less a notebook with a TN display on an airplane, they?d be watching in a real Home Theater setup.



    That's kind of the irony, isn't it? Microsoft's ad touts something that they don't even believe in. Microsoft believes in the "cloud" as the future of media distribution as much as Apple, Netflix, and Amazon Unbox, and Google does. They supported HD-DVD against Blu-Ray, and when HD-DVD died, they put their effort behind Xbox Live and Silverlight for HD content instead of Blu-Ray. And yet we still get this insipid Blu-Ray ad.



    P.S. I'm not against Blu-Ray. I own many and I think highly of the format and the high quality it delivers. I think Microsoft should stay on message instead of stabbing Blu-Ray in the back and then wrapping its arm around Blu-Ray and saying, "meet my buddy Blu-Ray. Windows 7 does Blu-Ray."
  • Reply 309 of 410
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    Originally Posted by jfanning View Post


    Have you ever looked for one? Because Dell sells them



    In all honesty, I hadn't, but I went to Dell's site as per your mention, and whaddya know? There it is! Of course, my statement was true when it was made: I was not aware of a laptop under 17" with full HD capability. Now I am. I love learning new things!



    But, I think most of the advantages of Blu-Ray—which, let's be honest, is best experienced in a home-theater environment, not on a laptop or even a desktop computer—are lost when scaled down to a laptop, even one with full HD video capability. Laptop speakers are just not up to snuff, and even if you use headphones, you're not getting true, rattle-your-ribcage, gazillion-channel surround sound. You simply can't get the home theater cinematic experience on a laptop.



    Hence, all this hubbub about Blu-Ray capable laptops, IMHO, is all sound and fury, signifying not very much.
  • Reply 310 of 410
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    Originally Posted by Futuristic View Post


    In all honesty, I hadn't, but I went to Dell's site as per your mention, and whaddya know? There it is!





    Hence, all this hubbub about Blu-Ray capable laptops, IMHO, is all sound and fury, signifying not very much.







    You missed at least 34 more.



    http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/la...~0~1053922&p=1
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    tnsftnsf Posts: 203member
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    Originally Posted by kotatsu View Post


    Most planes, even in cattle class, have power points on every seat now, rendering any complaints about battery life totally irrelevant.



    This is not true. I wish it was, but it just isn't yet. Especially with many ghetto US-based airlines. And its very common for there to be a shared outlet for a row of seats (for example, 3 seats, 1 outlet in the middle). Not ideal either.



    Also, why would anyone want to expect the need to charge or risk battery depletion? Why have a battery in the first place? Isn't the idea of having a battery that you don't need to be plugged in?
  • Reply 312 of 410
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    Originally Posted by Steve-J View Post


    All the experts agree that the minimum size necessary to see the difference is 55 inches.



    Unless you sit too close to the screen that is. Heck, hold an iP4 at 3 inches and you can see the pixels on that too.



    If you believe everything experts believe you have some serious problems. I can tell the difference on a 32" monitor.
  • Reply 313 of 410
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    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    Neither do I. Personally, I wish they would adopt it just to shut people up (though they?d surely bitch about the cost of the drives), but it won?t change my Mac buying habits, their stock price, or anything else. It?ll just be a mostly ignored option.



    That "mostly ignored option" possibility is precisely why Jobs doesn't want to put the things in Mac. Another issue is that people forget is unlike DVD Blu-Ray may not play right out of the box but need a firmware update. Avatar is one of the more well known movies with issues with that and while they quickly fixed the snafu it does show that Blu-Ray still needs a few bugs to be worked out.
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    jfanningjfanning Posts: 3,385member
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    Originally Posted by Maximara View Post


    That "mostly ignored option" possibility is precisely why Jobs doesn't want to put the things in Mac. Another issue is that people forget is unlike DVD Blu-Ray may not play right out of the box but need a firmware update. Avatar is one of the more well known movies with issues with that and while they quickly fixed the snafu it does show that Blu-Ray still needs a few bugs to be worked out.



    Wasn't the Avatar issue due to the fact that some of the CEs didn't implement the new BD+ version when it was introduced? Sure you can scream about how bad DRM is until you are blue in the face, but the same situation would hit Apple in any area if they didn't implement something in time. Java on OSX is an example, Apple said they were implementing Java behind the offical releases causing incompatibilies.
  • Reply 315 of 410
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    Originally Posted by Steve-J View Post


    You missed at least 34 more.



    http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/la...~0~1053922&p=1



    To compare Apple with Dell computers is beyond silly.



    And you guys know it.
  • Reply 316 of 410
    jfanningjfanning Posts: 3,385member
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    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post


    To compare Apple with Dell computers is beyond silly.



    And you guys know it.



    I reponded to a message saying "I'm not aware of any laptop under 17" that has a resolution 1920x1080 or higher." Can you please tell me where it says "only apple" in there?
  • Reply 317 of 410
    I have Blu-ray on my iMac and MacBook Pro. I just bought a $109 Blu-ray Burner, and a $11 SATA to USB adapter. (I got a Blu-ray reader for $75 at a local store too).



    Apparently Mac OS X does know what a BD Disc is. Blank ones look like CDs or DVDs, it just says "BD" on the disc icon.



    I've also made a blu-ray disc with a great football game I recorded with a DVR. I cut out the commercials and the m2ts file is one of the formats allowed on a blu-ray disc (along with H.264 and VC-1). I didn't even have to re-encode, the 2 hour 39 minute (without commercials) game was burned in 34 minutes.



    I have also encoded several Blu-ray discs to .mp4 and .m4v files. (I own all the Blu-ray Discs, so nothing illegal). I can play them fine on the Mac and the iPhone 4 (re-encoded to 720p). I play the movies on my small 21.5" 1080p display attached to my 27" iMac while I'm working sometimes.



    Isn't it rare for a PC to have Blu-ray capability anyway? Only the most expensive PCs have it?
  • Reply 318 of 410
    chris_cachris_ca Posts: 2,543member
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    Originally Posted by justflybob View Post


    I was lucky enough to have only streamed that one through Netflix via my 2nd gen AppleTV.

    I was expecting something more along the lines of the Transporter series. What I got was part low brow humor, part Tarantino, part Scarface, part every stereotype you could or could not imagine, and part porno!



    Which is exactly what it was supposed to be.
  • Reply 319 of 410
    Why is there continued debate over this? Macs will never come with Blu ray because they don't need to. Apple has decided it is pointless to include it. And the market has proven them exactly right. In 2010 and beyond, it no longer makes any difference when MS attacks Apple over anything, for the simple reason that no one is paying attention.



    This is a non-story, but for the hilarity that MS touts as a feature something they recently declared themselves against publicly. More proof that this out-of-touch, interminably slow sloth of a company needs a total reset of their entire consumer business.
  • Reply 320 of 410
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    Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post


    Why is there continued debate over this?





    This is why.




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