...... I want a real competitor out there so Apple is forced to look ahead, and move ahead instead of sitting on it's ass until some real competition does catch up....
You obviously have not been following Apple with open eyes over the years since Steve Jobs took over again .... or else you would have noticed that Apple only competes and compares itself to the best.... not the rest. Apples competition is with Apple itself! They are constantly trying to improve on the quality of the entire company and product/service line. That's why they're miles ahead of the rest of the industry. While everyone else is looking to compete on price .... Apple prefers to compete on customer satisfaction with all of its product line.
This is not rocket science ... where a company puts its focus is where it will usually perform best. Why the rest of the industry and people like you cannot understand it is beyond me. I guess it's only because that method of running a company seems to be the exception, rather than the rule ..... and that is reflected in the sad state of our manufacturing industry, as a whole.
Don't worry about Apple ... they have a strategy ... and they are executing it perfectly ... regardless of their competition.
PS .... If it seems like I'm "picking" on your post .. I apologize ... I don't mean anything personal .... it's just that I get tired of hearing that "Apple needs the competition" to keep getting better .... which seems to be a reoccurring theme here on these boards lately.
RIM keeps talking about how fabulous the playbook and how it's better than anything else as if it's "real". It won't become "real" until it becomes an actual shipping product and people start buying them. Until then it's merely a pipe dream, vapor-ware.
In the extremely limited demos, the Playbook looks pretty decent, but there are far too many unanswered questions and frankly it looks half-baked to me. It looks unfinished because it is unfinished. RIM is touting the device as if it's a shipping product that is selling like hotcakes.
Why? It's a lame attempt to get a few tablet buyers to wait while they try to figure out how to get it right. Hopefully they learned from the Storm fiasco, releasing a far-from-ready product can have disastrous results.
The Playbook may turn out to be all that and a bag of chips as RIM would have us believe, but I'll wait for an actual shipping product. Let the consumers decide what is truth and what is fiction where the Playbook is concerned.
Personally, I see nothing in the Playbook that sets the world on fire or warrants waiting to "maybe" get one one day soon, but that's just me.
Is RIM becoming the Venezuela of the mobile technology industry ...?
This is what happens when a company can't even decide on a CEO ..... two CEO's ?? wtf .... the devilish duo ? Rim is fast becoming a company "run by committee" .... and we all know how that turned out for the horse.
So, if ONE analyst asserts something about a competing product, it's taken by AI and the Apple community as pure fact. But if an analyst says something negative about an Apple product, AI will go all out to disparage that analyst and just gloss over what that analyst might have said...I'm pretty sure at this point, AI runs it's original stories through Apple's PR department for approval before posting them...
For a community that is the #1 leader in the tablet area right now, why do we constantly feel the need to try and take shots at competitors? I don't walk around shoving my iPad in people's faces to show it off and this constant bashing of competitors is getting a little tiring. I for one, hope the Play Book is every bit as good as the iPad...Not that there is a good chance of that but I want a real competitor out there so Apple is forced to look ahead, and move ahead instead of sitting on it's ass until some real competition does catch up....
I imagine that the only web site you read is AI, or you would know that every other website has also discussed this.
Well, to be fair, having a tablet that can't run apps other than a web-browser would be a redefinition of what a tablet can do -- kind of like having a car that can only drive in reverse would be a redefinition of what a car can do.
Like Chrome OS, only without the netbook configuration.
I bet you they're waiting for Apple's iPad2 to be announced before they can then quickly "tweak" the PlayBook to be "competitive" with the iPad2.
Well, if they can actually accomplish that, more power to them. Don't think that's wise or likely, though. With a year's lead time, the new iPad will be better engineered than anyone else can recreate in a month or two. They're gunning at a fast-moving target.
I wonder how they define "comparable battery life"?
Hope they are not digging their own grave!
It could be comparable to Windows 7 tablets. In other words, 3 to 4 hours. Hp claims "up to 5 hours" for the 500. but "up to" numbers are always optimistic. The Archos 9, which Consumers Reports included in their new issue, which has a section reviewing tablets, is getting 3. Apple offers a flat out "ten hours playing video". That's been confirmed. The Samsung has been shown to have 6 to 6.5 hours.
Guess you're retarded to not know tablets run on Andriod not Chrome. and guess you'll probably buy 3 for each of your family members just like DaHarder. 1 for them to use on the couch, 1 for the bedside table, and 1 to keep in the car
In case you didn't notice, they paid off their bailout loans. People will still point to this as proof of how much of a far left socialist communist marxist muslim terrorist Obama is though...
It could be comparable to Windows 7 tablets. In other words, 3 to 4 hours. Hp claims "up to 5 hours" for the 500. but "up to" numbers are always optimistic. The Archos 9, which Consumers Reports included in their new issue, which has a section reviewing tablets, is getting 3. Apple offers a flat out "ten hours playing video". That's been confirmed. The Samsung has been shown to have 6 to 6.5 hours.
Makes you wonder what iPad mk2 will offer for battery life, I wonder if they will top 10 hours?
Wait a second, WebOS was a good OS though. Palm's failure came in the form of a lack of proper advertisement. They really mucked things up with that creepy redhead with the bee stings.
What you had with Palm was a last ditch effort with all resources directed to a new OS, and they succeeded here, but were left with not enough resources to sell it. HP has those resources though.
I didn't find WebOS to be that good because it wasn't discoverable. There were too many things you had to know about it first, before you used it. Major functions. Like swiping below the screen. I think that people picked it up in the phone store, couldn't figure out how to use it, put it back, and went to buy something else.
Apple has changed the perceptions of how we use our phones. All my previous smartphones needed a very big manual. If you need one now, your product isn't going to sell. Expectations have changed.
This is what happens when a company can't even decide on a CEO ..... two CEO's ?? wtf .... the devilish duo ? Rim is fast becoming a company "run by committee" .... and we all know how that turned out for the horse.
Those two guys founded the company, so I guess they have equal authority.
Makes you wonder what iPad mk2 will offer for battery life, I wonder if they will top 10 hours?
I've been wondering that as well. The new 2 core chips are said to use, on average, less power than the single core chips of the current generation. how much of a difference isn't specified, but I don't think it would make much difference. According to jobs, when speaking to Mossberg, the A4 "sips" power. It's mostly in the screen. The 3G takes some too, because that model is rated for 9 hours.
We don't know which, if any of the rumors are true, so it's hard to tell where Apple's going with this. If they do go with a thinner model, as we've read, then bigger batteries are out of the question. They would need a more efficient backlight. It just so happens that Apple recently got a patent on just such a technology, which would also allow for a thinner screen and backlight, but it may be too early to use it. But, who knows?
If Apple somehow got the life to 12 hours, all bets would be off. As it is, Apple has a big advantage over other companies with their owning the Os, and many years of experience working on cpus and chipsets, and then acquiring two companies in that field.
The advantage is that Apple has been working on power management for portable devices for OS X since 1998. They've likely been working on it for handhelds since sometime 2004, as the iPad was a project before the iPhone. As OS X is fairly compartmentalized, it's been easy to pick and choose what parts they need for iOS. Couple that to your own work on the chip, and who else can match that?
Since all the drivers are outside the kernel, they can kill them whenever they want (and restart them when they are needed). They don't have to just to kill the backlight of the LCD screen to save power, they can kill the whole video driver and turn everything off. You touch the bazel or touch the screen, QNX restarts the video driver.
Hummm... I thought Canadians were actually smarter than average, generally, but it seems like they actually need the same lessons in PLAYBACK of digital recordings or of ANYTHING that gets posted on computers in one place being available in other places.. amazing how that whole network thing works...
So RIM - HERE - is saying "No worries about battery life - we're fine and even better than everyone else"... Well, take a brief moment to go half-way around the planet (sure better than flying) and get the word - on the SAME SUBJECT - from say, the Australians..
You's see the following headline "BlackBerry PlayBook may be tossed due to poor 'two to four hour' battery life"... curious how that's EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE what RIM are saying in this hemisphere... WHO'S LYING???
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...... I want a real competitor out there so Apple is forced to look ahead, and move ahead instead of sitting on it's ass until some real competition does catch up....
You obviously have not been following Apple with open eyes over the years since Steve Jobs took over again .... or else you would have noticed that Apple only competes and compares itself to the best.... not the rest. Apples competition is with Apple itself! They are constantly trying to improve on the quality of the entire company and product/service line. That's why they're miles ahead of the rest of the industry. While everyone else is looking to compete on price .... Apple prefers to compete on customer satisfaction with all of its product line.
This is not rocket science ... where a company puts its focus is where it will usually perform best. Why the rest of the industry and people like you cannot understand it is beyond me. I guess it's only because that method of running a company seems to be the exception, rather than the rule ..... and that is reflected in the sad state of our manufacturing industry, as a whole.
Don't worry about Apple ... they have a strategy ... and they are executing it perfectly ... regardless of their competition.
PS .... If it seems like I'm "picking" on your post .. I apologize ... I don't mean anything personal .... it's just that I get tired of hearing that "Apple needs the competition" to keep getting better .... which seems to be a reoccurring theme here on these boards lately.
In the extremely limited demos, the Playbook looks pretty decent, but there are far too many unanswered questions and frankly it looks half-baked to me. It looks unfinished because it is unfinished. RIM is touting the device as if it's a shipping product that is selling like hotcakes.
Why? It's a lame attempt to get a few tablet buyers to wait while they try to figure out how to get it right. Hopefully they learned from the Storm fiasco, releasing a far-from-ready product can have disastrous results.
The Playbook may turn out to be all that and a bag of chips as RIM would have us believe, but I'll wait for an actual shipping product. Let the consumers decide what is truth and what is fiction where the Playbook is concerned.
Personally, I see nothing in the Playbook that sets the world on fire or warrants waiting to "maybe" get one one day soon, but that's just me.
Is RIM becoming the Venezuela of the mobile technology industry ...?
This is what happens when a company can't even decide on a CEO ..... two CEO's ?? wtf .... the devilish duo ? Rim is fast becoming a company "run by committee" .... and we all know how that turned out for the horse.
It's got to be reworked for the hardware.
So, if ONE analyst asserts something about a competing product, it's taken by AI and the Apple community as pure fact. But if an analyst says something negative about an Apple product, AI will go all out to disparage that analyst and just gloss over what that analyst might have said...I'm pretty sure at this point, AI runs it's original stories through Apple's PR department for approval before posting them...
For a community that is the #1 leader in the tablet area right now, why do we constantly feel the need to try and take shots at competitors? I don't walk around shoving my iPad in people's faces to show it off and this constant bashing of competitors is getting a little tiring. I for one, hope the Play Book is every bit as good as the iPad...Not that there is a good chance of that but I want a real competitor out there so Apple is forced to look ahead, and move ahead instead of sitting on it's ass until some real competition does catch up....
I imagine that the only web site you read is AI, or you would know that every other website has also discussed this.
Well, to be fair, having a tablet that can't run apps other than a web-browser would be a redefinition of what a tablet can do -- kind of like having a car that can only drive in reverse would be a redefinition of what a car can do.
Like Chrome OS, only without the netbook configuration.
I bet you they're waiting for Apple's iPad2 to be announced before they can then quickly "tweak" the PlayBook to be "competitive" with the iPad2.
Well, if they can actually accomplish that, more power to them. Don't think that's wise or likely, though. With a year's lead time, the new iPad will be better engineered than anyone else can recreate in a month or two. They're gunning at a fast-moving target.
I wonder how they define "comparable battery life"?
Hope they are not digging their own grave!
It could be comparable to Windows 7 tablets. In other words, 3 to 4 hours. Hp claims "up to 5 hours" for the 500. but "up to" numbers are always optimistic. The Archos 9, which Consumers Reports included in their new issue, which has a section reviewing tablets, is getting 3. Apple offers a flat out "ten hours playing video". That's been confirmed. The Samsung has been shown to have 6 to 6.5 hours.
Top 10 Reasons Why You Need to Be Investing in the App Revolution
http://blogs.marketwatch.com/cody/20.../?mod=yahoo_hs
I can think of at least 3 people who need to read this article!
Guess you're retarded to not know tablets run on Andriod not Chrome. and guess you'll probably buy 3 for each of your family members just like DaHarder. 1 for them to use on the couch, 1 for the bedside table, and 1 to keep in the car
No name calling please!
Pull up the keyboard and type in the first letters of the app then select it. Quicker than paging though my 7 pages of folders and sub folders.
Didn't know I could do that until my 10 y.o. son showed me.
No sub folders are allowed.
In case you didn't notice, they paid off their bailout loans. People will still point to this as proof of how much of a far left socialist communist marxist muslim terrorist Obama is though...
Not "people" just Foxbots
One thing I've actually grown to admire about Apple is the fact that they don't release statements about products they're developing.
Heh!
They don't release statements about products they developed either, until it's ready.
It could be comparable to Windows 7 tablets. In other words, 3 to 4 hours. Hp claims "up to 5 hours" for the 500. but "up to" numbers are always optimistic. The Archos 9, which Consumers Reports included in their new issue, which has a section reviewing tablets, is getting 3. Apple offers a flat out "ten hours playing video". That's been confirmed. The Samsung has been shown to have 6 to 6.5 hours.
Makes you wonder what iPad mk2 will offer for battery life, I wonder if they will top 10 hours?
Interesting article on the future of apps:
Top 10 Reasons Why You Need to Be Investing in the App Revolution
http://blogs.marketwatch.com/cody/20.../?mod=yahoo_hs
I can think of at least 3 people who need to read this article!
How many of them are “dual-core” CEOs?
Wait a second, WebOS was a good OS though. Palm's failure came in the form of a lack of proper advertisement. They really mucked things up with that creepy redhead with the bee stings.
What you had with Palm was a last ditch effort with all resources directed to a new OS, and they succeeded here, but were left with not enough resources to sell it. HP has those resources though.
I didn't find WebOS to be that good because it wasn't discoverable. There were too many things you had to know about it first, before you used it. Major functions. Like swiping below the screen. I think that people picked it up in the phone store, couldn't figure out how to use it, put it back, and went to buy something else.
Apple has changed the perceptions of how we use our phones. All my previous smartphones needed a very big manual. If you need one now, your product isn't going to sell. Expectations have changed.
This is what happens when a company can't even decide on a CEO ..... two CEO's ?? wtf .... the devilish duo ? Rim is fast becoming a company "run by committee" .... and we all know how that turned out for the horse.
Those two guys founded the company, so I guess they have equal authority.
Makes you wonder what iPad mk2 will offer for battery life, I wonder if they will top 10 hours?
I've been wondering that as well. The new 2 core chips are said to use, on average, less power than the single core chips of the current generation. how much of a difference isn't specified, but I don't think it would make much difference. According to jobs, when speaking to Mossberg, the A4 "sips" power. It's mostly in the screen. The 3G takes some too, because that model is rated for 9 hours.
We don't know which, if any of the rumors are true, so it's hard to tell where Apple's going with this. If they do go with a thinner model, as we've read, then bigger batteries are out of the question. They would need a more efficient backlight. It just so happens that Apple recently got a patent on just such a technology, which would also allow for a thinner screen and backlight, but it may be too early to use it. But, who knows?
If Apple somehow got the life to 12 hours, all bets would be off. As it is, Apple has a big advantage over other companies with their owning the Os, and many years of experience working on cpus and chipsets, and then acquiring two companies in that field.
The advantage is that Apple has been working on power management for portable devices for OS X since 1998. They've likely been working on it for handhelds since sometime 2004, as the iPad was a project before the iPhone. As OS X is fairly compartmentalized, it's been easy to pick and choose what parts they need for iOS. Couple that to your own work on the chip, and who else can match that?
^^ Deserves some sort of award.
Actually, QNX did win an award for power management.
http://www.qnx.com/news/pr_832_1.html
Since all the drivers are outside the kernel, they can kill them whenever they want (and restart them when they are needed). They don't have to just to kill the backlight of the LCD screen to save power, they can kill the whole video driver and turn everything off. You touch the bazel or touch the screen, QNX restarts the video driver.
So RIM - HERE - is saying "No worries about battery life - we're fine and even better than everyone else"... Well, take a brief moment to go half-way around the planet (sure better than flying) and get the word - on the SAME SUBJECT - from say, the Australians..
You's see the following headline "BlackBerry PlayBook may be tossed due to poor 'two to four hour' battery life"... curious how that's EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE what RIM are saying in this hemisphere... WHO'S LYING???
http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/t...230-19ai1.html