Verizon leak shows Motorola's iPad challenger priced at $799

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  • Reply 161 of 191
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by derekmorr View Post


    Name one. Aside from Angry Birds (an issue that appeared to be due to sloppy code), I haven't heard of any.



    Gameloft's advent calendar promotion had a few, so much so they had to redirect users to their site so they could establish their phone models and provide different versions.



    How many applications can you store on a 1.X device vs a 2.2 device given that you need 2.X to store applications on the memory card.



    What about Adobe Flash 10.1 and Air don't they require 2.2?



    In our store we have SonyEricsson X10 and X10 Mini Pro's with 1.6, they can be updated to 2.1 but most of the one's we see with issues haven't been updated, the update isn't available yet for phone's sold under the 3 brand, to update them you must use a Windows PC.



    The Galaxy S' we have in stock are at 2.1, Desire HD's 2.2, old stock of Legends are at 2.1, new stock 2.2, the Ideos with 2.2 has a 320x240 screen, the Motorola Flipout has 2.1, the Milestone 2, 2.2.



    Fragmentation in our storeroom.



    Then theres the fandroid's whine about iTunes, iTunes is bliss compared to kies
  • Reply 162 of 191
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
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    Originally Posted by Stourque View Post


    Perhaps you could explain that in 5000 words or less.



    I think you start by getting rid of the locked bootloaders Motorola likes using.



    It's exactly the same thing as jailbreaking an iPhone, due to the sheer awesomeness of Apple, rooting iOS devices gets it's own term and once again redefines the English language.
  • Reply 163 of 191
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    Originally Posted by kingsmuse View Post


    I don`t see why everyone seems to find this too expensive.



    It`s only $70 more than the closest comparable iPad with what seems to be superior specs and abilities.



    Honeycomb looks sweet and this thing can do things the first gen iPad can`t.



    Apple better come up with something good in the second gen iPad.



    Maybe you don't understand. This thing is pure vapor, and we know that the iPad 2 will blow it away. The iPad 2 will also blow away every other tablet computer, most of which are now just vapor.



    And besides, Apple will never sacrifice for mere specs. That is why they advertise a 10 hour battery life, because some things are more important than specs.
  • Reply 164 of 191
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by HahaHaha321 View Post


    Sorry for making a suggestion to the oh-so-holy Apple Inc.



    It is truly painful to watch someone with no self-respect continue this way.



    Please stop. Really.
  • Reply 165 of 191
    sdbryansdbryan Posts: 318member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by HahaHaha321 View Post


    The difference is that this tablet will only have a 3G model at launch with Wi-Fi-only coming later. You'll need a contract, just like the 3G iPad..



    No, you don't need a contract to use a 3G iPad and still have internet access. The 3G iPad comes with wifi. If wifi does not suffice you can get 3G connectivity on a month to month basis for a relatively low cost. I would hope competing tablets would have similar flexibility but who knows?
  • Reply 166 of 191
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SomeCallMe...Tim View Post


    And besides, Apple will never sacrifice for mere specs. That is why they advertise a 10 hour battery life, because some things are more important than specs.



    Isn't that a spec?
  • Reply 167 of 191
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,660member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    Isn't that a spec?



    Pssst...... not a real person. Just a collection of compulsive trolling tics.
  • Reply 168 of 191
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post


    That's the first SQL joke I've seen



    I think he/she is also darhader or whatever it calls itself.



    Here is another:

    Select count(*)

    from world_population

    where nbr_of_braincells is null;



    > result = hahaha/darhader/techstud
  • Reply 169 of 191
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    Originally Posted by HahaHaha321 View Post


    Are people that paranoid that not only do they not think I own anything Apple, but now that I'm someone else in disguise? Seriously? Guess what, I'm not. I own many Apple products, and just because I'm not someone who isn't blindly obsessed by them and trash every other product on the market, I'm not a "true" Apple fan? And guess what else, Android is selling well so they must be doing something right. But fanboys will only believe that's becausse they've been "copying" Apple. The people on this website are so arrogant, from the authors of the articles to the blinded commentors. Why do you think so many people dislike Apple? It's not the products, it's the terrible behavior of the people who use them. Ever think of that? But no, people on this website always have something arrogant or rude to add and they think everybody else is wrong. It's disgusting.



    But I'm okay with all these consipricies. Because I do realize that the people doing so have nothing better to do.



    You, my friend are one of the rudest on this site.

    I don't agree that people hate Apple because of their fans/supporters, they hate Apple because nearly every media outlet is anti-Apple, and why is this so? It's because of a company called Microsoft that has the money and lobbying power to do so.

    So tell people enough times, then they will believe it.

    We Apple fans are over-exuberant because at long last we are top dog, and the general public loves Apple at long last.

    I don't think we are arrogant or nasty, it's just we know we are onto a good thing and would like to educate the ignorant that the grass is really greener over here.

    Is this so bad. I don't walk around at work and shout Apple slogans or worship SJ, I worshiappreciate but I appreciate what he and others have achieved at Apple.

    You cannot deny how good Apple is.

    Generally speaking most of the other tech is okay, it's not top notch like Apple's but it gets the job done. Its just that the underlying architecture/coding and marketing sucks.

    Selling your soul to the devil, aka carriers aso doesn't help.

    They all can't be like Apple.
  • Reply 170 of 191
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    Originally Posted by White Rabbit View Post


    I think he/she is also darhader or whatever it calls itself.



    Here is another:

    Select count(*)

    from world_population

    where nbr_of_braincells is null;



    > result = hahaha/darhader/techstud



    Wouldn't the result be 3?



    SELECT screenName...



    would give the result you show.
  • Reply 171 of 191
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    Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post


    Wouldn't the result be 3?

    SELECT screenName...

    would give the result you show.



    *chuckles*
  • Reply 172 of 191
    xsuxsu Posts: 401member
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    Originally Posted by derekmorr View Post


    What's your evidence that people don't upgrade?



    And if that's the case, then it's an argument against the alleged horrors of fragmentation.





    When people upgrade their computer's OS, they don't have to fear losing the warranty on their hardware. NOT so when you root your Android or jailbreak your iOS device. Besides, most people can deal with a failed computer upgrade that brick their system for a few days, but not with a phone that they need to use everyday.
  • Reply 173 of 191
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    Originally Posted by xsu View Post


    Besides, most people can deal with a failed computer upgrade that brick their system for a few days, but not with a phone that they need to use everyday.



    Restoring to stock firmware takes five minutes. Anyone who calls will call back.
  • Reply 174 of 191
    hirohiro Posts: 2,663member
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    Originally Posted by derekmorr View Post


    Huh? The Tweetdeck developers specifically said that developing for Android wasn't a problem : http://www.businessinsider.com/tweet...e-jobs-2010-10.







    You don't know what you're talking about. No one "broke" anything from 2.1 to 2.2, and the Google Search app is present. You're talking about Voice Actions.



    The article you linked to is very poorly written and the author clearly doesn't understand how to use his phone. If you want to install a new search widget, for say, Bing or Yahoo, all you have to do is download it from the Market. To change the default search engine in the browser, go to Menu -> More -> Settings and scroll to the bottom. There's an entry labeled "Set search engine."



    You go right on believing both of those. You completely missed the boat on the first. Words saying "no problem", followed by an explanation of why development took linger than expected with over 149 HW/SW pairs to QA isn't exactly telling the same story. That's known as unsuccessfully trying to paper over the gap.



    You are simply factually incorrect on the second, unless you mean there is a Google Search app today, which there is, but it was off the store for several weeks. I wasn't talking about Google Voice at all, that's a second issue unrelated to a proper fragmentation discussion.
  • Reply 175 of 191
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    Originally Posted by Hiro View Post


    You go right on believing both of those. You completely missed the boat on the first. Words saying "no problem", followed by an explanation of why development took linger than expected with over 149 HW/SW pairs to QA isn't exactly telling the same story.



    What are you talking about? The TweetDeck developers explicitly said that developing for Android was not a problem. It seems that you're misrepresenting what they said.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hiro View Post


    You are simply factually incorrect on the second, unless you mean there is a Google Search app today, which there is, but it was off the store for several weeks. I wasn't talking about Google Voice at all, that's a second issue unrelated to a proper fragmentation discussion.



    You claimed Google "broke something fundamental between 2.1 and 2.2," and that "[t]hey had to fragment their flagship app just to get it to run." Nothing was broken. The Google Search app was part of the Android project. Some carriers stripped that app out on their Android phones, so Google broke it out into a separate app. This also lets it be updated out-of-sync with the OS. Google has done the same thing with many other Android apps, including Car Home, Market, Maps, and Voice Actions, to name a few. How does this constitute breaking something, or fragmenting it? If anything, it would reduce fragmentation, since more people can update the apps sooner.
  • Reply 176 of 191
    hirohiro Posts: 2,663member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by derekmorr View Post


    What are you talking about? The TweetDeck developers explicitly said that developing for Android was not a problem. It seems that you're misrepresenting what they said.







    You claimed Google "broke something fundamental between 2.1 and 2.2," and that "[t]hey had to fragment their flagship app just to get it to run." Nothing was broken. The Google Search app was part of the Android project. Some carriers stripped that app out on their Android phones, so Google broke it out into a separate app. This also lets it be updated out-of-sync with the OS. Google has done the same thing with many other Android apps, including Car Home, Market, Maps, and Voice Actions, to name a few. How does this constitute breaking something, or fragmenting it? If anything, it would reduce fragmentation, since more people can update the apps sooner.



    We can lead them to water, but we cannot make them drink.



    http://blog.tweetdeck.com/android-ecosystem

    Quote:

    Android Ecosystem Infoporn Overload



    As we bring our initial Android TweetDeck beta period to a close, we wanted to quickly reflect on the Android ecosystem and what might be considered extreme fragmentation. To date we've had 36,427 active beta testers and below you can see the massive variety of phones and Android OS versions everyone is running. We were really shocked to see the number of custom roms, crazy phones and general level of customization/hackalicious nature of Android. From our perspective it's pretty cool to have our app work on such a wide variety of devices and Android OS variations.



  • Reply 177 of 191
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hiro View Post


    We can lead them to water, but we cannot make them drink.



    http://blog.tweetdeck.com/android-ecosystem



    Your reading comprehension skills are seriously lacking.



    From the article you linked to: "what might be considered extreme fragmentation."



    Here is their comment on their actual experiences developing for Android: Did we at any point say it was a nightmare developing on Android? Err nope, no we didn?t. It wasn?t.



    So, despite the appearance of fragmentation, it wasn't difficult for them to develop their Android app. Do you get that now, or do I have to repeat myself for a third time?
  • Reply 178 of 191
    hirohiro Posts: 2,663member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by derekmorr View Post


    Your reading comprehension skills are seriously lacking.



    From the article you linked to: "what might be considered extreme fragmentation."



    Here is their comment on their actual experiences developing for Android: Did we at any point say it was a nightmare developing on Android? Err nope, no we didn?t. It wasn?t.



    So, despite the appearance of fragmentation, it wasn't difficult for them to develop their Android app. Do you get that now, or do I have to repeat myself for a third time?



    Go ahead and say it for the third time. Make yourself believe. The Party would love your blind acceptance of doublespeak.
  • Reply 179 of 191
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hiro View Post


    Go ahead and say it for the third time. Make yourself believe. The Party would love your blind acceptance of doublespeak.



    You really are crazy. The Tweetdeck for Android app runs on any device with 1.6 or higher; that's 95.3% of all Android phones, using Google's current data. It's rated 4.5 stars on the market. How is that possibly an example of fragmentation causing problems?



    You're just so convinced that this alleged fragmentation is causing problems that you ignore the evidence to the contrary.
  • Reply 180 of 191
    hirohiro Posts: 2,663member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by derekmorr View Post


    You really are crazy. The Tweetdeck for Android app runs on any device with 1.6 or higher; that's 95.3% of all Android phones, using Google's current data. It's rated 4.5 stars on the market. How is that possibly an example of fragmentation causing problems?



    You're just so convinced that this alleged fragmentation is causing problems that you ignore the evidence to the contrary.



    And how many special case HW/SW pair specific statements switches are in there? At least 100+ and growing. That's how it works and the tight definition to the rest of the developing world as a nightmare.



    The mere fact you didn't know best practices of EXACTLY how HW/SW pair specific differences are handled indicated you are unqualified to make technical judgments on the topic. This is like second day on the first coding job stuff here.



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