The Mag Connector with built-in Light Peak is brilliant. Apple has never been big on docking stations... With this combo they've obsoleted everyone else's. Remember, Light Peaknsupports multiple protocols on one wire.
You could have a simple wall powerr plug that comes up to a small breakout box with pwr converter, 2 USB, 2 light peak, a FireWire and an hdmi connector.... And a single skinny wire that connects to your MacBook. Only one port on the Mac for everything.
You could leave peripherals connected to the power/breakout module at work and home and just connect the Mag Connector to your MacBook.
Looks like the strange extra little port seen on iPad 2 cases is gonna be a new light peak connector. Even more cool is it will be a combination MagSafe power connector. This new MagSafe light peak connector would then appear on all the new iOS products and eventually when light peak becomes widely available on computers they can safely lose the old dock connector.
Nice dream but I don't see it happening on the iPad 2 (which sounds more like an iPad 1.5 with 2 coming this fall). I think this will probably show up on the Mac Pro, the MBP, MB then iPad/iPhone. It does kinda depend on how well Intel has implemented this (ideally as part of a processor) and if not a single chip (as opposed to a set i.e., like they have done with SATA, GUI, Mem Ctrl, FP, etc... which all started life as add-ons). What would be really great but much less likely would be something that could be licensed and included in SoC like the A5 maybe (might as well dream big, if I am gonna dream at all). Has Intel ever produced a chip or chip set that they then licensed to allow it to be included on someone else's product (not talking technology or patent licensing here but actual die)?
I hate to use the line from Philadelphia, but would somebody please explain this to me like I'm a 4 year old?
Right now on, say, the tower Mac, I would have a power cord, the GbE cord, the HDMI/DP cord to the monitor, and cord to the analog speakers, and some USB cords (external HDD, KB/mouse). If the KB/mouse is BT, then I don't even have that. How, exactly, does "LightPeak" or any other connector reduce this?
Can I eliminate power cable? No
Can it replace the Ethernet? No - unless there is some adapter in my wall.
Can it replace the monitor cable and maybe a USB cable to the monitor for expansion? Yes.
Can it replace the speaker wire? No - unless there is an adapter to my speakers.
Can it replace the USB to external HDD? No.
So, I still have a bunch of wires, except maybe I reduced one with a new "unified" cable to my monitor.
I'm not seeing the value here, folks. And it makes even less sense for an iMac. If the iMac is connected to the internet via WiFi and KB/mouse via BT, then I only have a power cord, and maybe a USB cable to an external HDD for time machine. Can't replace those.
In a laptop, at best I get something that combines monitor and USB.
The whole thing makes no sense from a unification of cables. At best, it allows some things to be faster. So, LP as an alternative to USB3 or eSata, maybe.
I hate to use the line from Philadelphia, but would somebody please explain this to me like I'm a 4 year old?
Right now on, say, the tower Mac, I would have a power cord, the GbE cord, the HDMI/DP cord to the monitor, and cord to the analog speakers, and some USB cords (external HDD, KB/mouse). If the KB/mouse is BT, then I don't even have that. How, exactly, does "LightPeak" or any other connector reduce this?
Can I eliminate power cable? No
Can it replace the Ethernet? No - unless there is some adapter in my wall.
Can it replace the monitor cable and maybe a USB cable to the monitor for expansion? Yes.
Can it replace the speaker wire? No - unless there is an adapter to my speakers.
Can it replace the USB to external HDD? No.
So, I still have a bunch of wires, except maybe I reduced one with a new "unified" cable to my monitor.
I'm not seeing the value here, folks. And it makes even less sense for an iMac. If the iMac is connected to the internet via WiFi and KB/mouse via BT, then I only have a power cord, and maybe a USB cable to an external HDD for time machine. Can't replace those.
In a laptop, at best I get something that combines monitor and USB.
The whole thing makes no sense from a unification of cables. At best, it allows some things to be faster. So, LP as an alternative to USB3 or eSata, maybe.
What am I missing?
You?ve thought up the most convoluted and complex option and then said this just work work. When you think of ?why? you should think about it from the perspective of those creating it. That may mean thinking outside your comfort zone.
Mac notebook users that also have their LED Cinema Display this would be great. That is ONE cable with multiple connectors. This isn?t bad, but it could be better. Having ONE cable with only ONE port would make this much easier to connect and disconnect.
Also note that optical cabling will be the standard one day, but it also needs to supply power (the downfall of eSATA). For this to happen it needs to have copper. This is also true of Apple?s 30-pin connector. Even thought LightPeak is protocol agnostic both devices need to understand the physical medium involved. This means a change from copper to optical, and this will not be a fast or smooth transition unless there is cable that offers optical, copper for signaling and copper for power into the same connector.
The article is counted as #1 in the forums, so your replies are actually thirteenth and twentieth. I believe the internet phrase I'm supposed to insert here is: FAIL!
There was an article some time ago about the first revision using copper instead of fibre. If that's true it would explain the need for not using "Light Peak."
If you look at the side of the current Macbook Pro, the Ethernet connector is the single thickest connector on it. With Apple's current focus on thinness at all costs, that connector is most likely the first to get replaced by a combined optical port.
If you look at the side of the current Macbook Pro, the Ethernet connector is the single thickest connector on it. With Apple's current focus on thinness at all costs, that connector is most likely the first to get replaced by a combined optical port.
Or just some special port that is copper but allows for multiple connection types to be used… like LightPeak. Sell an adapter for Gb Ethernet and you’re set. People will complain that they have to use an adapter but I haven’t use Ethernet in years on MBPs. I’ve used an optical drive more recently than Ethernet. I bet the average consumer isn’t plugging their notebook into Ethernet at home either.
Is this an open standard? Proprietary to Intel under license to Apple? Wasn't Firewire an Apple moniker for an open standard that it spearheaded that Sony also adopted and called i.Link? Would this be the same sort of thing but with Intel being the spearhead?
Ha! You beat me to the punch. That's my fav, for some reason. Rolls right off the tongue.
A full-length Blu-Ray movie could transfer over Light Peak in less than 30 seconds, Intel states on its website.
Good luck trying to find a hard drive that can write it to memory that fast. I suppose if you had enough RAM you might be able to get it to transfer that fast.
Good luck trying to find a hard drive that can write it to memory that fast. I suppose if you had enough RAM you might be able to get it to transfer that fast.
I hate to use the line from Philadelphia, but would somebody please explain this to me like I'm a 4 year old?
Right now on, say, the tower Mac, I would have a power cord, the GbE cord, the HDMI/DP cord to the monitor, and cord to the analog speakers, and some USB cords (external HDD, KB/mouse). If the KB/mouse is BT, then I don't even have that. How, exactly, does "LightPeak" or any other connector reduce this?
Can I eliminate power cable? No
Can it replace the Ethernet? No - unless there is some adapter in my wall.
Can it replace the monitor cable and maybe a USB cable to the monitor for expansion? Yes.
Can it replace the speaker wire? No - unless there is an adapter to my speakers.
Can it replace the USB to external HDD? No.
So, I still have a bunch of wires, except maybe I reduced one with a new "unified" cable to my monitor.
I'm not seeing the value here, folks. And it makes even less sense for an iMac. If the iMac is connected to the internet via WiFi and KB/mouse via BT, then I only have a power cord, and maybe a USB cable to an external HDD for time machine. Can't replace those.
In a laptop, at best I get something that combines monitor and USB.
The whole thing makes no sense from a unification of cables. At best, it allows some things to be faster. So, LP as an alternative to USB3 or eSata, maybe.
What am I missing?
Look at the machine it'll be on first - the MacBoo Pro with an Apple display.
Can I eliminate power cable? Yes
Can it replace the Ethernet? Lightpeak potentially lets this plug into the display
Can it replace the monitor cable and maybe a USB cable to the monitor for expansion? Yes.
Can it replace the speaker wire? Again, it presumably lets this plug into the display.
Can it replace the USB to external HDD? Again, it lets this plug into the display (and lets future hard drives connect with the faster lightpeak instead of usb).
So you only have 1 cable to connect/disconnect when you move a macbook pro. There's also the possibility that lightpeak would allow a macbook pro to connect to more than one external display. Why should a the need for a smaller machine, thus display, when traveling limit the size of your displays on your desktop.
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i know. but its fun to mock stuff like that.
Just out of interest, what is mouse tracking software?
So what will I be able to connect to my Mac with USB? I no of no devices on the market that use it. I would much rather see ADB honestly.
Hmm. I wonder.
This should result in an instant ban.
i know. but its fun to mock stuff like that.
Edit your posts instead of multi-posting, use the quote feature to quote posts.
You could have a simple wall powerr plug that comes up to a small breakout box with pwr converter, 2 USB, 2 light peak, a FireWire and an hdmi connector.... And a single skinny wire that connects to your MacBook. Only one port on the Mac for everything.
You could leave peripherals connected to the power/breakout module at work and home and just connect the Mag Connector to your MacBook.
Brilliant!
Jim
Looks like the strange extra little port seen on iPad 2 cases is gonna be a new light peak connector. Even more cool is it will be a combination MagSafe power connector. This new MagSafe light peak connector would then appear on all the new iOS products and eventually when light peak becomes widely available on computers they can safely lose the old dock connector.
Nice dream but I don't see it happening on the iPad 2 (which sounds more like an iPad 1.5 with 2 coming this fall). I think this will probably show up on the Mac Pro, the MBP, MB then iPad/iPhone. It does kinda depend on how well Intel has implemented this (ideally as part of a processor) and if not a single chip (as opposed to a set i.e., like they have done with SATA, GUI, Mem Ctrl, FP, etc... which all started life as add-ons). What would be really great but much less likely would be something that could be licensed and included in SoC like the A5 maybe (might as well dream big, if I am gonna dream at all). Has Intel ever produced a chip or chip set that they then licensed to allow it to be included on someone else's product (not talking technology or patent licensing here but actual die)?
Right now on, say, the tower Mac, I would have a power cord, the GbE cord, the HDMI/DP cord to the monitor, and cord to the analog speakers, and some USB cords (external HDD, KB/mouse). If the KB/mouse is BT, then I don't even have that. How, exactly, does "LightPeak" or any other connector reduce this?
Can I eliminate power cable? No
Can it replace the Ethernet? No - unless there is some adapter in my wall.
Can it replace the monitor cable and maybe a USB cable to the monitor for expansion? Yes.
Can it replace the speaker wire? No - unless there is an adapter to my speakers.
Can it replace the USB to external HDD? No.
So, I still have a bunch of wires, except maybe I reduced one with a new "unified" cable to my monitor.
I'm not seeing the value here, folks. And it makes even less sense for an iMac. If the iMac is connected to the internet via WiFi and KB/mouse via BT, then I only have a power cord, and maybe a USB cable to an external HDD for time machine. Can't replace those.
In a laptop, at best I get something that combines monitor and USB.
The whole thing makes no sense from a unification of cables. At best, it allows some things to be faster. So, LP as an alternative to USB3 or eSata, maybe.
What am I missing?
So if Apple's going to rename this, what would they call it?
Can't use the Air- prefix, as that's wireless stuff, i- doesn't make any sense, Face- is even more silly.
Oh! QuickPort!
FireWire rebranded to use the i-prefix: iReWire.
I hate to use the line from Philadelphia, but would somebody please explain this to me like I'm a 4 year old?
Right now on, say, the tower Mac, I would have a power cord, the GbE cord, the HDMI/DP cord to the monitor, and cord to the analog speakers, and some USB cords (external HDD, KB/mouse). If the KB/mouse is BT, then I don't even have that. How, exactly, does "LightPeak" or any other connector reduce this?
Can I eliminate power cable? No
Can it replace the Ethernet? No - unless there is some adapter in my wall.
Can it replace the monitor cable and maybe a USB cable to the monitor for expansion? Yes.
Can it replace the speaker wire? No - unless there is an adapter to my speakers.
Can it replace the USB to external HDD? No.
So, I still have a bunch of wires, except maybe I reduced one with a new "unified" cable to my monitor.
I'm not seeing the value here, folks. And it makes even less sense for an iMac. If the iMac is connected to the internet via WiFi and KB/mouse via BT, then I only have a power cord, and maybe a USB cable to an external HDD for time machine. Can't replace those.
In a laptop, at best I get something that combines monitor and USB.
The whole thing makes no sense from a unification of cables. At best, it allows some things to be faster. So, LP as an alternative to USB3 or eSata, maybe.
What am I missing?
You?ve thought up the most convoluted and complex option and then said this just work work. When you think of ?why? you should think about it from the perspective of those creating it. That may mean thinking outside your comfort zone.
Mac notebook users that also have their LED Cinema Display this would be great. That is ONE cable with multiple connectors. This isn?t bad, but it could be better. Having ONE cable with only ONE port would make this much easier to connect and disconnect.
Also note that optical cabling will be the standard one day, but it also needs to supply power (the downfall of eSATA). For this to happen it needs to have copper. This is also true of Apple?s 30-pin connector. Even thought LightPeak is protocol agnostic both devices need to understand the physical medium involved. This means a change from copper to optical, and this will not be a fast or smooth transition unless there is cable that offers optical, copper for signaling and copper for power into the same connector.
..... Gigibit Ethernet...
Bonjour, ma Gigi. Pourrais-je vous offrir a boire?
fourteenth!
Twenty first!
I pwn you all.
The article is counted as #1 in the forums, so your replies are actually thirteenth and twentieth. I believe the internet phrase I'm supposed to insert here is: FAIL!
There was an article some time ago about the first revision using copper instead of fibre. If that's true it would explain the need for not using "Light Peak."
If you look at the side of the current Macbook Pro, the Ethernet connector is the single thickest connector on it. With Apple's current focus on thinness at all costs, that connector is most likely the first to get replaced by a combined optical port.
Or just some special port that is copper but allows for multiple connection types to be used… like LightPeak. Sell an adapter for Gb Ethernet and you’re set. People will complain that they have to use an adapter but I haven’t use Ethernet in years on MBPs. I’ve used an optical drive more recently than Ethernet. I bet the average consumer isn’t plugging their notebook into Ethernet at home either.
How about Lightwire?
Is this an open standard? Proprietary to Intel under license to Apple? Wasn't Firewire an Apple moniker for an open standard that it spearheaded that Sony also adopted and called i.Link? Would this be the same sort of thing but with Intel being the spearhead?
Ha! You beat me to the punch. That's my fav, for some reason. Rolls right off the tongue.
Peakachu
That, or TRON
A full-length Blu-Ray movie could transfer over Light Peak in less than 30 seconds, Intel states on its website.
Good luck trying to find a hard drive that can write it to memory that fast. I suppose if you had enough RAM you might be able to get it to transfer that fast.
Good luck trying to find a hard drive that can write it to memory that fast. I suppose if you had enough RAM you might be able to get it to transfer that fast.
Who said anything about HDD? TRY SSD!
I hate to use the line from Philadelphia, but would somebody please explain this to me like I'm a 4 year old?
Right now on, say, the tower Mac, I would have a power cord, the GbE cord, the HDMI/DP cord to the monitor, and cord to the analog speakers, and some USB cords (external HDD, KB/mouse). If the KB/mouse is BT, then I don't even have that. How, exactly, does "LightPeak" or any other connector reduce this?
Can I eliminate power cable? No
Can it replace the Ethernet? No - unless there is some adapter in my wall.
Can it replace the monitor cable and maybe a USB cable to the monitor for expansion? Yes.
Can it replace the speaker wire? No - unless there is an adapter to my speakers.
Can it replace the USB to external HDD? No.
So, I still have a bunch of wires, except maybe I reduced one with a new "unified" cable to my monitor.
I'm not seeing the value here, folks. And it makes even less sense for an iMac. If the iMac is connected to the internet via WiFi and KB/mouse via BT, then I only have a power cord, and maybe a USB cable to an external HDD for time machine. Can't replace those.
In a laptop, at best I get something that combines monitor and USB.
The whole thing makes no sense from a unification of cables. At best, it allows some things to be faster. So, LP as an alternative to USB3 or eSata, maybe.
What am I missing?
Look at the machine it'll be on first - the MacBoo Pro with an Apple display.
Can I eliminate power cable? Yes
Can it replace the Ethernet? Lightpeak potentially lets this plug into the display
Can it replace the monitor cable and maybe a USB cable to the monitor for expansion? Yes.
Can it replace the speaker wire? Again, it presumably lets this plug into the display.
Can it replace the USB to external HDD? Again, it lets this plug into the display (and lets future hard drives connect with the faster lightpeak instead of usb).
So you only have 1 cable to connect/disconnect when you move a macbook pro. There's also the possibility that lightpeak would allow a macbook pro to connect to more than one external display. Why should a the need for a smaller machine, thus display, when traveling limit the size of your displays on your desktop.
Oh, well. Me personally, if it means less cables and pwr bricks, then good. I sure don't want my office looking like that geek lab!
iPhone 5, iPad 2, a 60" LED HDTV, ATV, maybe a BR player, Time Capsule, my wireless Brother MFC and I'm golden.
No more tech gadgets for me except for the above!
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