Thunderbolt is such an awful name. First, it's too long. Can you hear yourself saying, "I need to plug in my Thunderbolt drive?" or "I wish I had a longer Thunderbolt cable."
Second, there's no such thing as a Thunderbolt. There's a lightning bolt, but not a Thunder bolt.
If they really wanted to use the "lightning" image, they should have just called the new technology "Bolt."
"I need a bolt cable." "Where's my bolt drive." - That sounds a little better.
Thunderbolt is such an awful name. First, it's too long. Can you hear yourself saying, "I need to plug in my Thunderbolt drive?" or "I wish I had a longer Thunderbolt cable."
Second, there's no such thing as a Thunderbolt. There's a lightning bolt, but not a Thunder bolt.
If they really wanted to use the "lightning" image, they should have just called the new technology "Bolt."
"I need a bolt cable." "Where's my bolt drive." - That sounds a little better.
Bluetooth stuck around. So long name isn't a problem. And people hasn't shortened it to "tooth"
Thunderbolt is such an awful name. First, it's too long. Can you hear yourself saying, "I need to plug in my Thunderbolt drive?" or "I wish I had a longer Thunderbolt cable."
Second, there's no such thing as a Thunderbolt. There's a lightning bolt, but not a Thunder bolt.
If they really wanted to use the "lightning" image, they should have just called the new technology "Bolt."
"I need a bolt cable." "Where's my bolt drive." - That sounds a little better.
I think you'll find that Harry Potter has (or had) a Thunderbolt.
It's got Harry Potter's broomstick model for a name and it's got the Harry Potter scar for an icon.
Maybe JK Rowling has bought into Apple shares and is now dictating things.
Thunderbolt is such an awful name. First, it's too long. Can you hear yourself saying, "I need to plug in my Thunderbolt drive?" or "I wish I had a longer Thunderbolt cable."
Second, there's no such thing as a Thunderbolt. There's a lightning bolt, but not a Thunder bolt.
If they really wanted to use the "lightning" image, they should have just called the new technology "Bolt."
"I need a bolt cable." "Where's my bolt drive." - That sounds a little better.
MobileMe, .Mac, MacBook, MacBook Pro. MacBook Air, Mac Pro, iMac, IPod, iPad , iWork are all examples of Apple nomenclature that I specifically recall that people thought were too confusing or too dumb to use.
You’ll get to the use the name and a once silly sounding name will soon mentally reference the technology and its usage, not some silly deconstructing of the parts of the name to justify your shortsighted dislike. “Bluetooth is neither blue or contains any teeth” “iPods aren’t pods” “There is nothing Pro about a machine with an integrated GPU.”
PS: thunderbolt |ˈθəndərˌbōlt|
noun poetic/literary
- a flash of lightning with a simultaneous crash of thunder, as in Thunder [& lightning]blot].
ThunderBolt sounds aweful. This is another Mobile Me, who make up all these names?
I really hope Sandy Bridge GPU is good enough, It is good, but not that good to move away from Discreet GPU.
That question should be asked about Intel?s names. Sandy Bridge? Really?! At least Thunderblot makes sense, regardless of how you personally feel about it.
Has no one questioned that the Bluetooth is now classed as 2.3? I've never seen, and can't find this spec for Bluetooth... Potentially some sort of NFC implementation for pairing with iPhones and the like?
I've looked on the Bluetooth Special Interest Group, and Wiki (which is usually updated quickly on the Bluetooth front), but cannot find this classification anywhere?
no moaning about the superdrive? Meh....I'll probably yank mine. Rather carry a light weight disc drive that I'll use occasionally than a HDD that I'll use constantly.
ThunderBolt sounds aweful. This is another Mobile Me, who make up all these names?
I really hope Sandy Bridge GPU is good enough, It is good, but not that good to move away from Discreet GPU.
No Apple product name is or will ever be as bad as what Steve wanted to name the first iMac...
MacMan. How utterly awful is that?
With that said, I agree that Thunderbolt sounds a bit too whimsical. I hope it is just someone's idea of a joke. I will not be able to say thunderbolt cable without feeling ridiculous.
I have always been a fan of windows, but recently I have decided to go to "the other side " and buy a MacBook Pro. However, I will be buying it with all my savings, and as that is a big financial effort, I really want high value-for-money.
I will be buying the 15".
If there isn't a redesign (or at least liquidmetal), if the thunderbolt port isn't compatible with other types of ports (usb 3.0 and its precedents), if the discrete graphics card isn't upgraded, and if there is no OSX-dedicated SSD, I believe that the upgrade isn't worth it.
Really disappointed, hope this is fake and Apple surprises us with real goodies
Otherwise... I will have to remain windows-attached for the next 4/5 years..
If you think value for money = a completely redesigned shell, then apple products aren't for you. If build quality, stability, resale value and user experience are important and worth making an investment for, then make the jump.
You want light peak to be compatible with USB?! Would you like mini display port to be compatible with FireWire also?
Your logic here makes no sense. Apple products are already a sound investment. If you think that increasing performance while reducing cost isn't 'enough' for you, then there's something wrong with your reasoning.
Not if they want anyone else to use the port, they won't.
And can you imagine 10Gbps iOS device transfers? Takes away the complaining about no wireless syncing, that's for sure.
Now the question is: When will I be able to buy a ThunderBolt PCIe card for my Mac Pro? Not buying a new computer just for an amazing port.
NOT in the slightest does this alleviate the complaint regarding the lack of official wireless transfers! Many time I just want to transfer a picture or two, maybe three or four songs I bought on my iPad, or a single app...etc.
I still have to pull out a cable and connect the iPad for something SO trivial! The Zine had this feature years ago and it works perfectly. Is Apple refusing to add it because they are afraid of being seen as copying Apple? This makes no sense at all.
Thunderbolt is such an awful name. First, it's too long. Can you hear yourself saying, "I need to plug in my Thunderbolt drive?" or "I wish I had a longer Thunderbolt cable."
USB and Thunderbolt both have 3 syllables, so they're both just as long to say.
Look at the left edge of the profile screen shot. What is that color change that occurs in the middle of the Magsafe port and continues up the screen? It looks far to dark and defined to be a shadow and it is perfectly straight down the middle of the port.
It's either a photoshopped picture, or there might be some LiquidMetal involved?
Looks like to me, a transparent plastic wrap to keep the two sides (monitor & keyboard) clamped down.
You can follow it's outline to the next I/O port as well.
I mean real FireWire, not the pansy 4-pin 400 ports you see on PCs, I mean real 6-pin 400 ports; the ports that would have made it a USB-killer.
Are you just being funny? If not, the extra two pins on a Mac are for power supply. They have nothing to do with data rate capabilities. 4-pin FireWire is just as good as 6-pin FireWire in terms of throughput. Nothing really pansy about them.
Thunderbolt is such an awful name. First, it's too long. Can you hear yourself saying, "I need to plug in my Thunderbolt drive?" or "I wish I had a longer Thunderbolt cable."
Second, there's no such thing as a Thunderbolt. There's a lightning bolt, but not a Thunder bolt.
If they really wanted to use the "lightning" image, they should have just called the new technology "Bolt."
"I need a bolt cable." "Where's my bolt drive." - That sounds a little better.
According to Wiki (I know...) Thunderbolt is another name for discharge only. I interpreted this as download, ie from laptop > device and not upload: device > laptop. Or am I being too IT-nerdy here?
I understand you questioning the name, with its 3 syllables being a bit long.
Wouldn't Apple hold some sort of media event to introduce all these new changes to the line up? I can't see this many changes being done with just a silent refresh. Don't get me wrong the changes would make for an awesome new laptop but usually with this kind of refresh there is more of a show and tell presentation by Apple.
What do you folks think?
In some ways a silent referesh for the above would be an even more powerful statement, IMO. It's Apple saying, "we don't think all this new technology is a big deal...it's just what we always do." Besides, new processors are not really a big deal. How much more performance does a person surfing the web or responding to email going to see? Even the new concept of using a partial SSD drive, while conceptually exciting, isn't going to make a difference to the average Joe, unless it also provides an "instant on". If it is thinner and lighter, it's not going to be by much unless they remove the optical drive (which I'm personally opposed to) and then it will be like an Air, which we've already seen. And "EOL for the white MacBook" is not a feature. So while this will be a really nice refresh and a fine machine, especially for people in the market for a new computer, my 2+ year old MBP is also still a fine machine.
The problem these days is that it's hard to impress people. If you look at the videos of recent Apple events, except when it's a totally new product line, the audience doesn't react much to anything that Steve demonstrates. It's like watching some new special effects movie - we've all become far too jaded and incremental changes won't impress us.
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Second, there's no such thing as a Thunderbolt. There's a lightning bolt, but not a Thunder bolt.
If they really wanted to use the "lightning" image, they should have just called the new technology "Bolt."
"I need a bolt cable." "Where's my bolt drive." - That sounds a little better.
Thunderbolt is such an awful name. First, it's too long. Can you hear yourself saying, "I need to plug in my Thunderbolt drive?" or "I wish I had a longer Thunderbolt cable."
Second, there's no such thing as a Thunderbolt. There's a lightning bolt, but not a Thunder bolt.
If they really wanted to use the "lightning" image, they should have just called the new technology "Bolt."
"I need a bolt cable." "Where's my bolt drive." - That sounds a little better.
Bluetooth stuck around. So long name isn't a problem. And people hasn't shortened it to "tooth"
Thunderbolt is such an awful name. First, it's too long. Can you hear yourself saying, "I need to plug in my Thunderbolt drive?" or "I wish I had a longer Thunderbolt cable."
Second, there's no such thing as a Thunderbolt. There's a lightning bolt, but not a Thunder bolt.
If they really wanted to use the "lightning" image, they should have just called the new technology "Bolt."
"I need a bolt cable." "Where's my bolt drive." - That sounds a little better.
I think you'll find that Harry Potter has (or had) a Thunderbolt.
It's got Harry Potter's broomstick model for a name and it's got the Harry Potter scar for an icon.
Maybe JK Rowling has bought into Apple shares and is now dictating things.
I really hope Sandy Bridge GPU is good enough, It is good, but not that good to move away from Discreet GPU.
Thunderbolt is such an awful name. First, it's too long. Can you hear yourself saying, "I need to plug in my Thunderbolt drive?" or "I wish I had a longer Thunderbolt cable."
Second, there's no such thing as a Thunderbolt. There's a lightning bolt, but not a Thunder bolt.
If they really wanted to use the "lightning" image, they should have just called the new technology "Bolt."
"I need a bolt cable." "Where's my bolt drive." - That sounds a little better.
MobileMe, .Mac, MacBook, MacBook Pro. MacBook Air, Mac Pro, iMac, IPod, iPad , iWork are all examples of Apple nomenclature that I specifically recall that people thought were too confusing or too dumb to use.
You’ll get to the use the name and a once silly sounding name will soon mentally reference the technology and its usage, not some silly deconstructing of the parts of the name to justify your shortsighted dislike. “Bluetooth is neither blue or contains any teeth” “iPods aren’t pods” “There is nothing Pro about a machine with an integrated GPU.”
PS: thunderbolt |ˈθəndərˌbōlt|
noun poetic/literary
- a flash of lightning with a simultaneous crash of thunder, as in Thunder [& lightning]blot].
ThunderBolt sounds aweful. This is another Mobile Me, who make up all these names?
I really hope Sandy Bridge GPU is good enough, It is good, but not that good to move away from Discreet GPU.
That question should be asked about Intel?s names. Sandy Bridge? Really?! At least Thunderblot makes sense, regardless of how you personally feel about it.
I've looked on the Bluetooth Special Interest Group, and Wiki (which is usually updated quickly on the Bluetooth front), but cannot find this classification anywhere?
- Jasen.
ThunderBolt sounds aweful. This is another Mobile Me, who make up all these names?
I really hope Sandy Bridge GPU is good enough, It is good, but not that good to move away from Discreet GPU.
No Apple product name is or will ever be as bad as what Steve wanted to name the first iMac...
MacMan. How utterly awful is that?
With that said, I agree that Thunderbolt sounds a bit too whimsical. I hope it is just someone's idea of a joke. I will not be able to say thunderbolt cable without feeling ridiculous.
What's wrong with the FireWire naming scheme?
If accurate, I don't like the symbol. Far too close to the electrocution warning symbol.
- Jasen.
Doesn't Light Peak need to carry a current to power external kit? Maybe the icon is entirely apt because it is carrying current? Possible?
I have always been a fan of windows, but recently I have decided to go to "the other side " and buy a MacBook Pro. However, I will be buying it with all my savings, and as that is a big financial effort, I really want high value-for-money.
I will be buying the 15".
If there isn't a redesign (or at least liquidmetal), if the thunderbolt port isn't compatible with other types of ports (usb 3.0 and its precedents), if the discrete graphics card isn't upgraded, and if there is no OSX-dedicated SSD, I believe that the upgrade isn't worth it.
Really disappointed, hope this is fake and Apple surprises us with real goodies
Otherwise... I will have to remain windows-attached for the next 4/5 years..
If you think value for money = a completely redesigned shell, then apple products aren't for you. If build quality, stability, resale value and user experience are important and worth making an investment for, then make the jump.
You want light peak to be compatible with USB?! Would you like mini display port to be compatible with FireWire also?
Your logic here makes no sense. Apple products are already a sound investment. If you think that increasing performance while reducing cost isn't 'enough' for you, then there's something wrong with your reasoning.
Not if they want anyone else to use the port, they won't.
And can you imagine 10Gbps iOS device transfers? Takes away the complaining about no wireless syncing, that's for sure.
Now the question is: When will I be able to buy a ThunderBolt PCIe card for my Mac Pro? Not buying a new computer just for an amazing port.
NOT in the slightest does this alleviate the complaint regarding the lack of official wireless transfers! Many time I just want to transfer a picture or two, maybe three or four songs I bought on my iPad, or a single app...etc.
I still have to pull out a cable and connect the iPad for something SO trivial! The Zine had this feature years ago and it works perfectly. Is Apple refusing to add it because they are afraid of being seen as copying Apple? This makes no sense at all.
Thunderbolt is such an awful name. First, it's too long. Can you hear yourself saying, "I need to plug in my Thunderbolt drive?" or "I wish I had a longer Thunderbolt cable."
USB and Thunderbolt both have 3 syllables, so they're both just as long to say.
Look at the left edge of the profile screen shot. What is that color change that occurs in the middle of the Magsafe port and continues up the screen? It looks far to dark and defined to be a shadow and it is perfectly straight down the middle of the port.
It's either a photoshopped picture, or there might be some LiquidMetal involved?
Looks like to me, a transparent plastic wrap to keep the two sides (monitor & keyboard) clamped down.
You can follow it's outline to the next I/O port as well.
I mean real FireWire, not the pansy 4-pin 400 ports you see on PCs, I mean real 6-pin 400 ports; the ports that would have made it a USB-killer.
Are you just being funny? If not, the extra two pins on a Mac are for power supply. They have nothing to do with data rate capabilities. 4-pin FireWire is just as good as 6-pin FireWire in terms of throughput. Nothing really pansy about them.
Thunderbolt is such an awful name. First, it's too long. Can you hear yourself saying, "I need to plug in my Thunderbolt drive?" or "I wish I had a longer Thunderbolt cable."
Second, there's no such thing as a Thunderbolt. There's a lightning bolt, but not a Thunder bolt.
If they really wanted to use the "lightning" image, they should have just called the new technology "Bolt."
"I need a bolt cable." "Where's my bolt drive." - That sounds a little better.
According to Wiki (I know...) Thunderbolt is another name for discharge only. I interpreted this as download, ie from laptop > device and not upload: device > laptop. Or am I being too IT-nerdy here?
I understand you questioning the name, with its 3 syllables being a bit long.
- Sandy Bridge processors
- Light Peak Technology.....or Thunderbolt
- New SSD OS drive
- Possible Liquid Metal body
- Thinner and lighter
- EOL for the white MacBook
Wouldn't Apple hold some sort of media event to introduce all these new changes to the line up? I can't see this many changes being done with just a silent refresh. Don't get me wrong the changes would make for an awesome new laptop but usually with this kind of refresh there is more of a show and tell presentation by Apple.What do you folks think?
In some ways a silent referesh for the above would be an even more powerful statement, IMO. It's Apple saying, "we don't think all this new technology is a big deal...it's just what we always do." Besides, new processors are not really a big deal. How much more performance does a person surfing the web or responding to email going to see? Even the new concept of using a partial SSD drive, while conceptually exciting, isn't going to make a difference to the average Joe, unless it also provides an "instant on". If it is thinner and lighter, it's not going to be by much unless they remove the optical drive (which I'm personally opposed to) and then it will be like an Air, which we've already seen. And "EOL for the white MacBook" is not a feature. So while this will be a really nice refresh and a fine machine, especially for people in the market for a new computer, my 2+ year old MBP is also still a fine machine.
The problem these days is that it's hard to impress people. If you look at the videos of recent Apple events, except when it's a totally new product line, the audience doesn't react much to anything that Steve demonstrates. It's like watching some new special effects movie - we've all become far too jaded and incremental changes won't impress us.