No 'Sir:' UK government denied Apple's Steve Jobs knighthood in 2009

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  • Reply 101 of 129
    newbeenewbee Posts: 2,055member
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    Originally Posted by PaulMJohnson View Post


    It's strange, the Canadians are some of the most peaceful and nice people in the world, yet put them in ice-skates and give them a stick and they start kicking the crap out of each other!



    Maybe if everyone played hockey, we could put an end to war!



    To us, hockey is war! .....
  • Reply 102 of 129
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    Originally Posted by stuffe View Post


    Vatican?



    Nope... it's only the remnant of what used to be known as The Papal States (the Pope even had his own freakin' *army*):



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_States
  • Reply 103 of 129
    leonardleonard Posts: 528member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PaulMJohnson View Post


    It's strange, the Canadians are some of the most peaceful and nice people in the world, yet put them in ice-skates and give them a stick and they start kicking the crap out of each other!



    Maybe if everyone played hockey, we could put an end to war!



    Hey, we have to have some sort of outlet for our rage!



    Quote:

    To us, hockey is war! .....



    Our patriotism is probably very linked to our hockey....



    I'd say GO SENS at this point, but we're at the bottom of the barrel this year and reconstructing our team.
  • Reply 104 of 129
    paulmjohnsonpaulmjohnson Posts: 1,380member
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    Originally Posted by Leonard View Post


    I'd say GO SENS at this point, but we're at the bottom of the barrel this year and reconstructing our team.



    And I'm thankful for the Sens reconstructing this year, since you gave my beloved Sharks two easy points in early December!
  • Reply 105 of 129
    kibitzerkibitzer Posts: 1,114member
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    Originally Posted by stuffe View Post


    Sarah Ferguson would win, hands down. Tits down?



    Not sure about that. As the years pass, support for Sarah has been sagging a bit lately.
  • Reply 106 of 129
    arlomediaarlomedia Posts: 271member
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    Originally Posted by ascii View Post


    Well maybe if she did pick them it would be less political. Hmm... I bet Jony Ive would have designed him a kick ass suit of armor.



    Ha ... not sure I would want to try getting into a unibody suit of armor!
  • Reply 107 of 129
    mrtotesmrtotes Posts: 760member
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    Originally Posted by ascii View Post


    I'm surprised the Prime Minister *can* block it, I would have thought it would be entirely up to the Queen.



    In practice those who make handsome financial donations to the ruling political party usually do well in the honours. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cash_for_Honours Perhaps Mr Brown hoped some of Apple's spare cash would be coming this way!



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ghostface147 View Post


    I thought that only English citizens or anyone that was in English territories was allowed to be knighted.



    Please watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10 In fact most will learn a thing or two about England, the UK and the Queen watching this video. :-)



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DarenDino View Post


    If Jobs was an illegal immigrant, he would have got his knighthood, benefits,a house, a car and job for life at the taxpayers expense.



    If you'd asserted his liberal lifestyle was the cause of cancer you'd have a Daily Mail headline on your hands. Ergh.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by diamondgeeza View Post


    Wish he would work harder to keep his mouth shut. Prince Charle's comments on nanotechnology and alternative medicine are enough to put science back 50-100 years alone. He's a muppet, admit it.



    I hope it's not 50-100years but there are a lot of other gullible people out there peddling this tosh.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PaulMJohnson View Post


    Well, a lot of the Royal Family can not be explained (the minor royals),

    ...



    Thanks great post.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RichL View Post


    Great troll post. 9/10.



    Made all the better because you posted it from country founded by British citizens, used a language originating in Britain to deliver it and sent it over internet standard invented by a Brit.



    Ha ha!



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PaulMJohnson View Post


    Made me think of this:



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1tJJO_pVvQ



    Great film. Love it.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jr_b View Post


    Gordon Brown, George W. Bush's partner-in-crime.



    Funny, I always thought Blair was his real partner in crime.
  • Reply 108 of 129
    jetzjetz Posts: 1,293member
    I am skeptical that they denied him a knighthood solely because he didn't attend a Labour Party conference. That's a rather sketchy excuse.



    Can anybody be sure it didn't have anything to do with his weak PUBLIC philanthropic record? Compare Jobs' track record on philanthropy to say another tech mogul: Bill Gates.



    Or the fact that he was really ill in 2009?
  • Reply 109 of 129
    asciiascii Posts: 5,936member
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    Originally Posted by RichL View Post


    Made all the better because you posted it from country founded by British citizens, used a language originating in Britain to deliver it and sent it over internet standard invented by a Brit.



    Computers as such were invented by the British if I'm not mistaken (Charles Babbage). But that was back when they scientists, explorers and capitalists who loved their Queen, instead of social democrats who love their NHS.
  • Reply 110 of 129
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    Originally Posted by Jetz View Post


    I am skeptical that they denied him a knighthood solely because he didn't attend a Labour Party conference. That's a rather sketchy excuse.



    Brown was generally regarded as 'psychologically flawed', which would explain a lot....

  • Reply 111 of 129
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    Originally Posted by ascii View Post


    The role of Royalty is to be God's representative on Earth (that is the tradition anyway).



    Ta-da! The aristocrats.



    /The dieties? The celestials? Relic of an outmoded belief system. Except for Blind Io, Anoia, and Thor.
  • Reply 112 of 129
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    Originally Posted by ascii View Post


    Computers as such were invented by the British if I'm not mistaken (Charles Babbage). But that was back when they scientists, explorers and capitalists who loved their Queen, instead of social democrats who love their NHS.



    Actually most things in the modern world were invented by Scotsmen

    - Television, Radar, decent roads, Steam Engine, Anesthetics, Bicycle, Inflatable tyres, Telephone, Penicillin, economics, Refrigerators, even the US Navy!



    Of course, the English invented a few things too, such as the Sandwich

    (and gravity)

    (and Black Holes)

    (and Tanks)

    (and the Jet Engine)





    As for computers, Alan Turing?
  • Reply 113 of 129
    myapplelovemyapplelove Posts: 1,515member
    knighthoods are rubbish, good for Steve, most sirs are morons anyway...
  • Reply 114 of 129
    Just to correct a post from a page ago...Blair did not receive the Congressional Medal of Honor. He received the Congressional Gold Medal. Just pointing that out.



    Also, even if Jobs was knighted he couldn't go by Sir Steve Jobs. Only British subjects can actually use the title 'Sir' or 'Dame'.
  • Reply 115 of 129
    zoetmbzoetmb Posts: 2,652member
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    Originally Posted by Shaun, UK View Post


    No system is perfect. Some of the royal family are tits. So what, George W Bush was a tit and you guys elected him.



    Actually, we didn't elect him, the Supreme Court did (for the first term). And for the 2nd term, he lost the popular vote. And I resent you calling George W Bush a tit. He was not a tit, he was a moron. Like the royal family, Bush was just a showpiece anyway. Dick Cheney was actually President.
  • Reply 116 of 129
    jetzjetz Posts: 1,293member
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    Originally Posted by hdasmith View Post


    Typically the Queen doesn't have a say as to who she knights. The British government periodically puts a list forward to the Queen and unless there's an extremely good reason not to knight a person, she will follow the will of the government as the UKs elected representatives of the people.



    I am very doubtful that the Queen has no influence at all on the selection process. I am sure for the most part she goes along with the government's choices. But I am certain that she hasn't gotten people she's favoured on that list. And she's probably managed to keep a few undesirables off the list by exerting her influence too.



    When it comes to Steve Jobs, as much of a genius and visionary as the guy is, he does have a very checkered past with his personal life. A daughter he refused to support to the point of driving the mother to welfare. A public battle with neighbours over a heritage property. His lack of (public) philanthropy (though he maybe generous behind the scenes....we don't know) and his effort to cancel Apple's philanthropic programs. Then there's the famous story of him screwing Woz over. Add all that up, and it provides for some good arguments on why he shouldn't get an honourary knighthood.



    That said, there's certainly less deserving people who've gotten through before....



    ...And what's with the hate on the Queen and the British on here? I wonder what the tone of this thread would be if Jobs had actually gotten through.
  • Reply 117 of 129
    jetzjetz Posts: 1,293member
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    Originally Posted by Shaun, UK View Post


    No system is perfect. Some of the royal family are tits. So what, George W Bush was a tit and you guys elected him.



    Exactly. I'm Canadian. And I daresay, that Canadians will probably get rid of the Monarchy after the British.



    For one, it would require a constitutional amendment unanimously endorsed by every province to put it through (or you'd have the oddity of individual provinces having ties to the crown). For another, the Crown is a constant reminder of our heritage and a key differentiator (for most Canadians) from the US behemoth next door.



    That and we've kinda gamed the system. We have the Queen. But our government gets to pick these nice people and give them the title of Governor General, with all the Queen's powers. All the ties to the monarchy, without actually having to risk the indignity of a buffoon accidentally inheriting the public spotlight. Every GG we've had (especially in recent memory) have been extremely distinguished Canadians.



    And well, looking at the Americans elect Bush twice, most Canadians were rather glad to have a dignified lady like QEII or Governor General Michaelle Jean (now David Johnston) as our Head of State.
  • Reply 118 of 129
    anantksundaramanantksundaram Posts: 20,398member
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    Originally Posted by Panu View Post


    Among other things, the queen can veto any law in any Commonwealth country.....



    Wow. That would be news to the Indians, for starters.....
  • Reply 119 of 129
    jfanningjfanning Posts: 3,398member
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    Originally Posted by stuffe View Post


    The phrase was put out to pasture long ago. But tell that to the Australians, they don't like it at all, but I wouldn't be surprised if the sun still never sets on the British Empire in one way or another for say 20 hours a day, these days.



    Maybe they don't like it because they are no longer part of the British Empire?
  • Reply 120 of 129
    jfanningjfanning Posts: 3,398member
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    Originally Posted by 2 cents View Post


    This is a plus in my book. Who needs a BS title from the queen mum? It's about time that British Royalty face its irrelevancy.



    I thought the Queen Mother had passed on?
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