Digest the brand-new "Star Trek: Nemesis " trailer. Provide opinions.

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
I was being deliberately clinical there.



Anyway, <a href="http://www.tvsched.com/mediatrek/movies/st10_trailer.mpeg"; target="_blank">here is the new trailer</a> (much newer and better than the one at the Quicktime site) for the latest, and quite perhaps final Trek movie with the ever-so-loveable but never-promoted and quicking-aging cast.



As trailers in general go, it is extremly, extremly good.



Which means as Trek trailers go, it is pure brilliance.



I leave it up to you.



The writers have gone outside the usual circles for a writer this time, and hired a self-professed Trek fan.



All sorts of rumors regarding the quality of the final film have been circulating. Some claim a script found on the 'net is the real deal, but other differ.



Who knows?



All I can say is that they appear to be making a serious effort to produce a very good movie this time around. Only time will tell how it will turn out.



BTW- the end recalls Generations in a very cool and disturbing way. See for yourself.
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  • Reply 1 of 26
    Wow.



    I understood very little from the previous trailers. This one looks much more appealing! I hope this one is as good as First Contact.
  • Reply 2 of 26
    Yes, that (and the previous trailer) confirms everything I read in the script that was circulated a year ago. Mmmm... clonage.



    This will be the last TNG film. Brent Spiner has repeatedly expressed his concern for playing Data (and Lore and B9 ) as he is now 53 years old. It's odd, though, that I don't think Patrick Steward has mentioned his age.



    What *I* want to know is why the hell they used music from the recent Planet of the Apes remake for the trailer background? Why is it that the peoplethat make trailers have no idea what music to use??
  • Reply 3 of 26
    [quote]What *I* want to know is why the hell they used music from the recent Planet of the Apes remake for the trailer background? Why is it that the peoplethat make trailers have no idea what music to use?? <hr></blockquote>



    At least they didn't re-use "Walking On Sunshine" for the 50 billionth time.
  • Reply 4 of 26
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    I think the trailer was too revealing...especially with the Enterprise crashing into Shinzon's ship. I sure hope that's not going to turn out to be something lame like a dream sequence.



    It doesn't even look like a Trek movie...it looks like a Space Opera + dune buggy action sequence.
  • Reply 5 of 26
    [quote]Originally posted by Eugene:

    <strong>it looks like a Space Opera + dune buggy action sequence.</strong><hr></blockquote>And here I thought that's what Star Trek was all about.



    Surely you must know at least one theme from the great Klingon opera "Aktuh and Melota", no?



    :confused:



    edit: it's also known as 'aqtu' mellota' je in tlhIngan Hol.



    [ 09-25-2002: Message edited by: Brad ]</p>
  • Reply 6 of 26
    stoostoo Posts: 1,490member
    And here's me with no sound card.... :/
  • Reply 7 of 26
    defiantdefiant Posts: 4,876member
    [quote]Originally posted by Stoo:

    <strong>And here's me with no sound card.... :/</strong><hr></blockquote>



    and here's me with no quicktime... <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
  • Reply 8 of 26
    scottscott Posts: 7,431member
    [quote]Originally posted by Brad:

    <strong>... Brent Spiner has repeatedly expressed his concern for playing Data (and Lore and B9 ) as he is now 53 years old....</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Yea he played the brilliant role of "shoe salesman" in the hit movie "I am Sam". That 60 seconds he was on screen was riveting
  • Reply 9 of 26
    [quote]Originally posted by Brad:

    <strong> This will be the last TNG film. Brent Spiner has repeatedly expressed his concern for playing Data (and Lore and B9 ) as he is now 53 years old. </strong><hr></blockquote>



    If he is truely 53, he is being stupid requesting they end this particular Star Trek run of movies for a few reasons.



    First: I have seen the few movies he has done, he isnt that great an actor.



    Second: Although he might worry about being typecast, since his acting isnt great, he shouldnt look a gift horse in the mouth <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

    If I were him, I would continue to soak this up. Hell, Len Nemoy was still soaking it up into his 70's or 80's.



    I say this cast has another 3 or 4 movies in them at least
  • Reply 10 of 26
    pscatespscates Posts: 5,847member
    I STILL say it has a "Phantom Menace" tone/look about it (I said this months ago here, upon viewing that initial trailer at Apple's QuickTime trailer section).



    Some of the sets and wardrobe and the filming style reminded me VERY much of the first trailer or two for Episode I.



    In this one, that bald guy says - in appropriate evil, ominous tones - "Set a course for Earth...kill everything".



    Echos of Palpatine's "Wipe them out...all of them" order in one of the early Phantom Menace trailers.



    And the type on the screen ("for every good, there is an evil..." or whatever it said) reminded me of the type on the screen in the very first Episode I teaser "every legend has a beginning..." or something along those lines).



    Hell, the TYPE treatment is almost the same. Stark letters fading it, then fading out, building, dark music underneath.



    It looks like whoever made this movie really dug Lucas' vision of Episode I and borrowed/paid tribute quite a bit.







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  • Reply 11 of 26
    [quote]Originally posted by Dallenb:

    <strong>I say this cast has another 3 or 4 movies in them at least</strong><hr></blockquote>Well, all I'm saying is that this is why he asked to be "written out" of the script, letting his character die... oops! Did I say too much?



    Well, Spock died in The Wrath of Khan. "Remebeeerrr..."



  • Reply 12 of 26
    Looks can deceive...
  • Reply 13 of 26
    [quote]Originally posted by Brad:

    <strong>Well, all I'm saying is that this is why he asked to be "written out" of the script, letting his character die... oops! Did I say too much?



    Well, Spock died in The Wrath of Khan. "Remebeeerrr..."



    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    And he came back in the next one, luckily McCoy "Remembeeerrreeedd..." <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />



    I didnt know he wanted to be written out. I still think that still is stupid of him. Unless he has invested his money well, and is well off, keeping at these movies would be the way to go. His other acting projects probably wont pay as well
  • Reply 14 of 26
    [quote]Originally posted by DoctorGonzo:

    <strong>

    Anyway, <a href="http://www.tvsched.com/mediatrek/movies/st10_trailer.mpeg"; target="_blank">here is the new trailer</a> (much newer and better than the one at the Quicktime site) </strong><hr></blockquote>



    Actually, this same trailer has been on the Apple website for about a week. You can see it <a href="http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/star_trek_nemesis/"; target="_blank">here </a>. I hadn't had a chance to check out your link until now, PC's at work are very outdated and don't do videos well



    **Edit Dang spelling gremlins



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  • Reply 15 of 26
    [quote]Second: Although he might worry about being typecast.....<hr></blockquote>



    Too late, he's already really bitter about it.
  • Reply 16 of 26
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    [quote]Originally posted by Dallenb:

    <strong>



    Actually, this same trailer has been on the Apple website for about a week. You can see it <a href="http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/star_trek_nemesis/"; target="_blank">here </a>. I hadn't had a chance to check out your link until now, PC's at work are very outdated and don't do videos well



    **Edit Dang spelling gremlins



    [ 09-25-2002: Message edited by: Dallenb ]</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Hah, yeah. I didn't actually click through to DoctorGonzo's link because I assumed he linked it to the one on Apple's site. Silly Gonzo for not checking Apple.com first...which has the only official version of the new trailer...Beat Gonzo by a day too.
  • Reply 17 of 26
    Brent Spinner was also in Independence Day. He did a pretty good job at playing a nerd.
  • Reply 18 of 26
    Can any Trek flick be as good as Wrath of Khan was? I'm still waiting and wondering.
  • Reply 19 of 26
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    [quote]Originally posted by Graphic33:

    <strong>Can any Trek flick be as good as Wrath of Khan was? I'm still waiting and wondering.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I don't know, I think First Contact and The Undiscovered Country were pretty good. Maybe the James Horner theme pushes Wrath of Khan above those two...
  • Reply 20 of 26
    Yeah, I loved The Undiscovered Country and its political undertones and the way it played out as a mystery without giving the audience a truly omniscient view like some flicks do. UC and Wrath of Khan are definitely my favorite Trek films.



    First Contact kinda rubbed me the wrong way. I'm not sure exactly what it was about it. One thing I know I didn't like was that it started off so damn fast. I mean, in just ten minutes the Enterprise jumps from some unknown location over to the Neutral Zone, jumps back to Earth, almost single-handedly destroys a Borg cube that a whole FLEET of ships couldn't handle, and travels back in time a couple hundred years to boot. I mean, DAMN, that's just a ridiculous number of events in such a short time, even for Star Trek.



    But I digress.



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