What's happenin to hip-hop music as we speak?
I gotta say that hip-hop is shifting into a sad state right now. You got lame cats in the game right now like Nelly, Ja Rule, Fabolous, Lil Flip, P Diddy, No Limit, etc. that aren't true hip-hop. There is some good talent out there sure, but most of it goes without notice. I mean, you won't find your average white kid in the suburbia bumpin Jurassic 5 in his stereo system, or getting down to KRS One. What has happened? We've come to a corporate state where sell-outs rule the hip-hop charts and real stuff is found underground. Even BET is getting to be as whack as MTV these days. I see a lot of crap on 106&park too, and most of it sounds the same. Not only that, but one of the best lyricists Nas is going to the world least talented record label, Murda Inc. This is a guy who has always shyed away from the commercial labels and been a great rapper. This will tarnish his career, and tarnish the rap world even more.
So next time you see a copy of Nellyville, make sure to place it in it's appropriate section: Pop Music.
So next time you see a copy of Nellyville, make sure to place it in it's appropriate section: Pop Music.
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however, there is a limited pool of talent to draw from. so you pull the good first, then are left with crap.
what to do? throw some gold on top of the crap and sell it to kids.
when rap becomes less popular, then the quality should go back to what it was about 10 years ago, which IMO was the last time rap was great. it was still good about 7 years ago, but that was the beginning of the dark times.
Good music stands the test of time, everything else is forgotten or ridiculed or both....
<strong>I mean, you won't find your average white kid in the suburbia bumpin Jurassic 5 in his stereo system, or getting down to KRS One. </strong><hr></blockquote>
Well at least the "white kids in the suburbia" here all think hip-hop sucks (which sometime I'll agree with them, but most of the time I disagree). Lately punk's more our thing around here.
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You're confusing pop with the real thing. Hip-hop music is a valid art form, even though most of the stuff produced in its name is junk. I'd say what appears to be its swift decline is a matter of hip-hop being born into a rotten period of exploitation in music.
If you strip it down, hip-hop is poetry with a strong rhythm, often with an aggressive message, often improvised, for a live audience. It's a ritualised duel. The basic elements of hip-hop have been practiced for centuries in multiple cultures, long before hip-hop itself came along. Those elements have already stood the test of time. What hip-hop puts on top of that foundation is rhyming and the DJ.
I don't see any problem with the basics. The only thing that really constitutes a fad is the commercialised joke that passes for hip-hop in the mainstream. The problem is slapdash composition and execution. The subject matter is contrived and repetitive, the beats are coming out of drum machines, there is no DJing to speak of... it's looking a lot like real hip-hop was swapped with pop music with gangsta rap to distract us, hence the decline.
There's still the underground though. I can go to shows here (though I don't like to go out) and be amused by the smarts of a local MC or be impressed by a DJ's technique. The scene here is much different than it would be in a major US city - less violence and poverty; more philosophy - but the musical influences are the same, and it's a much better representation of hip-hop than anything you can find on TV.
Judging by what I've heard from various places, regardless of the location and subject matter, I think one finds that the underground makes much more valuable material than the record industry.
<strong>How can you rebel against society by listening to music that is 25 years old?</strong><hr></blockquote>
cause things havent changed that much???
*hugs Mac The Fork*
and of the hiphop, there is nothing worse than hiphop in italian..
"yo" ..
well cool. most of those originally shouting "yo" start to have kids who ask "dad what was hiphop/ techno/ grunge/ambient etc" ...
<img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
... in the beginning of the 1990s
<strong>I gotta say that hip-hop is shifting into a sad state right now. You got lame cats in the game right now like Nelly, Ja Rule, Fabolous, Lil Flip, P Diddy, No Limit, etc. that aren't true hip-hop. There is some good talent out there sure, but most of it goes without notice. I mean, you won't find your average white kid in the suburbia bumpin Jurassic 5 in his stereo system, or getting down to KRS One. What has happened? We've come to a corporate state where sell-outs rule the hip-hop charts and real stuff is found underground. Even BET is getting to be as whack as MTV these days. I see a lot of crap on 106&park too, and most of it sounds the same. Not only that, but one of the best lyricists Nas is going to the world least talented record label, Murda Inc. This is a guy who has always shyed away from the commercial labels and been a great rapper. This will tarnish his career, and tarnish the rap world even more.
So next time you see a copy of Nellyville, make sure to place it in it's appropriate section: Pop Music.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Maybe they ran out of copying and sampling other peoples work. Maybe the public finally got wind that they were being scammed. Maybe rap music since Run DMC has gone down the shit-hole because there hasn't been anything original produced since then. Maybe it's because all the good rappers are dead. Maybe rap is just a trend...maybe I just better shut the **** up.
<strong>There is some good talent out there sure, but most of it goes without notice. I mean, you won't find your average white kid in the suburbia bumpin Jurassic 5 in his stereo system, or getting down to KRS One.</strong><hr></blockquote>
A nice case in point about stereotyping, given that my rural white roommate and I (a suburban white kid) often listened to J5, I've seen Dilated Peoples in concert, and the last cd I bought was "Blazing Arrow" by Blackalicious. So don't fret Tiger, all is not lost.