Apple not yet aligning iPhone 5 part suppliers, handset may miss fiscal 2011

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  • Reply 21 of 83
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
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    Originally Posted by joelryan View Post


    The first two thesaurus entries for "allegedly" are "reportedly" and "supposedly" and not to mention that the dictionary entry says "illegal or undesirable," not necessarily illegal, which the delay in the iPhone 5 could be interpreted as. No need to "hammer on this" so often.



    I think you may be correct. My reading of wikipedia's first paragraph seems to indicate allegedly i.e. referring to an allegation is no more than an assertions which is pretty close to a rumor ("an unverified account or explanation of events circulating from person to person and pertaining to an object, event, or issue in public concern")



    "An allegation (also called adduction) is a claim of a fact by a party in a pleading, which the party claims to be able to prove. Allegations remain assertions without proof, until they can be proved"
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  • Reply 22 of 83
    retrogustoretrogusto Posts: 1,163member
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    Originally Posted by Dr Millmoss View Post


    I hate to hammer on this so often, but AI really needs to get with the dictionary. Right from the Mac dictionary, you will find that "allegedly" means "said, without proof, to have taken place or to have a specified illegal or undesirable quality." AI constantly uses this word when they really (I presume) mean "supposedly" or "reportedly." The word "allegedly" may sound more weighty and important, but it's not actually the concept you are trying to suggest -- unless you really do mean that the iPhone 5 prototypes are illegal or undesirable.



    I think it depends on which dictionary you consult. According to Merriam Webster, allege means "to assert without proof or before proving."

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/allege



    dictionary.reference.com defines allegedly as "reportedly; supposedly"

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/allegedly



    It doesn't sound like the definition is unequivocally limited to the illegal or undesirable.
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  • Reply 23 of 83
    foobarfoobar Posts: 108member
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    Originally Posted by Shaun, UK View Post


    iPhone 4s/5 will be same design as current model with a few modifications (bigger screen).



    iPhone 5/6 which will have complete redesign and May 2012 release.



    Seems likely. For an iPhone 4s, Apple wouldn't need to assemble new components, just a drop-in replacement A5 CPU and more flash.



    I don't think they'll even add a bigger till 2012. If they add it this year, they (and developers) have to support three different screens (not even counting the iPad). By 2012 the 3GS will be phased out, making that transition much easier. (And Apple is always very cautious about doing transitions properly.)
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  • Reply 24 of 83
    pmzpmz Posts: 3,433member
    One thing is for certain: Apple's yearly update cycle is MORE important than quality refreshes.



    Let me clarify, that doesn't mean they don't put out quality releases of hw/sw (they do).



    It means that having something to release in June is more important than what they release. iOS 5, whatever it consists of, will have about 6 major new features...4 of which will be included in iOS 5.0 so it can get out the door....the other 2 or 3 will come in 5.1, due in the Fall.



    Example: Anyone who thinks AirPrint and AirPlay weren't originally scheduled as part of 4.0 is kidding themselves. It was on the chalkboard, and got bumped to 4.1 & 4.2 because it was too much to complete in time for iOS 4/iPhone 4 launch.



    iPhone 5 and iOS 5 will be no different. Apple has its goal dates. Whatever doesn't make the cut will be rolled out in the fall/winter. But the bulk will be out in June.
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  • Reply 25 of 83
    macslutmacslut Posts: 514member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post


    I think you may be correct. My reading of wikipedia's first paragraph seems to indicate allegedly i.e. referring to an allegation is no more than an assertions which is pretty close to a rumor ("an unverified account or explanation of events circulating from person to person and pertaining to an object, event, or issue in public concern")



    "An allegation (also called adduction) is a claim of a fact by a party in a pleading, which the party claims to be able to prove. Allegations remain assertions without proof, until they can be proved"



    In order for the sentence to be proper, this:

    ...a separate rumor from overseas revealed that Apple had allegedly built three prototype models for its anticipated iPhone 5...



    Should have been this:

    ...a separate rumor from overseas alleges that Apple had built three prototype models for its anticipated iPhone 5...
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  • Reply 26 of 83
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,717member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by macslut View Post


    In order for the sentence to be proper, this:

    ...a separate rumor from overseas revealed that Apple had allegedly built three prototype models for its anticipated iPhone 5...



    Should have been this:

    ...a separate rumor from overseas alleges that Apple had built three prototype models for its anticipated iPhone 5...



    Correct.
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  • Reply 27 of 83
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    Originally Posted by faithfulFrank View Post


    If true I'm disappointed. I plan on upgrading to an iphone, and thought at this late date I might as well wait for the iphone5. I hope this is not true.....



    I think I have heard this very comment about a ZILLION times. If Apple would only... invent teleportation, beaming, you name it,,,,, then I would buy one of their phones...



    Sorry, I will not use the troll word here but ... well.... just but...



    like it.... buy it. It will work just great for what its made for. Period... Cause its an Apple.



    Just a thought,

    en
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  • Reply 28 of 83
    blastdoorblastdoor Posts: 3,846member
    I wonder if this makes LTE more likely for the iPhone 5...



    Also, I wonder if Apple wants to move the iPhone to the usual September iPod event since the iPod isn't a very big deal anymore. This could be a nice way to smooth things out across the fiscal year -- iPhone in the fall, iPad in the spring.
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  • Reply 29 of 83
    pmzpmz Posts: 3,433member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Blastdoor View Post


    I wonder if this makes LTE more likely for the iPhone 5...



    Also, I wonder if Apple wants to move the iPhone to the usual September iPod event since the iPod isn't a very big deal anymore. This could be a nice way to smooth things out across the fiscal year -- iPhone in the fall, iPad in the spring.



    iPods are still very much a big deal. The iPod touch is how millions of people without iPhone contracts or monthly bills utilize iOS/spend money on the App Store/iTunes Store/iBookstore.
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  • Reply 30 of 83
    nofeernofeer Posts: 2,427member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ddawson100 View Post


    How many more quarters are we to read rumors, speculation, wishes and anticipation about the iPhone 5?





    till june 7th
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  • Reply 31 of 83
    The lack of new parts in the supply chain means nothing. I expect the design to be very similar, in which case there wouldn't be many new parts, and what new parts there are may be sourced to new suppliers. Besides that, reports that come from supply chain sources are highly unreliable.
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  • Reply 32 of 83
    dr millmossdr millmoss Posts: 5,403member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post


    That is weird isn't it!



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    He probably just lower-cased your name (for... absolutely no reason...). See?



    I guess we'll never know.
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  • Reply 33 of 83
    cpsrocpsro Posts: 3,284member
    (1) Verizon customers would be upset if a new iPhone arrived within 6 months of the iPhone 4's first availability on that network (not to mention how haggard Apple engineers would be).

    (2) The iPhone 5 will be virtually as fast as the iPad 2.



    Therefore... the iPhone 5 will arrive in the fall alongside the iPad 2 HD.
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  • Reply 34 of 83
    dr millmossdr millmoss Posts: 5,403member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by joelryan View Post


    The first two thesaurus entries for "allegedly" are "reportedly" and "supposedly" and not to mention that the dictionary entry says "illegal or undesirable," not necessarily illegal, which the delay in the iPhone 5 could be interpreted as. No need to "hammer on this" so often.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post


    I think you may be correct. My reading of wikipedia's first paragraph seems to indicate allegedly i.e. referring to an allegation is no more than an assertions which is pretty close to a rumor ("an unverified account or explanation of events circulating from person to person and pertaining to an object, event, or issue in public concern")



    "An allegation (also called adduction) is a claim of a fact by a party in a pleading, which the party claims to be able to prove. Allegations remain assertions without proof, until they can be proved"



    Yes, "alleged" can be used in a non-legal context. But in this context, it's essentially being used as a figure of speech rather than for its most direct meaning. What I am noting here is that AI constantly uses this term to imply a meaning that they probably do not intend, and rarely any other. Different words may not sound so weighty but they express the meaning more accurately. Pet peeve.
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  • Reply 35 of 83
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post


    There were tons more case changes than the name ... yet not all ... very weird (cue The Twilight Zone music).. :



    you have just entered... the lowercase zone.
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  • Reply 36 of 83
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,686member
    Firstly allegedly is used correctly. Secondly all this means, if true, is that Apple will release a 4gs.



    More obviously to me: Apple have to move away from a predictable schedule as it is ruining a month of sales.
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  • Reply 37 of 83
    That's means I have more time before I feel the emptiness of knowing that there's something better than my iPhone 4 out there...
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  • Reply 38 of 83
    As it is now, iPhone is playing catch-up to Android. I hate to think of the feature and technology gap that would occur with such a late release of iPhone 5.
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  • Reply 39 of 83
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,717member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jimwork View Post


    As it is now, iPhone is playing catch-up to Android. I hate to think of the feature and technology gap that would occur with such a late release of iPhone 5.



    If you were right, it would be a problem. Fortunately, you're not, so it isn't.
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  • Reply 40 of 83
    vvswarupvvswarup Posts: 338member
    This is sounding exactly like what happened with the iPad 2. There was a post on an obscure Taiwanese blog called Yunatsu, which said that it had sources that confirmed that the iPad 2 was pushed back to June.



    As far as I'm concerned, this is nothing but rumors, and if someone is trying to get their hands on Apple stock, then this is market manipulation, plain and simple.



    My verdict is: Talk to me after a more credible source (e.g. Wall Street Journal) can confirm this.
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