Good call on the magnitude of my reaction. I'd blame it on alcohol if I'd been drinking at the time.
Still, this whole "Apple needs to evolve..." meme--as if they've just been sitting on their butts for the past few years--is, well, silly. It's like telling a vegan not to eat meat.
Regardless of how the term "middle class" is defined, and what the parameters are, or how relative this definition is between countries, I can practically guarantee that there are more than 30 million Indians who can afford Apple products, especially iPads. That alone makes India a larger potential market than Canada, Australia or Switzerland*.
Which makes crap infrastructure, overbearing bureaucracy and pervasive corruption the most compelling theories (in my mind) for Apple's reluctance to make any serious entry into India.
*I name these countries because Apple has deemed them worthy of the investment of building several Apple Retail Stores.
There's excellent evidence that in those countries you named there's a large takeup of Apple's products. The same amount of evidence shows that there has been very light takeup of Apple's products in India. They have been considered to be too expensive for that market. Apple has resellers there, but even they say the product is too expensive for most of their customers.
Those possibly 30 million people who can afford an Apple product are not all in one spot. While they cluster in larger cities, it's likely still too expensive for Apple to want to add stores, and do all that marketing across the entire country. Apple is a business, and they want to sell product. They also want to make a good profit. If they thought that would happen in India, they would open a store. Likely, some time in the future, they will. But until they do, if they think that spending their money and time elsewhere is better. I'm not going to question that, because I'm sure they've done their homework.
It's difficult for a foreign company in India to get anything done. There's a lot of residual distaste for foreign products in the government, both federal, and state. It just may not be worth Apple's time yet.
Good call on the magnitude of my reaction. I'd blame it on alcohol if I'd been drinking at the time.
Still, this whole "Apple needs to evolve..." meme--as if they've just been sitting on their butts for the past few years--is, well, silly. It's like telling a vegan not to eat meat.
I do think that sometimes Apple is too slow to react. It's as though they're sitting at the table, stretching, when their fingers should be at the keyboard. Confidence is good, but overconfidence is bad.
I haven't read any reviews of WebOS, but I'm curious about how it stacks up. I imagine that any serious Honeycomb bugs will be fixed as quickly as possible. I'm not saying that I would never switch, but I'm pretty much tied to the iPad at this point and don't see any significant advantages to Android over IOS. Apple's iPad success is due to IOS, the apps, the development system, and the entire Apple ecosystem. A few companies could conceivably join forces and challenge Apple in these areas, but I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon.
No significant advantages?? How about the ability to sync for FREE over the air and support for Flash? Nothing significant there? Well, then, how about the fact that you don't need proprietary approval to write apps for Android? No? Maybe the 20-40% lower price tag does something for ya'??? Still nothing?....oh well, at least in your cult there's no brainwashingly iconic leader out to prove to the world he understands us better than we do ourselves......oh wait, crap!
No significant advantages?? How about the ability to sync for FREE over the air and support for Flash?
Sync for Free!! wow! Imagine if it cost. Nobody cares about Flash except android drones who hav been told to.
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Nothing significant there?
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Well, then, how about the fact that you don't need proprietary approval to write apps for Android? No?
well, despite the fact that you do on some Android versions with different app stores, and end user should see that as a good thing, as the Android Market place is selling cpyware, crapware, killyourmachineware etc.
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Maybe the 20-40% lower price tag does something for ya'???
What now, there is a $20 difference between the lowest Android on the Market - which isnt selling and has no apps - and the entry level iPad. The iPad beats all other competition. It also has 100,000 apps designed for it, and a stable OS. And a graphics chip and processor combo which beats the pants off the competition.
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oh well, at least in your cult there's no brainwashingly iconic leader out to prove to the world he understands us better than we do ourselves......oh wait, crap!
In your cult there is, all hail Andy Rubln. He love all your personal data long time. HE say Open Source good then it GOOD!, he say it bad then it BAD!
No significant advantages?? How about the ability to sync for FREE over the air and support for Flash? Nothing significant there? Well, then, how about the fact that you don't need proprietary approval to write apps for Android? No? Maybe the 20-40% lower price tag does something for ya'??? Still nothing?....oh well, at least in your cult there's no brainwashingly iconic leader out to prove to the world he understands us better than we do ourselves......oh wait, crap!
How about the fact that many Android apps are just pirated copies of other legit Androis apps, and that Android apps are worse than iOS apps? How about the fact that except for some wallpaper and memory management apps for Android, there are many more kinds of apps on iOS? How about the fact that there is far more hardware available for iOs devices? How about the fact that most Android developers have recently expressed extreme dissatisfaction with the development process and the fragmentation of the platform?
How about the fact that just a few Android devices have Flash, and that it doesn't work well on any of them?
And about Flash, well, even Adobe sees the handwriting on the wall. In addition to a lot of new tools to work HTML 5 in the new upgrade of CS5.5, they also just intro'd streaming video to iOs devices that don't have Flash-from Flash servers. so we don't seem to be needing Flash for much of anything interesting.
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Calm down. I wasn't concern-trolling.
Good call on the magnitude of my reaction. I'd blame it on alcohol if I'd been drinking at the time.
Still, this whole "Apple needs to evolve..." meme--as if they've just been sitting on their butts for the past few years--is, well, silly. It's like telling a vegan not to eat meat.
Regardless of how the term "middle class" is defined, and what the parameters are, or how relative this definition is between countries, I can practically guarantee that there are more than 30 million Indians who can afford Apple products, especially iPads. That alone makes India a larger potential market than Canada, Australia or Switzerland*.
Which makes crap infrastructure, overbearing bureaucracy and pervasive corruption the most compelling theories (in my mind) for Apple's reluctance to make any serious entry into India.
*I name these countries because Apple has deemed them worthy of the investment of building several Apple Retail Stores.
There's excellent evidence that in those countries you named there's a large takeup of Apple's products. The same amount of evidence shows that there has been very light takeup of Apple's products in India. They have been considered to be too expensive for that market. Apple has resellers there, but even they say the product is too expensive for most of their customers.
Those possibly 30 million people who can afford an Apple product are not all in one spot. While they cluster in larger cities, it's likely still too expensive for Apple to want to add stores, and do all that marketing across the entire country. Apple is a business, and they want to sell product. They also want to make a good profit. If they thought that would happen in India, they would open a store. Likely, some time in the future, they will. But until they do, if they think that spending their money and time elsewhere is better. I'm not going to question that, because I'm sure they've done their homework.
It's difficult for a foreign company in India to get anything done. There's a lot of residual distaste for foreign products in the government, both federal, and state. It just may not be worth Apple's time yet.
Good call on the magnitude of my reaction. I'd blame it on alcohol if I'd been drinking at the time.
Still, this whole "Apple needs to evolve..." meme--as if they've just been sitting on their butts for the past few years--is, well, silly. It's like telling a vegan not to eat meat.
I do think that sometimes Apple is too slow to react. It's as though they're sitting at the table, stretching, when their fingers should be at the keyboard. Confidence is good, but overconfidence is bad.
I haven't read any reviews of WebOS, but I'm curious about how it stacks up. I imagine that any serious Honeycomb bugs will be fixed as quickly as possible. I'm not saying that I would never switch, but I'm pretty much tied to the iPad at this point and don't see any significant advantages to Android over IOS. Apple's iPad success is due to IOS, the apps, the development system, and the entire Apple ecosystem. A few companies could conceivably join forces and challenge Apple in these areas, but I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon.
No significant advantages?? How about the ability to sync for FREE over the air and support for Flash? Nothing significant there? Well, then, how about the fact that you don't need proprietary approval to write apps for Android? No? Maybe the 20-40% lower price tag does something for ya'??? Still nothing?....oh well, at least in your cult there's no brainwashingly iconic leader out to prove to the world he understands us better than we do ourselves......oh wait, crap!
No significant advantages?? How about the ability to sync for FREE over the air and support for Flash?
Sync for Free!! wow! Imagine if it cost. Nobody cares about Flash except android drones who hav been told to.
Nothing significant there?
nope
Well, then, how about the fact that you don't need proprietary approval to write apps for Android? No?
well, despite the fact that you do on some Android versions with different app stores, and end user should see that as a good thing, as the Android Market place is selling cpyware, crapware, killyourmachineware etc.
Maybe the 20-40% lower price tag does something for ya'???
What now, there is a $20 difference between the lowest Android on the Market - which isnt selling and has no apps - and the entry level iPad. The iPad beats all other competition. It also has 100,000 apps designed for it, and a stable OS. And a graphics chip and processor combo which beats the pants off the competition.
oh well, at least in your cult there's no brainwashingly iconic leader out to prove to the world he understands us better than we do ourselves......oh wait, crap!
In your cult there is, all hail Andy Rubln. He love all your personal data long time. HE say Open Source good then it GOOD!, he say it bad then it BAD!
No significant advantages?? How about the ability to sync for FREE over the air and support for Flash? Nothing significant there? Well, then, how about the fact that you don't need proprietary approval to write apps for Android? No? Maybe the 20-40% lower price tag does something for ya'??? Still nothing?....oh well, at least in your cult there's no brainwashingly iconic leader out to prove to the world he understands us better than we do ourselves......oh wait, crap!
How about the fact that many Android apps are just pirated copies of other legit Androis apps, and that Android apps are worse than iOS apps? How about the fact that except for some wallpaper and memory management apps for Android, there are many more kinds of apps on iOS? How about the fact that there is far more hardware available for iOs devices? How about the fact that most Android developers have recently expressed extreme dissatisfaction with the development process and the fragmentation of the platform?
How about the fact that just a few Android devices have Flash, and that it doesn't work well on any of them?
And about Flash, well, even Adobe sees the handwriting on the wall. In addition to a lot of new tools to work HTML 5 in the new upgrade of CS5.5, they also just intro'd streaming video to iOs devices that don't have Flash-from Flash servers. so we don't seem to be needing Flash for much of anything interesting.
http://blogs.adobe.com/ktowes/2011/0...e-devices.html
I could just go on and on.
You Android/Google fanboys are much worse than Apple fanboys.