This is precisely the debate, and Apple clearly stole this design. There are plenty of unbiased sites pointing out that Samsung could not possibly have completed production within a month and both Samsung and Apple copied LG. I have Mac and PC and droid, and had an iPhone, I'm no fanboy. The facts just don't look good for Apple here.
And bats clearly stole their design from birds. I mean WINGS? C'mon. You want me to believe that bats just coincidentally invented wings like birds so they could fly? It's too much of a coincidence, don't you think? The facts just don't look good for bats here.
The tabloid gossip you linked to. And what are you denying? That "Lisa" is Steve Jobs' daughter? That he named a $10,000 computer after her? That her birthdate is the origin of the Mac's timekeeping system? All these are physical facts, not innuendo. So, yes?I am uninterested in gossip.
Is the fact that he originally claimed she wasn't his, her mother raise her on welfare, and he signed court documents claiming it couldn't be as he was sterile doesn't enter into equation? Or is the happy ending enough to wipe all this from memory?
So much disinformation, so little time...nah, not worth the waste of electrons. You've posted 2145 posts on an Apple-oriented website to say how much you hate Apple. There's no breaking through that wall of pathology. Enjoy whatever they're paying you?or if they're not paying you, consider therapy.
(That goes for AndroidDomination, MacRules, Menno, sprocketts, etc., etc., et endless cetera.)
Who said I hate Apple? Wasn't me, I am a happy owner of a number of Apple products. Oh wait, it was you claiming I hated them as you have no argument and that's how things are done on AI.
I don't hate Apple, I just don't "love" them like you. They are just a company, I company that is just like every other company around, trying to make as much money as they can.
Is the fact that he originally claimed she wasn't his, her mother raise her on welfare, and he signed court documents claiming it couldn't be as he was sterile doesn't enter into equation? Or is the happy ending enough to wipe all this from memory?
Unlike you, I can distinguish between facts and tabloid gossip. Maybe the gossip is true, I don't care. Your position apparently is, because Steve Jobs is an asshole?which he may well be on a personal level?no one should buy Apple products, and this somehow makes them aesthetically and functionally undesirable. That's a bizarre attitude.
I've bought Hewlett-Packard products (in the past, before their quality went in the crapper) and David Packard was a founding member of the John Birch Society. That's much worse than anything your tabloid sources accuse Steve Jobs of.
Who said I hate Apple? Wasn't me, I am a happy owner of a number of Apple products. Oh wait, it was you claiming I hated them as you have no argument and that's how things are done on AI.
I don't hate Apple, I just don't "love" them like you. They are just a company, I company that is just like every other company around, trying to make as much money as they can.
I don't "Love" any company. This is the puzzled reaction of someone who just doesn't get it. If you haven't noticed, Apple has been on a roll the last 12 years or so. They have people?people with decision-making power?who have a vision, and are dragging the rest of the tech world by the scruff of the neck into a better future.
Every once in a geological age this will happen?an automaker will accidentally make a "car guy" CEO, for example. Then hang onto your hat?for a while. The bean-counters will ultimately prevail, but the ride is a lot of fun while it lasts.
By the way, just so you know?the claim about all the Apple products you own, which may be true in your case, is what the paid shill usually leads with, and it causes everybody on this forum to tune out from everything else you say.
You, sir, simply don't get it. All companies take inspiration from other products, from different categories of products, even from nature itself. Inspiration does not equal theft. Does Apple take design ideas from other companies? Of course they do. Everyone and every company on Earth does that in almost any medium. What Apple does is take that idea and design a sleek hardware product, couple it with the best software around, and add it's iconic brand name. This product becomes enormously successful. In turn, other companies copy the product.
You simply cannot compare the wholesale copying of Apple's products to how Apple got the idea for these products to begin with. It's absurd. Apple buys technology companies all the time. It partners with them. Then it does what apparently only Apple can do: They turn those ideas into the actual functioning product.
Anyone who looks at the history realizes there is no argument here. Samsung and others have blatantly copied the look and feel of Apple's products. Look at the comparisons and release dates. It's cut and dried.
Samsung took inspiration from its prior designs. It did not copy Apple.
Google invented the icon? The touchscreen? Neither was new in 2007, but it is pretty clear a LOT of phones suddenly started looking like the iPhone layout, larger touch screen, one button, icons looking like Apple's.
But certainly not Samsung because they had the large touch screen multi button layout in the final stages even before the iPhone. The same can be said of LG with the Prada phone.
So why is Apple suing them? Because they are desperate.
So, let's see...all cars have four wheels, bumpers, a motor, steering wheel, dash, batteries, AC, transmission, etc. Which manufacturer needs to sue all the other car manufacturers for copying?
Grow up Apple! You have great profits, die hard followers, and your own unique, controlled OS/ecosystem. Are you really scared of a little similar competition or do you expect a monopoly on touch screen devices with icons?
Oh yeah, Xerox called from 30 years ago...they want their GUI back!
(and just for full disclosure since I am new; I own a nano, iPod Touch, a Droid, and an iPad 2. I love tech and gadgets and don't care who makes them. All the fanboy sh** is dumb. I think without competition we would all still be driving moto razors, but I can't stand stuff like this lawsuit. It is just pure greed. Apple needs to remember this in several years when they are no longer on top (OH YEAH, EVENTUALLY THEY WILL SLIP, THEY ALL DO) and want to take "inspiration" from the new "it" company or product.)
Unlike you, I can distinguish between facts and tabloid gossip. Maybe the gossip is true, I don't care. Your position apparently is, because Steve Jobs is an asshole?which he may well be on a personal level?no one should buy Apple products, and this somehow makes them aesthetically and functionally undesirable. That's a bizarre attitude.
I've bought Hewlett-Packard products (in the past, before their quality went in the crapper) and David Packard was a founding member of the John Birch Society. That's much worse than anything your tabloid sources accuse Steve Jobs of.
Why do you continue to make things up to defend your position?
Jobs signed court documents to say the kid couldn't be his. This is a fact, I fact that I really care about, but it is still a fact, an important fact as it proves you wrong.
I don't "Love" any company. This is the puzzled reaction of someone who just doesn't get it. If you haven't noticed, Apple has been on a roll the last 12 years or so. They have people?people with decision-making power?who have a vision, and are dragging the rest of the tech world by the scruff of the neck into a better future.
Every once in a geological age this will happen?an automaker will accidentally make a "car guy" CEO, for example. Then hang onto your hat?for a while. The bean-counters will ultimately prevail, but the ride is a lot of fun while it lasts.
By the way, just so you know?the claim about all the Apple products you own, which may be true in your case, is what the paid shill usually leads with, and it causes everybody on this forum to tune out from everything else you say.
What?
I don't care what you believe, I know I am telling the truth, and I know you are just a fool hiding behind a pseudonym, spouting rubbish.
Have fun with this, hopefully when you hit your teenage years you get better at it.
Why do you continue to make things up to defend your position?
Jobs signed court documents to say the kid couldn't be his. This is a fact, I fact that I really care about, but it is still a fact, an important fact as it proves you wrong.
Again, what part of "Maybe the gossip is true, I don't care." is escaping you? What in the Hell am I "wrong"about, you obtuse, stupid little troll? Is Lisa not his daughter? Was the Apple Lisa not named after her? That's all I've said. I also said "Steve Jobs may well be an asshole on a personal level." I don't give two hoots in Hell whether he is or not. You can keep linking to all the tabloid gossip you want, trying to make me care—BUT I DON'T!
I don't care what you believe, I know I am telling the truth, and I know you are just a fool hiding behind a pseudonym, spouting rubbish.
Have fun with this, hopefully when you hit your teenage years you get better at it.
I left my teenage years in time to vote for McGovern, thank you very much. Tell me exactly what "rubbish" I've spouted, and I'll show you what a lying little cold sore you are.
You don't get it. There is only one company, one product line, one store! All other companies are either stupid or evil! Anyone who shops at any other store is just a loser! The only way they'll ever learn their place is if we Apple fans show them by breaking the glass in their store windows!
You come to an Apple enthusiast web list to complain about us being Apple enthusiasts?
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Posters like you don't last long 'round here, but I'm glad you showed up long enough to say what you said.
If you are not an Apple enthusiast - no, no you you won't.
Again, what part of "Maybe the gossip is true, I don't care." is escaping you? What in the Hell am I "wrong"about, you obtuse, stupid little troll? Is Lisa not his daughter? Was the Apple Lisa not named after her? That's all I've said. I also said "Steve Jobs may well be an asshole on a personal level." I don't give two hoots in Hell whether he is or not. You can keep linking to all the tabloid gossip you want, trying to make me care?BUT I DON'T!
It is obvious that you don't want to listen to truth, if that is the way you want to go, fine.
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This is precisely the debate, and Apple clearly stole this design. There are plenty of unbiased sites pointing out that Samsung could not possibly have completed production within a month and both Samsung and Apple copied LG. I have Mac and PC and droid, and had an iPhone, I'm no fanboy. The facts just don't look good for Apple here.
And bats clearly stole their design from birds. I mean WINGS? C'mon. You want me to believe that bats just coincidentally invented wings like birds so they could fly? It's too much of a coincidence, don't you think? The facts just don't look good for bats here.
The tabloid gossip you linked to. And what are you denying? That "Lisa" is Steve Jobs' daughter? That he named a $10,000 computer after her? That her birthdate is the origin of the Mac's timekeeping system? All these are physical facts, not innuendo. So, yes?I am uninterested in gossip.
Is the fact that he originally claimed she wasn't his, her mother raise her on welfare, and he signed court documents claiming it couldn't be as he was sterile doesn't enter into equation? Or is the happy ending enough to wipe all this from memory?
So much disinformation, so little time...nah, not worth the waste of electrons. You've posted 2145 posts on an Apple-oriented website to say how much you hate Apple. There's no breaking through that wall of pathology. Enjoy whatever they're paying you?or if they're not paying you, consider therapy.
(That goes for AndroidDomination, MacRules, Menno, sprocketts, etc., etc., et endless cetera.)
Who said I hate Apple? Wasn't me, I am a happy owner of a number of Apple products. Oh wait, it was you claiming I hated them as you have no argument and that's how things are done on AI.
I don't hate Apple, I just don't "love" them like you. They are just a company, I company that is just like every other company around, trying to make as much money as they can.
Is the fact that he originally claimed she wasn't his, her mother raise her on welfare, and he signed court documents claiming it couldn't be as he was sterile doesn't enter into equation? Or is the happy ending enough to wipe all this from memory?
Unlike you, I can distinguish between facts and tabloid gossip. Maybe the gossip is true, I don't care. Your position apparently is, because Steve Jobs is an asshole?which he may well be on a personal level?no one should buy Apple products, and this somehow makes them aesthetically and functionally undesirable. That's a bizarre attitude.
I've bought Hewlett-Packard products (in the past, before their quality went in the crapper) and David Packard was a founding member of the John Birch Society. That's much worse than anything your tabloid sources accuse Steve Jobs of.
You can't... oh **** it you can't comprehend it anyhow.
You said you were going to put me on your ignore list. I guess we can't trust anything you say.
Who said I hate Apple? Wasn't me, I am a happy owner of a number of Apple products. Oh wait, it was you claiming I hated them as you have no argument and that's how things are done on AI.
I don't hate Apple, I just don't "love" them like you. They are just a company, I company that is just like every other company around, trying to make as much money as they can.
I don't "Love" any company. This is the puzzled reaction of someone who just doesn't get it. If you haven't noticed, Apple has been on a roll the last 12 years or so. They have people?people with decision-making power?who have a vision, and are dragging the rest of the tech world by the scruff of the neck into a better future.
Every once in a geological age this will happen?an automaker will accidentally make a "car guy" CEO, for example. Then hang onto your hat?for a while. The bean-counters will ultimately prevail, but the ride is a lot of fun while it lasts.
By the way, just so you know?the claim about all the Apple products you own, which may be true in your case, is what the paid shill usually leads with, and it causes everybody on this forum to tune out from everything else you say.
You, sir, simply don't get it. All companies take inspiration from other products, from different categories of products, even from nature itself. Inspiration does not equal theft. Does Apple take design ideas from other companies? Of course they do. Everyone and every company on Earth does that in almost any medium. What Apple does is take that idea and design a sleek hardware product, couple it with the best software around, and add it's iconic brand name. This product becomes enormously successful. In turn, other companies copy the product.
You simply cannot compare the wholesale copying of Apple's products to how Apple got the idea for these products to begin with. It's absurd. Apple buys technology companies all the time. It partners with them. Then it does what apparently only Apple can do: They turn those ideas into the actual functioning product.
Anyone who looks at the history realizes there is no argument here. Samsung and others have blatantly copied the look and feel of Apple's products. Look at the comparisons and release dates. It's cut and dried.
Samsung took inspiration from its prior designs. It did not copy Apple.
Back to square one for both camps.
Let the courts handle it.
Go back to work.
Google invented the icon? The touchscreen? Neither was new in 2007, but it is pretty clear a LOT of phones suddenly started looking like the iPhone layout, larger touch screen, one button, icons looking like Apple's.
But certainly not Samsung because they had the large touch screen multi button layout in the final stages even before the iPhone. The same can be said of LG with the Prada phone.
So why is Apple suing them? Because they are desperate.
You said you were going to put me on your ignore list. I guess we can't trust anything you say.
You are on my ignore list. Assuming that I won't check your replies and get a laugh out of them is your mistake.
Grow up Apple! You have great profits, die hard followers, and your own unique, controlled OS/ecosystem. Are you really scared of a little similar competition or do you expect a monopoly on touch screen devices with icons?
Oh yeah, Xerox called from 30 years ago...they want their GUI back!
(and just for full disclosure since I am new; I own a nano, iPod Touch, a Droid, and an iPad 2. I love tech and gadgets and don't care who makes them. All the fanboy sh** is dumb. I think without competition we would all still be driving moto razors, but I can't stand stuff like this lawsuit. It is just pure greed. Apple needs to remember this in several years when they are no longer on top (OH YEAH, EVENTUALLY THEY WILL SLIP, THEY ALL DO) and want to take "inspiration" from the new "it" company or product.)
Unlike you, I can distinguish between facts and tabloid gossip. Maybe the gossip is true, I don't care. Your position apparently is, because Steve Jobs is an asshole?which he may well be on a personal level?no one should buy Apple products, and this somehow makes them aesthetically and functionally undesirable. That's a bizarre attitude.
I've bought Hewlett-Packard products (in the past, before their quality went in the crapper) and David Packard was a founding member of the John Birch Society. That's much worse than anything your tabloid sources accuse Steve Jobs of.
Why do you continue to make things up to defend your position?
Jobs signed court documents to say the kid couldn't be his. This is a fact, I fact that I really care about, but it is still a fact, an important fact as it proves you wrong.
I don't "Love" any company. This is the puzzled reaction of someone who just doesn't get it. If you haven't noticed, Apple has been on a roll the last 12 years or so. They have people?people with decision-making power?who have a vision, and are dragging the rest of the tech world by the scruff of the neck into a better future.
Every once in a geological age this will happen?an automaker will accidentally make a "car guy" CEO, for example. Then hang onto your hat?for a while. The bean-counters will ultimately prevail, but the ride is a lot of fun while it lasts.
By the way, just so you know?the claim about all the Apple products you own, which may be true in your case, is what the paid shill usually leads with, and it causes everybody on this forum to tune out from everything else you say.
What?
I don't care what you believe, I know I am telling the truth, and I know you are just a fool hiding behind a pseudonym, spouting rubbish.
Have fun with this, hopefully when you hit your teenage years you get better at it.
Why do you continue to make things up to defend your position?
Jobs signed court documents to say the kid couldn't be his. This is a fact, I fact that I really care about, but it is still a fact, an important fact as it proves you wrong.
Again, what part of "Maybe the gossip is true, I don't care." is escaping you? What in the Hell am I "wrong"about, you obtuse, stupid little troll? Is Lisa not his daughter? Was the Apple Lisa not named after her? That's all I've said. I also said "Steve Jobs may well be an asshole on a personal level." I don't give two hoots in Hell whether he is or not. You can keep linking to all the tabloid gossip you want, trying to make me care—BUT I DON'T!
What?
I don't care what you believe, I know I am telling the truth, and I know you are just a fool hiding behind a pseudonym, spouting rubbish.
Have fun with this, hopefully when you hit your teenage years you get better at it.
I left my teenage years in time to vote for McGovern, thank you very much. Tell me exactly what "rubbish" I've spouted, and I'll show you what a lying little cold sore you are.
You don't get it. There is only one company, one product line, one store! All other companies are either stupid or evil! Anyone who shops at any other store is just a loser! The only way they'll ever learn their place is if we Apple fans show them by breaking the glass in their store windows!
You come to an Apple enthusiast web list to complain about us being Apple enthusiasts?
Posters like you don't last long 'round here, but I'm glad you showed up long enough to say what you said.
If you are not an Apple enthusiast - no, no you you won't.
Edit: accidental post. I need to get some sleep...
Again, what part of "Maybe the gossip is true, I don't care." is escaping you? What in the Hell am I "wrong"about, you obtuse, stupid little troll? Is Lisa not his daughter? Was the Apple Lisa not named after her? That's all I've said. I also said "Steve Jobs may well be an asshole on a personal level." I don't give two hoots in Hell whether he is or not. You can keep linking to all the tabloid gossip you want, trying to make me care?BUT I DON'T!
It is obvious that you don't want to listen to truth, if that is the way you want to go, fine.