So what are those of us who are waiting for our AT&T contract to be up at the end of June supposed to do? I'll have to get the iPhone 4 in late June, so will I be stuck with that for another two years now? I just waited two years because I thought the iPhone 5 would be available in June. This sucks!
Why do you "have to get" a new phone in June? Does you current phone magically stop working after two years? Or are you just that impatient that you can't keep using it for a couple more months and get the new iPhone in the Fall?
It doesn't make sense. Why delay until September if you only make minimal changes? If they delay the launch, they must work on something very hard to implement, something revolutionary, not just a faster processor.
Or maybe one of the largest centres for electronics component manufacturing in the world was wiped off the face of the earth last month - Japan is in crisis, there are going to be impacts to product cycles and launch dates...
It doesn't make sense. Why delay until September if you only make minimal changes? If they delay the launch, they must work on something very hard to implement, something revolutionary, not just a faster processor.
I can think of 2 very good reasons:
1. Spetember is a better time of year to release this kind of product. It's usually when iPod's are announced but the iPhone's slowly killing off iPod sales so it makes sense to swap the release dates around.
2. More importantly they have no need to release another phone yet. The iPhone 4 still sells well, which is probably also why the iPhone 5 won't be revolutionary. Tech companies never actually release more than they need to. Just look at Samsungs tablet strategy and how quickly they made it thinner. They didn't come up with that just after Apple released the iPad 2, they probably already had it but didn't think Apple was going to raise the bar that high that quick and had planned it to rival the iPad 3. The same goes for the history of the iPhone, the origional could have had 3G but it didn't. The 3G could have had a decent camera but it didn't. The current iPad could have 1gb of ram but it doesn't.
Especially one that doesn't add a blue tint to indoor shots under certain lighting.
It's blue because you have 2 conflicting light sources in the frame. No camera in the world can set white-balance rightly for 2 extremely different light source. It will get one light right but not both.
If you know photography you will avoid this kind of situation on auto-white balance camera.
It doesn't make sense. Why delay until September if you only make minimal changes? If they delay the launch, they must work on something very hard to implement, something revolutionary, not just a faster processor.
Especially one that doesn't add a blue tint to indoor shots under certain lighting.
There is no blue anywhere in our State Capital. However outdoor shots look great.
The problem with your shot is you have exterior light mixing with interior light, both have very different color temperatures, and that's very hard or impossible to mix well without post processing.
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Originally Posted by matrix07
Learn photography. Problem solved.
Looking at your photograph. iPhone did a nice job got main light source right.
The example photo doesn't show the problem well. With interior fluorescent light, the center of the photo gets an awful blue-green tinge, then it goes away towards the edges.
A speed bump is one thing but changing the baseband chip is an entirely different matter. That alone could dictate the release date. Further, doesn't changing the baseband chip require a bunch of extra FCC testing?
I don't know if Apple's goal is to make a "universal" iPhone 5 that can be used on either Verizon Wireless's CDMA network or AT&T's GSM network but it would be like Apple to be the paradigm breaker in creating that kind of phone. At the very least, I hope they are addressing the lack of "world phone" capability in the current Verizon iPhone 4. RIM has that functionality covered quite well and it wouldn't surprise me if Apple is trying to catch up to RIM in that regard. It certainly can explain the baseband chip change all by itself.
The problem with your shot is you have exterior light mixing with interior light, both have very different color temperatures, and that's very hard or impossible to mix well without post processing.
Well I am not a photographer by any means, just point and shoot, but it is disappointing to have this happen. I asked several bystanders to take pics with their cell phones/point and shoot/dSLR cameras and best I could see, only the iPhone 4 had this blut tint. A couple were Android devices, one crap blackberry phone (which of course was horrible anyways), Canon point, and shoot and a Mark II something dSLR (which I think is overkill for internal shots like this). None had the blue tint, so I guess they do something different.
Oh well. Maybe I should learn something about post processing to clean these photos up and remove that tint. There are several like that. If anyone has any tips, just PM me.
As for this thread, I will be keeping my i4 and not updating until my contract runs out in summer 2012.
This rumour is shaping up to look legit, but why the change in the release cycle? I can’t imagine this speed bump will have affected the release schedule by a full season.
Some ideas that cross my mind:
Lion and/or new data center caused the need for this year’s delay?
New larger display in about the same size casing needs more lead time for devs in the new SDK for apps and their submissions to be shown at WWDC?
Need extra time to add some new HW to the iPhone 5, like a thunderbolt controller for faster syncing and charging to Macs to help legitimize the new port?
Releasing the iPad so close to iPhone proving difficult with the excessive popularity of both categories so moving them to 6 months apart was needed?
Perhaps based on the previous item, the iPhone as the most profitable HW product and iPod least having them both released at the same time for the holidays makes more sense 5 years later?
Do you think perhaps, as others have suggested, this maybe the iPhone 4s rather than 5?
BTW, I'd like to see an option to totally update/ backup /sync an iPhone or an iPad via wi-fi to a Mac as an option to a direct link. Heck I transfer well over 10 gigs regularly via my AE between Macs on my network.
The example photo doesn't show the problem well. With interior fluorescent light, the center of the photo gets an awful blue-green tinge, then it goes away towards the edges.
It's the light from the sun (coming through the roof), hence the blue tint. And I think you meant incandescent.
Well I am not a photographer by any means, just point and shoot, but it is disappointing to have this happen. I asked several bystanders to take pics with their cell phones/point and shoot/dSLR cameras and best I could see, only the iPhone 4 had this blut tint. A couple were Android devices, one crap blackberry phone (which of course was horrible anyways), Canon point, and shoot and a Mark II something dSLR (which I think is overkill for internal shots like this). None had the blue tint, so I guess they do something different.
Oh well. Maybe I should learn something about post processing to clean these photos up and remove that tint. There are several like that. If anyone has any tips, just PM me.
As for this thread, I will be keeping my i4 and not updating until my contract runs out in summer 2012.
I suspect you are seeing the result of a 'feature' not a problem. The iPhone 4's ability to actually show the brighter outside while managing to expose the darker areas in a single shot. In most cameras the highlights would blow out or the shadows would go dark depending on your aperture. If you read up on the iPhone 4's system it is using a special technique now also available on high end Nikons etc. to do this (simply put, an extraordinarily extended dynamic rage). I won't elaborate here as it has all been discussed on this forum many times. White balancing in traditional photography hasn't had to deal with this before since one couldn't photograph both the highlights and shadows with different lighting temperatures, in the same image. Your picture obviously is showing this really well
If you think about it you are seeing reality in a photograph rather than what you have become accustomed to due to the limitations of cameras in the past. The temperature of light really is different between the outside and the artificial lights. There are web sites out there from a few years ago featuring such images that took very expensive software and the combination of three HD images (taken with different apertures) to achieve this same result. People flocked to them as the images were so amazing. Now you are complaining ... I have to chuckle.
Well I am not a photographer by any means, just point and shoot, but it is disappointing to have this happen. I asked several bystanders to take pics with their cell phones/point and shoot/dSLR cameras and best I could see, only the iPhone 4 had this blut tint. A couple were Android devices, one crap blackberry phone (which of course was horrible anyways), Canon point, and shoot and a Mark II something dSLR (which I think is overkill for internal shots like this). None had the blue tint, so I guess they do something different.
If it did not get blue from the sun then that mean it did not get the main light right (the room will be more reddish), or most likely you didn't look closely. I shoot with DSLR and your picture is normal.
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So what are those of us who are waiting for our AT&T contract to be up at the end of June supposed to do? I'll have to get the iPhone 4 in late June, so will I be stuck with that for another two years now? I just waited two years because I thought the iPhone 5 would be available in June. This sucks!
Why do you "have to get" a new phone in June? Does you current phone magically stop working after two years? Or are you just that impatient that you can't keep using it for a couple more months and get the new iPhone in the Fall?
It doesn't make sense. Why delay until September if you only make minimal changes? If they delay the launch, they must work on something very hard to implement, something revolutionary, not just a faster processor.
Or maybe one of the largest centres for electronics component manufacturing in the world was wiped off the face of the earth last month - Japan is in crisis, there are going to be impacts to product cycles and launch dates...
It doesn't make sense. Why delay until September if you only make minimal changes? If they delay the launch, they must work on something very hard to implement, something revolutionary, not just a faster processor.
I can think of 2 very good reasons:
1. Spetember is a better time of year to release this kind of product. It's usually when iPod's are announced but the iPhone's slowly killing off iPod sales so it makes sense to swap the release dates around.
2. More importantly they have no need to release another phone yet. The iPhone 4 still sells well, which is probably also why the iPhone 5 won't be revolutionary. Tech companies never actually release more than they need to. Just look at Samsungs tablet strategy and how quickly they made it thinner. They didn't come up with that just after Apple released the iPad 2, they probably already had it but didn't think Apple was going to raise the bar that high that quick and had planned it to rival the iPad 3. The same goes for the history of the iPhone, the origional could have had 3G but it didn't. The 3G could have had a decent camera but it didn't. The current iPad could have 1gb of ram but it doesn't.
Releasing the iPhone 5 later will give them more time to sell the white iPhone 4.
Furthermore, the current iPhone design works, why reinvent the wheels?
I personally think the following will be introduced with the iPhone 5:
2. Better camera
Especially one that doesn't add a blue tint to indoor shots under certain lighting.
There is no blue anywhere in our State Capital. However outdoor shots look great.
I'm in the same situation but I'll just let the payments run through to September off-contract and then sign a new contract then for an iPhone 5.
Hmm, I didn't even know you could do that. Thanks, I'll look into that.
Especially one that doesn't add a blue tint to indoor shots under certain lighting.
It's blue because you have 2 conflicting light sources in the frame. No camera in the world can set white-balance rightly for 2 extremely different light source. It will get one light right but not both.
If you know photography you will avoid this kind of situation on auto-white balance camera.
Especially one that doesn't add a blue tint to indoor shots under certain lighting.
There is no blue anywhere in our State Capital. However outdoor shots look great.
Hopefully, you're kidding/being sarcastic.
It doesn't make sense. Why delay until September if you only make minimal changes? If they delay the launch, they must work on something very hard to implement, something revolutionary, not just a faster processor.
Maybe ios5 wasn't rdy.
Hopefully, you're kidding/being sarcastic.
I'm not. Outdoor shots, IMHO, look very nice. But internal shots frequently have that blue tint. I have several examples.
I must have gotten a pre-realease iPhone one year early...in 2007!
I'm not. Outdoor shots, IMHO, look very nice. But internal shots frequently have that blue tint. I have several examples.
Learn photography. Problem solved.
Looking at your photograph. iPhone did a nice job got main light source right.
What about the rest of the planet? How soon until the entire world is bathed in LTE?
Given that it's a 3GPP standard, isn't it pretty much inevitable? I'm surprised not many networks are starting to roll it out already.
Especially one that doesn't add a blue tint to indoor shots under certain lighting.
There is no blue anywhere in our State Capital. However outdoor shots look great.
The problem with your shot is you have exterior light mixing with interior light, both have very different color temperatures, and that's very hard or impossible to mix well without post processing.
Learn photography. Problem solved.
Looking at your photograph. iPhone did a nice job got main light source right.
The example photo doesn't show the problem well. With interior fluorescent light, the center of the photo gets an awful blue-green tinge, then it goes away towards the edges.
I don't know if Apple's goal is to make a "universal" iPhone 5 that can be used on either Verizon Wireless's CDMA network or AT&T's GSM network but it would be like Apple to be the paradigm breaker in creating that kind of phone. At the very least, I hope they are addressing the lack of "world phone" capability in the current Verizon iPhone 4. RIM has that functionality covered quite well and it wouldn't surprise me if Apple is trying to catch up to RIM in that regard. It certainly can explain the baseband chip change all by itself.
The problem with your shot is you have exterior light mixing with interior light, both have very different color temperatures, and that's very hard or impossible to mix well without post processing.
Well I am not a photographer by any means, just point and shoot, but it is disappointing to have this happen. I asked several bystanders to take pics with their cell phones/point and shoot/dSLR cameras and best I could see, only the iPhone 4 had this blut tint. A couple were Android devices, one crap blackberry phone (which of course was horrible anyways), Canon point, and shoot and a Mark II something dSLR (which I think is overkill for internal shots like this). None had the blue tint, so I guess they do something different.
Oh well. Maybe I should learn something about post processing to clean these photos up and remove that tint. There are several like that. If anyone has any tips, just PM me.
As for this thread, I will be keeping my i4 and not updating until my contract runs out in summer 2012.
This rumour is shaping up to look legit, but why the change in the release cycle? I can’t imagine this speed bump will have affected the release schedule by a full season.
Some ideas that cross my mind:
Do you think perhaps, as others have suggested, this maybe the iPhone 4s rather than 5?
BTW, I'd like to see an option to totally update/ backup /sync an iPhone or an iPad via wi-fi to a Mac as an option to a direct link. Heck I transfer well over 10 gigs regularly via my AE between Macs on my network.
Off Topic: Why is AI soooo slow these days?
The example photo doesn't show the problem well. With interior fluorescent light, the center of the photo gets an awful blue-green tinge, then it goes away towards the edges.
It's the light from the sun (coming through the roof), hence the blue tint. And I think you meant incandescent.
Well I am not a photographer by any means, just point and shoot, but it is disappointing to have this happen. I asked several bystanders to take pics with their cell phones/point and shoot/dSLR cameras and best I could see, only the iPhone 4 had this blut tint. A couple were Android devices, one crap blackberry phone (which of course was horrible anyways), Canon point, and shoot and a Mark II something dSLR (which I think is overkill for internal shots like this). None had the blue tint, so I guess they do something different.
Oh well. Maybe I should learn something about post processing to clean these photos up and remove that tint. There are several like that. If anyone has any tips, just PM me.
As for this thread, I will be keeping my i4 and not updating until my contract runs out in summer 2012.
I suspect you are seeing the result of a 'feature' not a problem. The iPhone 4's ability to actually show the brighter outside while managing to expose the darker areas in a single shot. In most cameras the highlights would blow out or the shadows would go dark depending on your aperture. If you read up on the iPhone 4's system it is using a special technique now also available on high end Nikons etc. to do this (simply put, an extraordinarily extended dynamic rage). I won't elaborate here as it has all been discussed on this forum many times. White balancing in traditional photography hasn't had to deal with this before since one couldn't photograph both the highlights and shadows with different lighting temperatures, in the same image. Your picture obviously is showing this really well
If you think about it you are seeing reality in a photograph rather than what you have become accustomed to due to the limitations of cameras in the past. The temperature of light really is different between the outside and the artificial lights. There are web sites out there from a few years ago featuring such images that took very expensive software and the combination of three HD images (taken with different apertures) to achieve this same result. People flocked to them as the images were so amazing. Now you are complaining
Well I am not a photographer by any means, just point and shoot, but it is disappointing to have this happen. I asked several bystanders to take pics with their cell phones/point and shoot/dSLR cameras and best I could see, only the iPhone 4 had this blut tint. A couple were Android devices, one crap blackberry phone (which of course was horrible anyways), Canon point, and shoot and a Mark II something dSLR (which I think is overkill for internal shots like this). None had the blue tint, so I guess they do something different.
If it did not get blue from the sun then that mean it did not get the main light right (the room will be more reddish), or most likely you didn't look closely. I shoot with DSLR and your picture is normal.