Researchers raise privacy concerns over location tracking in Apple's iOS 4

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  • Reply 41 of 137
    modemode Posts: 163member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TheMacadvocate View Post


    What is it you think Jobs and Obama were talking about at that technology innovators' dinner? THEY WERE SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER!!



    /cue string crescendo



    Talking about the several visits Obama made to SJ personal residence.



    /cue string crescendo
  • Reply 42 of 137
    Uuuuuh, who the he'll cares? It doesn't record your actual location and it's hidden on your computer or phone. Physical access = all access. Besides, so what? What is there to hide? I don't care if people know *about* where I've been, I'll post my map on flickr... I would really just like to know why when somebody says 'iPhone recording location data' and suddenly it's this huge privacy concern and all this sh1t, so what? Why does everybody freak out when it's not even being sent to anyone? I would just like to know.
  • Reply 43 of 137
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    Originally Posted by Mode View Post


    Do your homework before you make yourself look like more of a moron.



    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...ps-monitoring/



    So you?re saying that consolidated.db was devised by the Obama administration and forced upon Apple for the sole purpose of tracking users? Where is the proof of this? Where is the proof that the file is used for anything other than network quality?
  • Reply 44 of 137
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    Originally Posted by srathi View Post


    Awesome! No more complaining from iFans about Privacy flaws in Android. It is unbelievable that Apple is doing such a thing intentionally. \



    HUH? Every time you use your cell phone, its location is written to a usage log somewhere; why is this news to anyone?



    Second, how many people go around synching their iOS device to more than one computer? Very few.



    Third, who the he** cares where I've been; if you're going places that you think should be private, chances are you ought to be locked up anyway. Don't want someone knowing you go to strip clubs? Don't GO to them.



    As someone wisely said, cue the Apple-haters and the Anroid fanbois.
  • Reply 45 of 137
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    Originally Posted by chronster View Post


    You mean cue the Apple excuse makers?



    This has nothing to do with Android, and your first comment here is a clear attempt to divert the topic off course into a flame war.



    What the hell is wrong with you? jk i already know



    And here we have him, the Android fanboy. Sad; he should go play in his own sandbox.
  • Reply 46 of 137
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    Originally Posted by Mode View Post


    Can't apologize this one away - it is what it is... Government spying on its citizens.



    Apple products are going to be re-branded by the public replacing the 'I' with 'spy'.



    At least now there is some transparency on why Obama and SJ met. Obama has been pushing for more warrantlees domestic spying powers. What better way to get people to willfully, and unexpectedly, participate then to plant it in coveted technology.



    Last straw for me. Sold.

    I don't invest in unethical stocks.



    I know this post is going to get trashed - I also know that regardless of what the usual apologists say, deep down it's bothering their conscious. There has to be a point where freedom and liberty are valued more then profit. Some cross that line before others I guess.



    This is no random mistake. This is very intentional. As soon as Obama gets the go-ahead for warrantless wi-fi and cellular spying - this data will be collected and used.



    You're right, your stupid post is definitely going to be trashed, because it's moronic.



    To begin with: the huge privacy violations began after 9/11, long before President Obama took office. So that negates your first STUPID comment.



    Second, if you don't invest in unethical stocks, then pray tell, what do you invest in? Answer: you don't, because you're a moron.



    Third, what in the he** does this have to do with President Obama, anyway? The guy meets with thousands of people everyday, including heads of state; so if he meets with the prime minister of Great Britain, and then Britain has a riot one day, it's somehow his fault? You're on the wrong forum pal, you need to go back to watching (what's left of) Glenn Beck.



    Fourth: yes, it's intentional. It's also not disseminated (look it up, it's in the dictionary).



    Lastly, what are you doing on this forum if you hate Apple products? Are you one of those who has nothing better to do than to try to stir up arguments, thinking this somehow elevates you to more than the imbecile status to which you so vehemently cling?
  • Reply 47 of 137
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    Originally Posted by Menno View Post


    Apple disclosed that they were gathering real time location data, and what they were using it for. I don't believe they disclosed that the data was unencrypted (from what I've read).







    To R Daneel Olivaw (ETO), let me just clarify that the reason this is news is not that iOS4 is tracking you. The reason it's news is that the data they're gathering wasn't encrypted.



    I agree that the issue is that it is unencrypted, but I also believe that people were jumping to incorrect conclusions about this data. This to me looks more like an oversight than a major violation of privacy that some people are trying to make it out to be.



    From what I have read so far you set your setting correctly this data will no longer be gathered. You can also purge this information. (I know a rooted phone can and haven't attempted it on a non-rooted phone.)



    On your computer your backups can already be encrypted which resolves the issue there.



    Next you just bug Apple until they resolve the issue and encrypt the file.



    As for the Obama/Justice Department stuff that is just crazy talk and I'm no Obama fan. They sure as heck don't need this file from your iPhone. This information is already available via your cell phone service provider.
  • Reply 48 of 137
    Great. Now Google knows. Expect the iOS Google App to stream that file to the mothership. You know, they can't help but violate your privacy...it's like a nervous tick.



    I'll remember to turn off my phone before I commit the perfect crime
  • Reply 49 of 137
    adonissmuadonissmu Posts: 1,774member
    What does Obama have to do with this? #IJUSTCANT



    Are they sure it isn't just people saying they don't want location based services yet they want to be able to locate their lost phone?
  • Reply 50 of 137
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post


    I'll remember to turn off my phone before I commit the perfect crime



    That looks suspicious. Tie it to your dog or cat and let it roam around your home.



    Buy a burner phone, have it forwarded to some other number so it doesn’t tie you to the area, call yourself at home and have it auto answer with an app you make so it can seem like you were home on the phone when the crime was committed. But don’t make the call happen exactly when the crime took place, just make it close enough that it would be impossible for you to have been in both places in that time frame.



    Also, don’t commit crimes.
  • Reply 51 of 137
    adonissmuadonissmu Posts: 1,774member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mode View Post


    Can't apologize this one away - it is what it is... Government spying on its citizens.



    Apple products are going to be re-branded by the public replacing the 'I' with 'spy'.



    At least now there is some transparency on why Obama and SJ met. Obama has been pushing for more warrantlees domestic spying powers. What better way to get people to willfully, and unexpectedly, participate then to plant it in coveted technology.



    Last straw for me. Sold.

    I don't invest in unethical stocks.



    I know this post is going to get trashed - I also know that regardless of what the usual apologists say, deep down it's bothering their conscious. There has to be a point where freedom and liberty are valued more then profit. Some cross that line before others I guess.



    This is no random mistake. This is very intentional. As soon as Obama gets the go-ahead for warrantless wi-fi and cellular spying - this data will be collected and used.



    ROTFL!!! Sarcasm is fun. Most here won't get it but I do.
  • Reply 52 of 137
    hellacoolhellacool Posts: 759member
    The apologist are amazing. Bottomline, if this data is no big deal, why collect it in he first place? Why store it at all? I just downloaded the app on my wife's Mac and showed her. She did not like it. Does she have anything to hide, no but the thought that anyone with access can see where she has been the last year is unsettling. It is garbage they are doing this and I am very anxious to see what the reasoning is. Oh, wait until the EU gets wind of this.
  • Reply 53 of 137
    adonissmuadonissmu Posts: 1,774member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hellacool View Post


    The apologist are amazing. Bottomline, if this data is no big deal, why collect it in he first place? Why store it at all? I just downloaded the app on my wife's Mac and showed her. She did not like it. Does she have anything to hide, no but the thought that anyone with access can see where she has been the last year is unsettling. It is garbage they are doing this and I am very anxious to see what the reasoning is. Oh, wait until the EU gets wind of this.



    Apple will have to stop gathering data on users when the gathering is against the user's wishes.
  • Reply 54 of 137
    hellacoolhellacool Posts: 759member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Menno View Post


    Apple disclosed that they were gathering real time location data, and what they were using it for. I don't believe they disclosed that the data was unencrypted (from what I've read).







    To R Daneel Olivaw (ETO), let me just clarify that the reason this is news is not that iOS4 is tracking you. The reason it's news is that the data they're gathering wasn't encrypted.



    What is Apples reasoning for collecting the data?
  • Reply 55 of 137
    hellacoolhellacool Posts: 759member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AdonisSMU;


    Apple will have to stop gathering data on users when the gathering is against the user's wishes.



    Well I thought turning off location data did that, guess not.
  • Reply 56 of 137
    kibitzerkibitzer Posts: 1,114member
    Man, what a gold mine this can be for private investigators and plaintiffs' attorneys in divorce cases! Almost as good as the Cheaters television reality series!



    (Coincidental postscript. While writing this I saw a CNN report about Michigan state troopers extracting data from motorists' cell phones during traffic stops. The ACLU believes this may violate 4th Amendment protections against unreasonable searches and seizures.)
  • Reply 57 of 137
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hellacool View Post


    What is Apples reasoning for collecting the data?



    Did you bother to read the article and comments? Or the article it referenced and the comments there? People have already linked the reasons that Apple gave. Which by the way happened last year.
  • Reply 58 of 137
    stevetimstevetim Posts: 482member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Menno View Post


    Apple disclosed that they were gathering real time location data, and what they were using it for. I don't believe they disclosed that the data was unencrypted (from what I've read).







    To R Daneel Olivaw (ETO), let me just clarify that the reason this is news is not that iOS4 is tracking you. The reason it's news is that the data they're gathering wasn't encrypted.



    Can you tell me where apple disclosed that they are gathering real time location data and storing it on the phone?
  • Reply 59 of 137
    Question is, does this logging STILL occur if you turn off the master Location Services switch?! Anyone tested this?
  • Reply 60 of 137
    mennomenno Posts: 854member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hellacool View Post


    What is Apples reasoning for collecting the data?



    Advertising mainly, just like most other companies. They actually have a pretty standard contract for it. Personal data is anonymized and/or aggregated before being used to provide locally relevant ads and information to you (that the user opts in for).



    Their reasoning for collecting the data is largely harmless (as long as this file is related to that, which I think it is)
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