Once again the Army shows its predilection for cutting edge technology. When "open" Android becomes the Windows of mobile OS's, virus ridden and hacked to death, the enemy will be selling "find your friend, the soldier" apps on the Android Store.
The Navy wised up a few years ago and switched from Windows PCs to Macs for their more sensitive work.
No kidding...short sighted...must've got them for free, or LESS!
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Originally Posted by nkalu
They got it wrong again. It is the Army's loss. Sorry!
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Originally Posted by Pennywse
Just pathetic ... I can't believe the Army went with the Android mess. Come on!
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Originally Posted by Gunslinger
No surprise, they got all excited by the commercials of robots and spaceships.
Probably...or payola!
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How is that any different from the tracking bug on the iPhone?
I suppose they went with Android because it would be easier to customize for their needs. I wonder how this will turn out.
I think it was strictly money, and I have a feeling it's going to turn out badly...
Hard to believe people are still fighting this...Mac will win.
Neat. So the army will make an Android device that will also be completely incompatible witch all other Android devices (like about 1/3 to 1/2 the phones). Analysts and fans will happily tack another million on to the market share for the platform...
here's a reason the US Army is the world's largest Red Hat installation, helping that company reach $1 billion in sales this year.
I don't want the US military using any OS they can't have the source code for.
If they were advanced enough to recompile the the source code, why would they purchase Ret Hat? The only thing that Red Hat offers is service and support contracts. If they were intent on modding the OS they should just start with CentOS which is exactly the same as Red Hat without the service contract.
Anyway, the OS is not the issue with Android. It's that the App market is more of a wild west compared to the insulated iOS market. Apps are vetted by Apple on an individual basis. Google does not.
You can find the same types of security issues with iOS when users jailbreak their phones and load unapproved 3rd party apps. Does that make iOS the problem?
It?s simple. There is more prestige and, previously, a better prize associated with hacking Apple?s OSes. It?s partially Apple?s fault for their marketing, but it?s mostly the user?s fault for taking general marketing claims as facts. Apple has never said that OS X is unhackable or that OS X can?t get viruses.
I don't know why you'd feel there's more prestige in hacking an OS that's already been hacked every previous year, versus one that hasn't yet been breached and pays $10,000 to the first one successful at it. That's doesn't make sense at all to me.
This may be a dumb question, but wouldn't the amount of cell phone activity from a given area indicate that something was (or was not) happening in that area -- and couldn't we (or the enemy) use that to their advantage?
AIR, the US was using cell traffic to track Ben Ladin.
... something about smoke and fire... or there must be a pony here, somewhere.
"Vreugdenhil and other organizers were not surprised that the iPhone went down quickly. It has been a major target and a lot of research has already been done on that platform.?
"Vreugdenhil and other organizers were not surprised that the iPhone went down quickly. It has been a major target and a lot of research has already been done on that platform.?
Which is what I was saying.
And the same report said the organizers were surprised that neither Android nor Chrome went down. Which is what I was saying.
And the same report said the organizers were surprised that neither Android nor Chrome went down. Which is what I was saying.
Your assumption is predicated on the fallacy that the same amount of time and effort is put into the attack on each, which even the organizers say is not the case.
For instance, shooting a .45 at bulletproofs jackets to show which ones are effective at stopping a .45 is a controlled test. It shows clear and concise results. But shooting a .22 at one, a .45 at another, and an RPG at yet another is not a controlled test.
This is the downfall of Pwn2Own and all such tests. With so much emphasis on Apple for their near mindshare monopoly it’s clear there is little effort on the other platforms. That does not mean that Apple’s code is superior or inferior as their testing method does not allow for any such conclusion. I’d only be surprised by their results if Apple’s products are not toppled first.
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I really wish people who have never even touched an iPhone would stop making stupid comments about things they don't understand.
Likewise with people who haven't even used an Android phone.
Once again the Army shows its predilection for cutting edge technology. When "open" Android becomes the Windows of mobile OS's, virus ridden and hacked to death, the enemy will be selling "find your friend, the soldier" apps on the Android Store.
The Navy wised up a few years ago and switched from Windows PCs to Macs for their more sensitive work.
No kidding...short sighted...must've got them for free, or LESS!
They got it wrong again. It is the Army's loss. Sorry!
Just pathetic ... I can't believe the Army went with the Android mess. Come on!
No surprise, they got all excited by the commercials of robots and spaceships.
Probably...or payola!
How is that any different from the tracking bug on the iPhone?
I suppose they went with Android because it would be easier to customize for their needs. I wonder how this will turn out.
I think it was strictly money, and I have a feeling it's going to turn out badly...
Hard to believe people are still fighting this...Mac will win.
Cheers,
Cameron
All 548,000 of them?
What goes so very wrong in someone's mind that they'd post a slam like that against so many people working so hard for his benefit?
If Apple won that contract you drones would be falling all over yourselves with praise for the military.
Just another double-standard here in AI-land....
I agree with your post, but frankie may not be American.
here's a reason the US Army is the world's largest Red Hat installation, helping that company reach $1 billion in sales this year.
I don't want the US military using any OS they can't have the source code for.
If they were advanced enough to recompile the the source code, why would they purchase Ret Hat? The only thing that Red Hat offers is service and support contracts. If they were intent on modding the OS they should just start with CentOS which is exactly the same as Red Hat without the service contract.
You lost me on that one Solipcism.
Anyway, the OS is not the issue with Android. It's that the App market is more of a wild west compared to the insulated iOS market. Apps are vetted by Apple on an individual basis. Google does not.
You can find the same types of security issues with iOS when users jailbreak their phones and load unapproved 3rd party apps. Does that make iOS the problem?
It?s simple. There is more prestige and, previously, a better prize associated with hacking Apple?s OSes. It?s partially Apple?s fault for their marketing, but it?s mostly the user?s fault for taking general marketing claims as facts. Apple has never said that OS X is unhackable or that OS X can?t get viruses.
AIR, the US was using cell traffic to track Ben Ladin.
... something about smoke and fire... or there must be a pony here, somewhere.
And I was wrong about the $10,000 bonus to the first successful Android hacker.
It was $20,000.
No surprise, they got all excited by the commercials of robots and spaceships.
True. And they do like to blow stuff up.
that's an old one. This years results are here: http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/mobile/...red/index.html
Which is what I was saying.
And the same report said the organizers were surprised that neither Android nor Chrome went down. Which is what I was saying.
And the same report said the organizers were surprised that neither Android nor Chrome went down. Which is what I was saying.
Your assumption is predicated on the fallacy that the same amount of time and effort is put into the attack on each, which even the organizers say is not the case.
For instance, shooting a .45 at bulletproofs jackets to show which ones are effective at stopping a .45 is a controlled test. It shows clear and concise results. But shooting a .22 at one, a .45 at another, and an RPG at yet another is not a controlled test.
This is the downfall of Pwn2Own and all such tests. With so much emphasis on Apple for their near mindshare monopoly it’s clear there is little effort on the other platforms. That does not mean that Apple’s code is superior or inferior as their testing method does not allow for any such conclusion. I’d only be surprised by their results if Apple’s products are not toppled first.