Apple releases new iMac desktops with Intel Sandy Bridge CPUs, Thunderbolt ports

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  • Reply 41 of 311
    rob55rob55 Posts: 1,291member
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    Originally Posted by jmmx View Post


    That is a significant number of people. And when you get a petition such as this, it usually means 10x as many or more also feel the same way...



    This reminds me of the line from the "PTV" episode of Family Guy where the FCC guy says, "Gentlemen, we got 20 calls about the David Hyde Pierce incident and as you know, 1 call equals a billion people..."



    In any event, I've had glossy screens on an iMac and two MacBook Pro's and I can't complain. Each to their own and all though. Can't wait to order a shiny new 27" model.
  • Reply 42 of 311
    ssquirrelssquirrel Posts: 1,196member
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    Originally Posted by Jerseymac View Post


    Is there any difference between the $199 version and the $79.99 version??



    About $120.
  • Reply 43 of 311
    iguesssoiguessso Posts: 132member
    Interesting that the front page at apple.com is showing.... The white iPhone 4.



    We are definitely in a different era.
  • Reply 44 of 311
    bigmac2bigmac2 Posts: 639member
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    Originally Posted by 4miler View Post


    No matte antiglare screens on the new iMacs. If you need matte screens, there's something you can do - add your voice to 1,300+ petitions at http://macmatte.wordpress.com Unlike personal emails to Apple - which Apple just ignore, asserting everyone loves glossy screens - make it count by adding to the online petition where your voice will remain visible on the net until Apple listens. Remember, adding your comment to transient news articles on the net is fine, but those articles go out of date in a few weeks, and also there is no long-term accumulation and consolidation of numbers, like there is at a petition site.



    Go buy a 20$ anti-glare screen protector and stop crying about apple not giving all the option you want.



    Apple doesnt got many option but one thing for sure, you know what you buy and you know you got a good computer in your hands. If you want options go to Dell or Acer and hope for the best.
  • Reply 45 of 311
    akf2000akf2000 Posts: 223member
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    Originally Posted by PXT View Post


    Oh, does that mean an iMac can function as a display for HDMI outputting devices?



    I had always assumed the mini-DisplayPort on an iMac was for output to an external display.

    I did not expect it to work the other way around. That's quite a selling point if it works, as it would give you a screen for a games console and BluRay and, in my case, an output for my spare DVR box.



    Sorry to sound skeptical, but does that actually work?



    Hi, yes this is a workaround solution using an aftermarket box as HDMI is not natively supported.



    There's a few conversion boxes on the market, I have the Kanex XD, it takes an HDMI source and outputs to Displayport BUT the iMac only supports 720p. It's great for saving desktop space but I'm not sure if this year's iMac will 1) even support this 2) improve the resolution.
  • Reply 46 of 311
    pxtpxt Posts: 683member
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    Originally Posted by SSquirrel View Post


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunder...28interface%29 has all the info.



    Thunderbolt to rule them all, Thunderbolt to find them.....heh



    Oh great. And from Apple's http://www.apple.com/thunderbolt/ ...



    "And because Thunderbolt is based on DisplayPort technology, the video standard for high-resolution displays, any Mini DisplayPort display plugs right into the Thunderbolt port. To connect a DisplayPort, DVI, HDMI, or VGA display, just use an existing adapter."



    So you need an adapter to get from a Thunderbolted Mac to a DisplayPort display, but no adapter to get from said Mac to any Thunderbolt device.



    No fork.
  • Reply 47 of 311
    iqatedoiqatedo Posts: 1,802member
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    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post


    Just out of curiosity is the desire for a non-glossy screen about reflections or the 'I use it for color accuracy' argument? If the former I'd say I far prefer the glossy and simply moving position or lighting. That one I guess is personal preferences. However, if the latter I would throw in my 2 cents ...



    I have worked with matte, calibrated Barco monitors with color temps and ambient light settings ... bla bla bla and color printing, press calibrations, dot gain and ink impurity corrections, proofs and the whole process. These days I turn around a brochure or a post card from the fast print shops on line using Photoshop and even (gasp) Pages (ok I admit I transfer to a PDF to Photoshop to convert to CMYK and correct color set up) and get amazing color fidelity using Apple's glossy screens. Technology has made the glossy screen totally ok for print work IMHO.



    Nice to see someone take the time to answer a concern that resulted from someone throwing their 2 cents in, albeit in a currency that is generally not accepted here! I wasn't a fan of the glossy screen but am getting quite used to it with my 27" iMac. (This current system is fantastic, the new ones will rock.)
  • Reply 48 of 311
    ssquirrelssquirrel Posts: 1,196member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by iGuessSo View Post


    Interesting that the front page at apple.com is showing.... The white iPhone 4.



    We are definitely in a different era.



    The new iMac has a box right below it, next to the iPad 2. New iMacs were an expectation and not bad machines even before the update. People have been bitching for the white iPhone a lot longer.







    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PXT View Post


    Oh great. And from Apple's http://www.apple.com/thunderbolt/ ...



    "And because Thunderbolt is based on DisplayPort technology, the video standard for high-resolution displays, any Mini DisplayPort display plugs right into the Thunderbolt port. To connect a DisplayPort, DVI, HDMI, or VGA display, just use an existing adapter."



    So you need an adapter to get from a Thunderbolted Mac to a DisplayPort display, but no adapter to get from said Mac to any Thunderbolt device.



    No fork.





    If the monitor has a Displayport rather than a Mini Displayport yes. Of course Thunderbolt will plug directly into other Thunderbolt slots.
  • Reply 49 of 311
    daharderdaharder Posts: 1,580member
    This is a surprisingly 'mild' refresh, and the addition of the Thunderbolt ports is fine, but it's not like there's much use for them at this point (See: the fate of FireWire 800)
  • Reply 50 of 311
    beastvincebeastvince Posts: 13member
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    Originally Posted by akf2000 View Post


    Does anyone know if this allows me to connect a PS3 at a resolution > 720p?



    I use a conversion box with my 2 year-old iMac for HDMI > DisplayPort but the 720p limitation is with the iMac.



    No graphic input anymore on the 27', just two outputs.
  • Reply 51 of 311
    beastvincebeastvince Posts: 13member
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    Originally Posted by AppleGreen View Post


    Is it possible to have 2 external displays?



    Yes on the 27'
  • Reply 52 of 311
    john.bjohn.b Posts: 2,740member
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    Originally Posted by PXT View Post


    Is the standard port for Thunderbolt equal to mini-DisplayPort?



    Or are we now talking about DisplayPort, mini-DisplayPort, Thunderbolt and mini-Thunderbolt?



    The Thunderbolt port is functionally identical to the mini-DisplayPort connector except is will also function as a daisy-chained high-speed data bus (faster than USB3, it's actually an external PCI bus). We're all still waiting for the Thunderbolt hardware to make that a reality. RSN...



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by PXT View Post


    Oh, does that mean an iMac can function as a display for HDMI outputting devices?

    ...

    Sorry to sound skeptical, but does that actually work?



    It did on the old 27" iMac but not the old 21.5" iMac. I imagine we'll get a fix on this in the next day or two.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by beastvince View Post


    No graphic input anymore on the 27', just two outputs.



    That would be a shame.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jerseymac View Post


    Is there any difference between the $199 version and the $79.99 version??



    There are licensing differences between the two and installation/updates are done differently, otherwise they are the same software.
  • Reply 53 of 311
    akf2000akf2000 Posts: 223member
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    Originally Posted by beastvince View Post


    No graphic input anymore on the 27', just two outputs.



    Damn!
  • Reply 54 of 311
    ssquirrelssquirrel Posts: 1,196member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post


    This is a surprisingly 'mild' refresh, and the addition of the Thunderbolt ports is fine, but it's not like there's much use for them at this point (See: the fate of FireWire 800)



    External hard drives and other items will be available by June. Apple will already have a pretty good Thunderbolt installed base by then.
  • Reply 55 of 311
    macinscottmacinscott Posts: 48member
    Decisions, decisions.



    Trying to decide if it's time to replace my 3-year old iMac for one of these new models. What to do?



    This summer, Lion will come out and in September Apple has their annual Back to School promo where they have been giving away a free iPod Touch. Wouldn't be much of a stretch to think that Apple will extend the promo with the option to take the value of the iPod Touch off a new iPad 2.



    That would be very tempting. So do I get the new iMac now or wait and get Lion preinstalled on a potentially spec-bumped iMac in Sept? Doubt my current iMac will lose much value in that time.
  • Reply 56 of 311
    mateus109mateus109 Posts: 24member
    Sorry but this looks completely hideous! They could have at least chosen a decent modern looking game (e.g. Portal2?)

  • Reply 57 of 311
    john.bjohn.b Posts: 2,740member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SSquirrel View Post


    External hard drives and other items will be available by June. Apple will already have a pretty good Thunderbolt installed base by then.



    They'll at least have me as part of the installed base of Thunderbolt as soon as they update the MacBook Air and the mini....
  • Reply 58 of 311
    macinscottmacinscott Posts: 48member
    Haven't seen too many Thunderbolt options for external HDs/Raids yet. Waiting for G-Technology to update their lineup. A G-Safe with Thunderbolt would be sweet!
  • Reply 59 of 311
    idaveidave Posts: 1,283member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SSquirrel View Post


    No it isn't. 1300 people isn't even 1% of their desktop sales last quarter. Hell, it isn't even 1/10th of a percent of their desktop sales. Apple doesn't listen to this group b/c it isn't significant enough to listen to. Even if it is 10x bigger than the petition, it's still under 1% of last quarter's sales. When you look at it from a yearly total, it's completely laughable.



    And that make you happy, why?



    If there are any people who don't like shiny glassy things, it's worth noting. The fact that these people (including myself) keep harping on it means we are genuinely annoyed by the issue. We can't buy iMacs! That's annoying. We'll keep bugging you and Apple about it until something is done. Except for the reflective screen, the new iMacs seem pretty nice, but I can't use one.



    The reflective screen issue is no less annoying than continued use of C2D processors in Mac minis, no backlit keyboards in MacBook Airs, crummy integrated GPUs in 13" MacBook Pros, no numeric keypad in the wireless keyboards, no xMac, etc.
  • Reply 60 of 311
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
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    Originally Posted by ksec View Post


    And there are no spec with 8GB default Ram, adding memory actually means it is expensive even of you do it yourself, since you have to throw away both slot in order to get 8GB.



    What are you talking about? There are 4 slots. Keep the 2, add another 8 and you get 12GB. Only if you want to go all the way up to 16GB will there be a point where you have to discard RAM. RAM that can easily be sold elsewhere.
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