I know Nielson supposedly knows what it is doing, but answer me this: What the hell is the difference between asking someone about any of the following features:
"Easy to carry / take with you"
"Can use in multiple locations"
"Lightweight"
"Convenience"
..and to a certain extent, "Size"
What a lame survey! The only thing I can't fathom is why %19 of respondents say "Easy to carry / take with you" but NOT "Can use in multiple locations." The whole thing is preposterous and meaningless.
Is anyone expecting non-iPad tablets to make a significant impact in the market the way Android did on the heals of iPhone, or are we seeing another iPod-like natural monopoly? I’ll wait for Honeycomb updates and iOS 5.0 before making any solid predictions but it’s not look good for Apple’s competitors.
probably the "other" category... there are tons of $100 tablets out there. plus there is the playbook... or maybe they count the nook color?
I love to see the rest of the field duking it out. With a humongous market it'll still be profitable for a lot of those single-digit percent players. You just have to wonder about their profit margins at this point, too.
Is anyone expecting non-iPad tablets to make a significant impact in the market the way Android did on the heals of iPhone, or are we seeing another iPod-like natural monopoly? I?ll wait for Honeycomb updates and iOS 5.0 before making any solid predictions but it?s not look good for Apple?s competitors.
I'd love to see one develop, of course, but the competition isn't bringing the same bone-headed designs and feature-creep like they did with MP3 players. Also, Apple keeps bringing amazing features such as Facetime that others have in only limited models or with small pools of users while Apple has it for everyone just like that.
I haven't touched an Android tablet yet but very few Android phones are designed nearly as single-mindedly and elegantly as the iPhone. Some would say it's an advantage to have all the choices with Android but, c'mon, the variety is as much about gee-whiz as it is about getting a product just right.
Some bells and whistles from Android phones that make me scratch my head - dual-screens, curved face, 3-D photos and video, slide-out keyboards - to mention just a few features that should have been left on the reject pile. While these features do sell phones, they just work to distinguish the phones from one another and they aren't improvements. [/soapbox]
I have trouble believing their numbers. Apple has sold at least 20 million iPads as of this point. If that is 82% of the market, 2% comes to ~0.5 million.
I doubt very much that a a half million Xooms (2% of the market) have been sold. Didn't Motorola say that so far, they've 'shipped' only 250,000?
Agreed. I've been thinking the same thing myself every time these types of numbers are shown.
I think The Daily will either fold or have to be re-concepted.
Would agree with this too. Personally, I just didn't see a reason for that magazine to exist, other than Apple and Fox wanted to make a magazine on the iPad.
I know Nielson supposedly knows what it is doing, but answer me this: What the hell is the difference between asking someone about any of the following features:
.
"Easy to carry / take with you" = right size, fits my briefcase, backpack, in my hand
"Can use in multiple locations" = multiple radios, easy to read in and outdoors, metro/bus, beach
"Lightweight" = rather carry this than my laptop, doesn't add much to my backpack
"Convenience" = boots quickly and has all my info right there unlike my full computer
..and to a certain extent, "Size" = don't have to scroll too much
See, it's easy for me to understand. These surveys are designed to identify trends and while a casual reader might not understand the distinction (heck, I doubt I fully do) I would imagine that hardware vendors pay very close attention to the distinctions and might want even more choices. Just taking a stab. I don't make surveys but can understand that interpreting the results can take work, too.
I hate being a statistic, but I'm definitely one of those people who are finding that the iPad is taking over the use of my computers at home. I have a PC and a laptop. The PC is a necessity for my gaming habits and MP3 organization. The laptop is used as a security camera in my house (the iCam app is awesome!). Beyond that, I now use my iPad for just about all the remaining computing needs in my house. It's instant on, quick to pull up what you need, and easy to use. I was thinking of upgrading my laptop (it's about 5 years old), but since I got the iPad a month ago, I have no reason to now.
82% seems low to me, but I guess there are quite a few different tablets out there. I wonder if most of those people regret their purchase. Samsung Galaxy...thanks a lot Santa
I used the Daily during it's free trial offer. I like the interface and found it easy to navigate. It had some interesting articles and looks beautiful on the iPad. But with all the sources of news out there (I love google new, and the Bing app is pretty nice too), and other free news apps like USA Today, I just don't ever seeing myself paying $.99 a week for the Daily unless they can provide something that I can't get anywhere else.
Is anyone expecting non-iPad tablets to make a significant impact in the market the way Android did on the heals of iPhone, or are we seeing another iPod-like natural monopoly? I?ll wait for Honeycomb updates and iOS 5.0 before making any solid predictions but it?s not look good for Apple?s competitors.
That's a very interesting question.
I recently heard the definition of two new verbs:
1) to iPod -- to enter an existing market late and then to dominate (Tim Bajarin)
2) to Ballmer -- to kiss oneself on the ass... from the inside
As to the Android tabs (or QNX, WM7, WebOS) -- what can they offer that the iPad doesn't already have?
Then there's full Windows for tablets -- already proven to be a failure.
Apple has economies of scale, control of the supply chain that competitors can't match.
You don't buy a tablet for the same reasons you [have to] buy a phone.
By eliminating the carriers as a major marketing vehicle -- Apple has managed to force others to match price (rather than being buried in some subsidy).
Finally, I can't help but think that there are other shoes that Apple can drop in the tablet arena.
... By eliminating the carriers as a major marketing vehicle -- Apple has managed to force others to match price (rather than being buried in some subsidy). ...
I think what this really shows is that the sole reason for Android's success to date is carrier marketing. On its own, it has no legs.
I read The Daily every morning with my first cup of coffee. I find it well worth fifteen cents a day. They're doing some truly great things with the interface, it gives me a good news summary, the photos are very well done - all in all it's a nice warmup to the day's news.
It's not the nytimes but it was never meant to be. IMO it's way better than USA Today, CNN, MSNBC et al. I agree they don't have a world class journalism staff that breaks stories or gives amazing insights to events. It is what it is and since the last few updates it's solid and bug free.
I don't think 800,000 downloads qualifies as a failure by any stretch. We don't know how many subscribers they retained but I bet they're reasonably pleased at this point.
With iPads reportedly replacing laptop use for for a significant percentage of owners, I'll be curious to see how MacBook sales hold up over the next few quarters. Definitely conceivable that buyers in the market for a quality Apple product may decide that a MacBook isn't as necessary with the iPad as a purchasing option, and for less money.
In that case i am screwing up the stats since i am replacing desktops by laptops. So even if i am using my ipad a lot, i still bought a laptop. In my case its the imac that is getting hit.
I know Nielson supposedly knows what it is doing, but answer me this: What the hell is the difference between asking someone about any of the following features:
"Easy to carry / take with you"
"Can use in multiple locations"
"Lightweight"
"Convenience"
..and to a certain extent, "Size"
What a lame survey! The only thing I can't fathom is why %19 of respondents say "Easy to carry / take with you" but NOT "Can use in multiple locations." The whole thing is preposterous and meaningless.
So there.
They didn't even factor in "portability", "enhanced mobility", "movability", and "lack of heaviness". This survey is incomplete - we'd have a much better feel for what users want if they had just covered those too!
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I think The Daily will either fold or have to be re-concepted. The old models don't work as an app.
I took a first look and did not like it. It will not be a "Newspaper" until it has comics! Preferably a selection you can chose yourself.
Hey, there is a good idea for an app... ALL DAILY COMICS!
Glad his junk news vehicle is losing money.
"Easy to carry / take with you"
"Can use in multiple locations"
"Lightweight"
"Convenience"
..and to a certain extent, "Size"
What a lame survey! The only thing I can't fathom is why %19 of respondents say "Easy to carry / take with you" but NOT "Can use in multiple locations." The whole thing is preposterous and meaningless.
So there.
probably the "other" category... there are tons of $100 tablets out there. plus there is the playbook... or maybe they count the nook color?
I love to see the rest of the field duking it out. With a humongous market it'll still be profitable for a lot of those single-digit percent players. You just have to wonder about their profit margins at this point, too.
Is anyone expecting non-iPad tablets to make a significant impact in the market the way Android did on the heals of iPhone, or are we seeing another iPod-like natural monopoly? I?ll wait for Honeycomb updates and iOS 5.0 before making any solid predictions but it?s not look good for Apple?s competitors.
I'd love to see one develop, of course, but the competition isn't bringing the same bone-headed designs and feature-creep like they did with MP3 players. Also, Apple keeps bringing amazing features such as Facetime that others have in only limited models or with small pools of users while Apple has it for everyone just like that.
I haven't touched an Android tablet yet but very few Android phones are designed nearly as single-mindedly and elegantly as the iPhone. Some would say it's an advantage to have all the choices with Android but, c'mon, the variety is as much about gee-whiz as it is about getting a product just right.
Some bells and whistles from Android phones that make me scratch my head - dual-screens, curved face, 3-D photos and video, slide-out keyboards - to mention just a few features that should have been left on the reject pile. While these features do sell phones, they just work to distinguish the phones from one another and they aren't improvements. [/soapbox]
I have trouble believing their numbers. Apple has sold at least 20 million iPads as of this point. If that is 82% of the market, 2% comes to ~0.5 million.
I doubt very much that a a half million Xooms (2% of the market) have been sold. Didn't Motorola say that so far, they've 'shipped' only 250,000?
Agreed. I've been thinking the same thing myself every time these types of numbers are shown.
I think The Daily will either fold or have to be re-concepted.
Would agree with this too. Personally, I just didn't see a reason for that magazine to exist, other than Apple and Fox wanted to make a magazine on the iPad.
I know Nielson supposedly knows what it is doing, but answer me this: What the hell is the difference between asking someone about any of the following features:
.
"Easy to carry / take with you" = right size, fits my briefcase, backpack, in my hand
"Can use in multiple locations" = multiple radios, easy to read in and outdoors, metro/bus, beach
"Lightweight" = rather carry this than my laptop, doesn't add much to my backpack
"Convenience" = boots quickly and has all my info right there unlike my full computer
..and to a certain extent, "Size" = don't have to scroll too much
See, it's easy for me to understand. These surveys are designed to identify trends and while a casual reader might not understand the distinction (heck, I doubt I fully do) I would imagine that hardware vendors pay very close attention to the distinctions and might want even more choices. Just taking a stab. I don't make surveys but can understand that interpreting the results can take work, too.
82% seems low to me, but I guess there are quite a few different tablets out there. I wonder if most of those people regret their purchase. Samsung Galaxy...thanks a lot Santa
I used the Daily during it's free trial offer. I like the interface and found it easy to navigate. It had some interesting articles and looks beautiful on the iPad. But with all the sources of news out there (I love google new, and the Bing app is pretty nice too), and other free news apps like USA Today, I just don't ever seeing myself paying $.99 a week for the Daily unless they can provide something that I can't get anywhere else.
Is anyone expecting non-iPad tablets to make a significant impact in the market the way Android did on the heals of iPhone, or are we seeing another iPod-like natural monopoly? I?ll wait for Honeycomb updates and iOS 5.0 before making any solid predictions but it?s not look good for Apple?s competitors.
That's a very interesting question.
I recently heard the definition of two new verbs:
1) to iPod -- to enter an existing market late and then to dominate (Tim Bajarin)
2) to Ballmer -- to kiss oneself on the ass... from the inside
As to the Android tabs (or QNX, WM7, WebOS) -- what can they offer that the iPad doesn't already have?
Then there's full Windows for tablets -- already proven to be a failure.
Apple has economies of scale, control of the supply chain that competitors can't match.
You don't buy a tablet for the same reasons you [have to] buy a phone.
By eliminating the carriers as a major marketing vehicle -- Apple has managed to force others to match price (rather than being buried in some subsidy).
Finally, I can't help but think that there are other shoes that Apple can drop in the tablet arena.
does it count if you use your iMac through an iPad remote desktop app?
Heh, ok that's a good question.
I must admit, I haven't done that. But I suppose it would have to count as using both, right?
... By eliminating the carriers as a major marketing vehicle -- Apple has managed to force others to match price (rather than being buried in some subsidy). ...
I think what this really shows is that the sole reason for Android's success to date is carrier marketing. On its own, it has no legs.
It's not the nytimes but it was never meant to be. IMO it's way better than USA Today, CNN, MSNBC et al. I agree they don't have a world class journalism staff that breaks stories or gives amazing insights to events. It is what it is and since the last few updates it's solid and bug free.
I don't think 800,000 downloads qualifies as a failure by any stretch. We don't know how many subscribers they retained but I bet they're reasonably pleased at this point.
With iPads reportedly replacing laptop use for for a significant percentage of owners, I'll be curious to see how MacBook sales hold up over the next few quarters. Definitely conceivable that buyers in the market for a quality Apple product may decide that a MacBook isn't as necessary with the iPad as a purchasing option, and for less money.
In that case i am screwing up the stats since i am replacing desktops by laptops. So even if i am using my ipad a lot, i still bought a laptop. In my case its the imac that is getting hit.
Start up costs, one month in are hardly definable as losses .... yet.
I know Nielson supposedly knows what it is doing, but answer me this: What the hell is the difference between asking someone about any of the following features:
"Easy to carry / take with you"
"Can use in multiple locations"
"Lightweight"
"Convenience"
..and to a certain extent, "Size"
What a lame survey! The only thing I can't fathom is why %19 of respondents say "Easy to carry / take with you" but NOT "Can use in multiple locations." The whole thing is preposterous and meaningless.
So there.
They didn't even factor in "portability", "enhanced mobility", "movability", and "lack of heaviness". This survey is incomplete - we'd have a much better feel for what users want if they had just covered those too!
I think The Daily will either fold or have to be re-concepted.
Heh!
Re-concepted, re-purposed, re-imagined, re-released, re-fused.