It is true that LG was once known as Lucky GoldStar. But about 10 years ago the company went through a multimillion dollar campaign to rebrand themselves simply as LG. They dropped the Lucky GoldStar and now claim the LG stands for "Life's Good". The quality of manufacture has gone up, since the Lucky GoldStar days.
I had no idea that LG was GoldStar. GoldStar was always third tier if that high as far as I was concerned - that was who made the little TVs or VCRs that you could by for about 70% or less of what 2nd quality stuff was. That was always like what the guys at KMart would even tell you was crap - and KMart sold a lot of crap - but even GoldStar was below their standards.
I looked at LG TV's when I bought my new 50" for the MBR last year and ended up with Sony's top end product and couldn't be happier. The LG and nothing else could stand up to Sony's (say what you will about Sony but in my book they still have the best picture around - there menu system and software sucks but I don't have to deal with it much).
Sony is good. I heard that Sony and Samsung share flat panels factories in China.
My wife has a 32gb Ipad 2 (ATT); I have the 64 ATT. Both have minor light leakage. Purchased in early April. Waiting for this issue to be resolved fully before I return them.
I bought an LG 50" plasma about 4 years ago. I bought it primarily because it had a great feature set for the price (it was probably about 30% cheaper than competing sets from Sharp, Sony etc).
I bought an extended warranty for it at purchase which came in handy when the screen started to show some odd discolouration after a couple of years. I had the controller board replaced under the warranty (on-site, very handy!) and since then the picture has been flawless.
I can't imagine upgrading anytime soon (other than having to buy an HDMI switcher box to accommodate some more HDMI devices) - it continues to perform perfectly.
I would very happily buy another LG panel, particularly if they retain their price advantage of many of their competitors.
Has any one be able to get a replacement iPad 2 do to this issue?
For the most part on my iPad 2 i did not notice this issue until I viewed some photos and a movie that did not take up the whole screen. There is definite light leakage and can be really annoying watching a movie in a dark room.
I had mine replaced for this issue. My light bleed was not that bad. I had to wait 2 or 3 weeks for my replacement to show up. The new unit is flawless.
I used to work for BEST Catalog Showrooms in the 1980s in the warehouse, pulling orders and processing returns during off-peak hours.
The rate of return for Goldstar and Emerson products was extraordinary. We shipped an enormous quantity of Goldstar and Emerson TVs and VCRs back to the main distribution center for warranty credit. Lots of products were dead straight out-of-the-box, and the rest seemed to die within a couple of weeks. It seemed we received nearly as many back as returns than we sold. My defect area had almost as many Goldstar and Emerson products as the new stock area.
I didn't know this at the time, but Emerson was buying their televisions from Goldstar and branding them under the Emerson name. No wonder they were equally as bad!
I resolved back in 1986 to never buy anything manufactured by Goldstar or Emerson again, and I've kept that vow.
Apple is suing Samsung for allegedly copying their products. Does it really matter any more? When you go to the store and buy an iPad, you're effectively buying a Samsung tablet!
No.
How come Samsung's very own tablet(s) suck ass?
have they decided they'll reserve the best for Apple and put out crap when it comes to their own brand?
Apple is suing Samsung for allegedly copying their products. Does it really matter any more? When you go to the store and buy an iPad, you're effectively buying a Samsung tablet!
That's like saying that when you buy a Picasso, you're effectively buying a bunch of paint and a canvas.
have they decided they'll reserve the best for Apple and put out crap when it comes to their own brand?
That's actually the truth.
Samsung's component unit can make more money selling the best components to Apple instead of using those components for their own smartphones/tablets.
The only exception is the AMOLED PLUS screen, because they can only produce a small amount, it's of no use to Apple, so they use that for their own Galaxy phones.
I have the light leak issue. However given that I have to be without my iPad 2 for about a month waiting for a replacement... I think I'll hang on to mine for now.
Glad to see Apple has addressed the issue though, at least on the manufacturing side, and have been accepting this as a problem and replacing units for customers.
But just like with my iPhone 4 where I am, it will be an unknown number of weeks before replacements are given, for whatever reason for the iPhone and iPad respectively.
And I can't be without my iPhone 4 and iPad 2 nor my Mac. What times we live in!
Very easy test. In a dark room, put your iPad 2 flat on the table. Turn the brightness all the way up. Open the Camera and make sure you select the rear-facing camera. If there are light leaks you will see a "spotlight" coming from small corners or like a "pinching" of light on a black background. Rotate the iPad a bit so the silver bar at the bottom of the screen moves to a different part of the screen.
More accurately, download an image with pure black from Google, view this fullscreen in a dark room with the brightness all the way up.
BTW, Thank you very much LG, great job this time 'round. NOT.
have they decided they'll reserve the best for Apple and put out crap when it comes to their own brand?
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Originally Posted by drobforever
That's actually the truth.
Samsung's component unit can make more money selling the best components to Apple instead of using those components for their own smartphones/tablets.
The only exception is the AMOLED PLUS screen, because they can only produce a small amount, it's of no use to Apple, so they use that for their own Galaxy phones.
As someone mentioned, it's different businesses for starters. You're talking a huge manufacturing activity that produces all kinds of electronic components, compared with Samsung Mobile, which faces all the challenges that even Nokia, Microsoft, Moto, etc. are stumbling over.
AFAIK Samsung has been strong on the manufacturing side for a much longer time before deciding on producing their own wide range of mobile devices.
They've always had a good run with screens, in the late 90's I had my nice Samsung Syncmaster 15" CRT. Quite decent. Now I have a 21" flat panel version, more than 10 years later.
Samsung knows screens... The LG plasma and LCD flat panels of the past few years never seemed to have impressed me. Recently at home we went with a 46" 1080p LED-backlit Samsung HDTV. Not too bad so far.
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How does one verify if the screen is made by LG or Samsung?
If you have light leak, it's LG.
LG=lucky GoldStar
It is true that LG was once known as Lucky GoldStar. But about 10 years ago the company went through a multimillion dollar campaign to rebrand themselves simply as LG. They dropped the Lucky GoldStar and now claim the LG stands for "Life's Good". The quality of manufacture has gone up, since the Lucky GoldStar days.
Have you seen the new Samsung Smart TVs with the picture right up to the edge of the screen?
Wow they look good. I hope the next generation iMac follows this path if they buy the screens from Samsung.
That'd show them!
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I had no idea that LG was GoldStar. GoldStar was always third tier if that high as far as I was concerned - that was who made the little TVs or VCRs that you could by for about 70% or less of what 2nd quality stuff was. That was always like what the guys at KMart would even tell you was crap - and KMart sold a lot of crap - but even GoldStar was below their standards.
I looked at LG TV's when I bought my new 50" for the MBR last year and ended up with Sony's top end product and couldn't be happier. The LG and nothing else could stand up to Sony's (say what you will about Sony but in my book they still have the best picture around - there menu system and software sucks but I don't have to deal with it much).
Sony is good. I heard that Sony and Samsung share flat panels factories in China.
I bought an extended warranty for it at purchase which came in handy when the screen started to show some odd discolouration after a couple of years. I had the controller board replaced under the warranty (on-site, very handy!) and since then the picture has been flawless.
I can't imagine upgrading anytime soon (other than having to buy an HDMI switcher box to accommodate some more HDMI devices) - it continues to perform perfectly.
I would very happily buy another LG panel, particularly if they retain their price advantage of many of their competitors.
Has any one be able to get a replacement iPad 2 do to this issue?
For the most part on my iPad 2 i did not notice this issue until I viewed some photos and a movie that did not take up the whole screen. There is definite light leakage and can be really annoying watching a movie in a dark room.
I had mine replaced for this issue. My light bleed was not that bad. I had to wait 2 or 3 weeks for my replacement to show up. The new unit is flawless.
I used to work for BEST Catalog Showrooms in the 1980s in the warehouse, pulling orders and processing returns during off-peak hours.
The rate of return for Goldstar and Emerson products was extraordinary. We shipped an enormous quantity of Goldstar and Emerson TVs and VCRs back to the main distribution center for warranty credit. Lots of products were dead straight out-of-the-box, and the rest seemed to die within a couple of weeks. It seemed we received nearly as many back as returns than we sold. My defect area had almost as many Goldstar and Emerson products as the new stock area.
I didn't know this at the time, but Emerson was buying their televisions from Goldstar and branding them under the Emerson name. No wonder they were equally as bad!
I resolved back in 1986 to never buy anything manufactured by Goldstar or Emerson again, and I've kept that vow.
Wow. Thanks for sharing that!
Apple is suing Samsung for allegedly copying their products. Does it really matter any more? When you go to the store and buy an iPad, you're effectively buying a Samsung tablet!
No.
How come Samsung's very own tablet(s) suck ass?
have they decided they'll reserve the best for Apple and put out crap when it comes to their own brand?
Apple is suing Samsung for allegedly copying their products. Does it really matter any more? When you go to the store and buy an iPad, you're effectively buying a Samsung tablet!
That's like saying that when you buy a Picasso, you're effectively buying a bunch of paint and a canvas.
If you have light leak, it's LG.
And how does one verify that light leaks?
How come Samsung's very own tablet(s) suck ass?
have they decided they'll reserve the best for Apple and put out crap when it comes to their own brand?
That's actually the truth.
Samsung's component unit can make more money selling the best components to Apple instead of using those components for their own smartphones/tablets.
The only exception is the AMOLED PLUS screen, because they can only produce a small amount, it's of no use to Apple, so they use that for their own Galaxy phones.
Sony is good. I heard that Sony and Samsung share flat panels factories in China.
Sony uses Samsung's panels made in South Korea.
Sony uses Samsung's panels made in South Korea.
The point here is that, Sony is just a rebadged Samsung.
Glad to see Apple has addressed the issue though, at least on the manufacturing side, and have been accepting this as a problem and replacing units for customers.
But just like with my iPhone 4 where I am, it will be an unknown number of weeks before replacements are given, for whatever reason for the iPhone and iPad respectively.
And I can't be without my iPhone 4 and iPad 2 nor my Mac. What times we live in!
And how does one verify that light leaks?
Very easy test. In a dark room, put your iPad 2 flat on the table. Turn the brightness all the way up. Open the Camera and make sure you select the rear-facing camera. If there are light leaks you will see a "spotlight" coming from small corners or like a "pinching" of light on a black background. Rotate the iPad a bit so the silver bar at the bottom of the screen moves to a different part of the screen.
More accurately, download an image with pure black from Google, view this fullscreen in a dark room with the brightness all the way up.
BTW, Thank you very much LG, great job this time 'round. NOT.
How come Samsung's very own tablet(s) suck ass?
have they decided they'll reserve the best for Apple and put out crap when it comes to their own brand?
That's actually the truth.
Samsung's component unit can make more money selling the best components to Apple instead of using those components for their own smartphones/tablets.
The only exception is the AMOLED PLUS screen, because they can only produce a small amount, it's of no use to Apple, so they use that for their own Galaxy phones.
As someone mentioned, it's different businesses for starters. You're talking a huge manufacturing activity that produces all kinds of electronic components, compared with Samsung Mobile, which faces all the challenges that even Nokia, Microsoft, Moto, etc. are stumbling over.
AFAIK Samsung has been strong on the manufacturing side for a much longer time before deciding on producing their own wide range of mobile devices.
They've always had a good run with screens, in the late 90's I had my nice Samsung Syncmaster 15" CRT. Quite decent. Now I have a 21" flat panel version, more than 10 years later.
Samsung knows screens... The LG plasma and LCD flat panels of the past few years never seemed to have impressed me. Recently at home we went with a 46" 1080p LED-backlit Samsung HDTV. Not too bad so far.
Will they keep up the quality? We shall see.