I get the impression from Ms. Heaton (by various articles, interviews, etc.) that she isn't too concerned about her standing in Hollywood. She always seems to have her ducks in a row and speaks highly of her husband and four sons and doesn't appear to be caught up in that whole "star trip" thing in the least.
Just makes her seem extra cool and down-to-earth, if you ask me.
I believe she's one of those people who - if push came to shove - could gladly tell Hollywood to kiss off and she'd be happy being a mother and acting elsewhere.
She doesn't seem too encumbered by the trappings of stardom (or whatever it is that a so-so sitcom allows you).
THAT'S REFRESHING TO SEE!!! <--- Rant-O-Meter? Alert
She might've gotten booed or sneered at if she'd chosen the podium to express herself (she'd be no better than Gere, Sarandon and others who muck up awards shows with their personal politics). I heard they already had a dubbed voiceover thing for her part (you know these shows have to employ backup plans anyway), so they just ran that instead.
I'm pretty sure no one even knew she left or thought anything about it until the story came out about why she left.
Just makes me like her more. I saw her on Craig Kilborn a few weeks ago and she's very well-spoken and level-headed about her career. She's quite spunky.
Exactly, Paul. I thought it was an over-reaction when I had pointed it out. One of the greatest threads ever was a Pscates rant about his bad day getting tacos and waiting in line.
Well, now that we've cleared that small hurdle! Whew...
By the way, I just found out she has a book out. I don't know what it's about, but I'd be curious to check it out, in light of these events. Surely it's not fiction? Maybe a bio or some sort of lifestyle book?
Is she known for decorating or being a great cook?
<strong>Exactly, Paul. I thought it was over reaction when I had pointed it out. One of the greatest threads ever was a Pscates rant about his bad day getting tacos and waiting in line.
Wow, I don't even recall that. Sure it was me? Could've been. Was it Taco Bell? The one near my house is notoriously slow and unorganized (it's a 50/50 shot if they get your order right).
No, it was that "Better than Taco-Bell" place in SoCal. The one where the lady sprinted ahead of you, nudging you into the door and then she wasted all that time ordering.
You know me, I say you watch TV, you get what you deserve: I like to shit all over modern media if I can, like the internet, so why not TV? Sadly and rightly -- doubly sad because of it -- no one in their right mind will put this mug on TV, but if Ozzy can get on it, might as well piss on the audience a little.
8, 9, 10? If we wait for the average parent to get their kid into bed, we'll probably wait untill midnight; on a weekend, at least that much.
Actors/directors/screen writers etc etc... hate reality TV in all it's forms, hate it! Really really hate it because it exposes the deficiencies of what they do. Sure it isn't Truman Capote, but they ain't no Hemmingway either. Erm, Capote? Not quite, mebbe Hunter S. Thompson, and it isn't even that, but you get the idea -- it doesn't take much life, even set piece psuedo-life to upstage banal TV/lit conventions.
There's just something loveable about Ozzy's clan, yeast infections and all. Where's your sense of the carnivalesque? Aren't we talking about showbiz?
with the number/percentage of flakes and drug addicts in hollywood i'm sure they have a backup plan for EVERYONE they schedule for a show. never know when someone's going to drive into a telephone pole or something.
Wow, I don't even recall that. Sure it was me? Could've been. Was it Taco Bell? The one near my house is notoriously slow and unorganized (it's a 50/50 shot if they get your order right).
Hmm...probably WAS me then.
I did lose $10 to them one time.
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It was. It was some fish taco place. The lady in front of you couldn't make her mind up... and she had rushed in ahead of you to take her place in line, only to spend 5 minutes figuring out what a fish taco was.
Whoa, did I just remember all that? Why the hell can't I find my socks?
In fact, I remember making a remark about fish tacos... heh heh.
It WAS indeed Rubio's and it's all coming back to me now.
Okay, now THAT was a full-tilt, bona fide "rant" (as opposed to the thread opener above).
I kinda define a rant as harsh/negative in tone, with lots of all caps, profanity, mad/eyeroll smileys, rhetorical questions and an overall vicious or angry tone.
I can't find any in the post that started this thread. That's why I might've gotten my back up earlier. Nobody likes being told they're doing something that they're not. Just human nature, you know?
But yes, that Rubio's "incident" was worthy of a good tirade. The woman was very ill-mannered and mean to me. And I don't like that. Especially when I would've held the damn door open for her anyway, because I'm a gentleman and I do that sort of thing anyway. She plowed over me like a steamroller!
The book is called, "Motherhood and Hollywood: How To Get a Job Like Mine."
My wife has it. Loves it. I've read part of it and liked what I read. It's written in kind of a Bill Cosby "Fatherhood" kind of style. You know the collection of short essays about everything in life. Good read.
Anyway, it is refreshing to see her do what she did.
And SPJ, let's think about it. In the article her quote was
"I was going to present what's called a video package - a look at 30 years of the American Music Awards. Well, what was passing for humor basically ranged from stupid to vulgar, and I just thought, 'I'm not going to be part of this.' So I walked out and said, 'Get me my car. I'm leaving.' "
I'm just curious what part of "I'm not going to be part of this" is unlcear to you? Did you read the article? Did you pay attention to her opinion and stand on the issue? How would doing her part and then leaving have made that statement? Imagine the quote the next day if that had happened. "Oh, I was really, really, really upset by the language and couldn't believe Dick Clark would do that, oh but by the way I did stick around and collect my paycheck cause it wasn't that big a deal to me that I'd mind having my name and face attached to it."
think about dude... if you're going to make a statement, you generally have to do something that actually makes a statement.
This was a battle worth fighting and I applaud her for it.
Pscates, do you live near San Diego? I'm sure this is totally off subject, but I'm not really all that sorry.
I was in San Diego once and saw a Rubio's in that outdoor mall sort of place near the Town and Country. I couldn't figure out why on earth anyone would eat a fish taco though so I had arby's.
And SPJ, let's think about it. In the article her quote was
"I was going to present what's called a video package - a look at 30 years of the American Music Awards. Well, what was passing for humor basically ranged from stupid to vulgar, and I just thought, 'I'm not going to be part of this.' So I walked out and said, 'Get me my car. I'm leaving.' "
I'm just curious what part of "I'm not going to be part of this" is unlcear to you? Did you read the article? Did you pay attention to her opinion and stand on the issue? How would doing her part and then leaving have made that statement? Imagine the quote the next day if that had happened. "Oh, I was really, really, really upset by the language and couldn't believe Dick Clark would do that, oh but by the way I did stick around and collect my paycheck cause it wasn't that big a deal to me that I'd mind having my name and face attached to it."
think about dude... if you're going to make a statement, you generally have to do something that actually makes a statement.
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Did you read my comments that generally agree with what you have said? I agree. It's totally a battle worth fighting for and I think her pricinciples are praiseworthy. My initial assessment was that she could have made a bolder statement through disrupting the continuity of the show, but through discussion I realize that my approach may have been impractical. But she had the podium, she had the opportunity, and she just walked out on it. Maybe that was the best thing she could do. With all the talk about over-dubs and such, perhaps simply walking out was the only way to voice some kind of opinion without being seen as hypocritical as you suggest. Oh well. Unfortunately ratings are king. The best thing to do is tune out crap like that. So in a way viewers should "walk out" with her. I was a never a fan of the Osbournes anyway, family values or not.
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Let's just marry Patricia Heaton.
One sentence does not a rant make. Ooo...all caps!
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That's really, really weak.
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Just makes her seem extra cool and down-to-earth, if you ask me.
I believe she's one of those people who - if push came to shove - could gladly tell Hollywood to kiss off and she'd be happy being a mother and acting elsewhere.
She doesn't seem too encumbered by the trappings of stardom (or whatever it is that a so-so sitcom allows you).
THAT'S REFRESHING TO SEE!!! <--- Rant-O-Meter? Alert
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But seriously, folks...
She might've gotten booed or sneered at if she'd chosen the podium to express herself (she'd be no better than Gere, Sarandon and others who muck up awards shows with their personal politics). I heard they already had a dubbed voiceover thing for her part (you know these shows have to employ backup plans anyway), so they just ran that instead.
I'm pretty sure no one even knew she left or thought anything about it until the story came out about why she left.
Just makes me like her more. I saw her on Craig Kilborn a few weeks ago and she's very well-spoken and level-headed about her career. She's quite spunky.
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I for one find his posts entertaining
I do my best, but it often comes at a high price.
I read that one.
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By the way, I just found out she has a book out. I don't know what it's about, but I'd be curious to check it out, in light of these events. Surely it's not fiction? Maybe a bio or some sort of lifestyle book?
Is she known for decorating or being a great cook?
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<strong>Exactly, Paul. I thought it was over reaction when I had pointed it out. One of the greatest threads ever was a Pscates rant about his bad day getting tacos and waiting in line.
I read that one.
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Wow, I don't even recall that. Sure it was me? Could've been. Was it Taco Bell? The one near my house is notoriously slow and unorganized (it's a 50/50 shot if they get your order right).
Hmm...probably WAS me then.
I did lose $10 to them one time.
8, 9, 10? If we wait for the average parent to get their kid into bed, we'll probably wait untill midnight; on a weekend, at least that much.
Actors/directors/screen writers etc etc... hate reality TV in all it's forms, hate it! Really really hate it because it exposes the deficiencies of what they do. Sure it isn't Truman Capote, but they ain't no Hemmingway either. Erm, Capote? Not quite, mebbe Hunter S. Thompson, and it isn't even that, but you get the idea -- it doesn't take much life, even set piece psuedo-life to upstage banal TV/lit conventions.
There's just something loveable about Ozzy's clan, yeast infections and all. Where's your sense of the carnivalesque? Aren't we talking about showbiz?
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Wow, I don't even recall that. Sure it was me? Could've been. Was it Taco Bell? The one near my house is notoriously slow and unorganized (it's a 50/50 shot if they get your order right).
Hmm...probably WAS me then.
I did lose $10 to them one time.
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It was. It was some fish taco place. The lady in front of you couldn't make her mind up... and she had rushed in ahead of you to take her place in line, only to spend 5 minutes figuring out what a fish taco was.
Whoa, did I just remember all that? Why the hell can't I find my socks?
In fact, I remember making a remark about fish tacos... heh heh.
i for one have been entertained.
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It WAS indeed Rubio's and it's all coming back to me now.
Okay, now THAT was a full-tilt, bona fide "rant" (as opposed to the thread opener above).
I kinda define a rant as harsh/negative in tone, with lots of all caps, profanity, mad/eyeroll smileys, rhetorical questions and an overall vicious or angry tone.
I can't find any in the post that started this thread. That's why I might've gotten my back up earlier. Nobody likes being told they're doing something that they're not. Just human nature, you know?
But yes, that Rubio's "incident" was worthy of a good tirade. The woman was very ill-mannered and mean to me. And I don't like that. Especially when I would've held the damn door open for her anyway, because I'm a gentleman and I do that sort of thing anyway. She plowed over me like a steamroller!
The book is called, "Motherhood and Hollywood: How To Get a Job Like Mine."
My wife has it. Loves it. I've read part of it and liked what I read. It's written in kind of a Bill Cosby "Fatherhood" kind of style. You know the collection of short essays about everything in life. Good read.
Anyway, it is refreshing to see her do what she did.
And SPJ, let's think about it. In the article her quote was
"I was going to present what's called a video package - a look at 30 years of the American Music Awards. Well, what was passing for humor basically ranged from stupid to vulgar, and I just thought, 'I'm not going to be part of this.' So I walked out and said, 'Get me my car. I'm leaving.' "
I'm just curious what part of "I'm not going to be part of this" is unlcear to you? Did you read the article? Did you pay attention to her opinion and stand on the issue? How would doing her part and then leaving have made that statement? Imagine the quote the next day if that had happened. "Oh, I was really, really, really upset by the language and couldn't believe Dick Clark would do that, oh but by the way I did stick around and collect my paycheck cause it wasn't that big a deal to me that I'd mind having my name and face attached to it."
think about dude... if you're going to make a statement, you generally have to do something that actually makes a statement.
This was a battle worth fighting and I applaud her for it.
I was in San Diego once and saw a Rubio's in that outdoor mall sort of place near the Town and Country. I couldn't figure out why on earth anyone would eat a fish taco though so I had arby's.
Pink Taco is in Vegas, at the hard rock hotel... just in case anyone cared.
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And SPJ, let's think about it. In the article her quote was
"I was going to present what's called a video package - a look at 30 years of the American Music Awards. Well, what was passing for humor basically ranged from stupid to vulgar, and I just thought, 'I'm not going to be part of this.' So I walked out and said, 'Get me my car. I'm leaving.' "
I'm just curious what part of "I'm not going to be part of this" is unlcear to you? Did you read the article? Did you pay attention to her opinion and stand on the issue? How would doing her part and then leaving have made that statement? Imagine the quote the next day if that had happened. "Oh, I was really, really, really upset by the language and couldn't believe Dick Clark would do that, oh but by the way I did stick around and collect my paycheck cause it wasn't that big a deal to me that I'd mind having my name and face attached to it."
think about dude... if you're going to make a statement, you generally have to do something that actually makes a statement.
This was a battle worth fighting and I applaud her for it.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Did you read my comments that generally agree with what you have said? I agree. It's totally a battle worth fighting for and I think her pricinciples are praiseworthy. My initial assessment was that she could have made a bolder statement through disrupting the continuity of the show, but through discussion I realize that my approach may have been impractical. But she had the podium, she had the opportunity, and she just walked out on it. Maybe that was the best thing she could do. With all the talk about over-dubs and such, perhaps simply walking out was the only way to voice some kind of opinion without being seen as hypocritical as you suggest. Oh well. Unfortunately ratings are king. The best thing to do is tune out crap like that. So in a way viewers should "walk out" with her. I was a never a fan of the Osbournes anyway, family values or not.