if the next president is a democrat, will he get the free ride Bush is getting today?

in General Discussion edited January 2014
i mean no questions about his past drug use, no questions about his alcoholism, no questions on past infidelities in his marriage....i think those are all questions that don't need to be asked of our president and should be between himself, his wife and his family...but the Republicians dogged Clinton on all these issues....do you think they are now off-limits for all future presidents or only off-limits for the current president?? g

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  • Reply 1 of 64
    pscatespscates Posts: 5,847member
    Just the current one.
  • Reply 2 of 64
    pscatespscates Posts: 5,847member

    (in case some of you need help knowing I was joking...)
  • Reply 3 of 64
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    Never ever call into question the fact that the media are liberal and hate Bush and love all Democrats. It rattles the cage and gets some people upset.

    But the answer to your question is that they will give Lieberman a free ride in 2005 if there's a war going on.
  • Reply 4 of 64
    pscatespscates Posts: 5,847member
    Not a trace of irony...

    Actually, I don't find Lieberman all that offensive. I could certainly listen to him and hear him (he seems like a genuinely smart man with some convictions).
  • Reply 5 of 64
    pscatespscates Posts: 5,847member
    By the way, will someone start a tally of all the Hollywood conservatives (all 5 of them) who say they'll move out of the country is a Democrat is elected...and hold them to it!

    Seems that other bunch, last time around, were just blowing smoke and angling for a little press coverage.

    I found Cher a GREAT price on travelocity.com but she never responded. I even offered to help her pack.

  • Reply 6 of 64
    thegeldingthegelding Posts: 3,230member
    awww, those hollywood types had an out...they said if GW was elected president by the people of the united states, they would move...since that didn't happen, they are save to stay

  • Reply 7 of 64
    scottscott Posts: 7,431member
    What free ride?
  • Reply 8 of 64
    thegeldingthegelding Posts: 3,230member
    see the first post...the president is not hounded with questions of his past drug use (well known and factual), his alcoholism (well known and factual) nor of his past infidelities to his marriage (not as well known yet factual)....i personally think that is a great thing as those questions are none of our business...yet the right was constantly after Clinton on all these issues....i am hoping that this current state of not hounding our president about matters that are of only family merit are continued even when a democrat is elected by the electoral college....g
  • Reply 9 of 64
    1) Bush never got a free ride.

    2) He handled it a lot better than Clinton did, and I guarantee Bush did more drugs than Clinton.

    I don't think Bush ever made stupid claims about not inhaling or anything like that. Clinton fried his own hide by being so "slick" about everything, including the whole facetious deal with not inhaling.
  • Reply 10 of 64
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    Bush took the issue away from the press by being up front about it. He talked about his drunk driving before it was reported, he's talked about using some drugs. Where's the story?

    It's not out there because it's not an issue and because Bush admitted to it. Clinton's infidelities were so huge in the media because he kept lying like an idiot. Had he come out before Drudge broke Lewinskygate he wouldn't have caught 1/100th the crap he did for it. Bush came out with drinking/drugs, he caught hell from comedians for a few months and now it's water under the bridge. Drudge broke Lewinsky's story, Clinton lied and caught hell from comedians for YEARS.

    It's not out there because it's a non-issue.
  • Reply 11 of 64
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    [quote]Originally posted by groverat:

    <strong>Bush took the issue away from the press by being up front about it. He talked about his drunk driving before it was reported, he's talked about using some drugs.</strong><hr></blockquote>No. He tried to cover it up but it came out anyway, right before the election. But thanks for trying to revise history for us.
  • Reply 12 of 64
    thegeldingthegelding Posts: 3,230member
    i agree it is a non-issue...i just hope it remains that way for other presidents...he didn't bring up the drunk driving arrest, the news did...and then he tried to "use" his children as an excuse for never talking of it ("i didn't want my children to know")...and if he admitted drug use, i would love to see the links... everytime i have seen him asked asked (very very few times) he has refused to answer...except to say "nothing since such and such date and i won't answer about anything before that"...

    i admit he has handled it better than clinton...he has refused to talk about it...i bet clinton is cursing himself saying, "wait, you mean i could have refused to answer and everyone would say, ok??? damn"...i think not answering is the right thing to do, but will hard line rightist and their private investigators let a democratic president do that?? i hope so....wouldn't that make politics that much nicer....g
  • Reply 13 of 64
    finboyfinboy Posts: 383member
    What free ride? Everything he does is questioned by every media outlet, constantly.

    As for the personal stuff, there's nothing there that could be used to challenge his character TODAY, so it is not deemed relevant by the media. Plus, they certainly don't want to have to dig up all that sh*t for Democrats, now OR in the future. Think back to your days in front of the boob tube -- pie fights can get nasty.
  • Reply 14 of 64
    Democrats don't have a DestructionMachine? like Republicans do. So all other reasons aside, no.
  • Reply 15 of 64
    pscatespscates Posts: 5,847member

    He's SERIOUS, folks! Oh my...

    <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
  • Reply 16 of 64
    In an effort to raise the level of discussion beyond knee-jerk reactions, I am including an article in the Washington Post reporting on President Clinton's speech before the Democratic Leadership Council. There, he mentioned the existence of a right-wing personal "destruction machine."

    <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A5468-2002Dec3&notFound=true"; target="_blank">http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A5468-2002Dec3&notFound=true</a>;

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  • Reply 17 of 64
    pscatespscates Posts: 5,847member
    Quick, someone tie my knee down...QUICK!

    <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />

    You manage to finger-wag AND be funny (albeit in an unintentional kind of way) in just one succinct sentence!

    You practice this stuff, right? When do you have time for class?

  • Reply 18 of 64
    thegeldingthegelding Posts: 3,230member
    finboy, i agree...i don't think the personal stuff should ever be used...now or in the future...just hoping this is the start of a new trend...g

    ps..it is very common to judge people today by their past actions...if the media brought up GW's use of coke and sleeping around in the past, many people would judge him by it today...g

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  • Reply 19 of 64
    pscatespscates Posts: 5,847member
    I wonder how many Presidents have snorted coke or other drugs in their life? Would be interesting to know! Either in their childhood or school days? Probably have to be more recent ones. Maybe the older ones had drinking problems.

    We're moving into an era though where our Presidents (for the next decade or two) are going to be of an age where they were brought up in the 60's and 70's (and even 80's?), so recreational usage of certain substances was definitely out there.

    It'll probably just become common, accepted knowledge I guess? We'll someday have a president who actually slam danced or had blue hair during his youth.

  • Reply 20 of 64
    thegeldingthegelding Posts: 3,230member
    a crowd-surfing, mosh pit loving president...we need more of those... ...g
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