Your posts are simply a cherry-picking of facts. It has become a habit, and my pointing this out again is probably not going to change your behavior on iota. Facts don't seem to matter to your type.
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Yay!
Not.
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Finally someone has figured out how to solve the hassle of having all my data, songs, apps, books, and movies available with me at all times and replaced it with the convienence of downloading it all over and over again over slow public wi-fi
You don't have to.
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And for just $25.00 per year I will be able to listen to music I've already paid for whenever I want (after I download it over said slow public wi-fi)! That's lightyears ahead of what I'm forced to do now: listen to it instantly for free.
You don't have to.
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And Apple's policy of not telling their customers when someone steals their data from their servers is just the cherry on top!
Care to point to one example where Apple has had customer data stolen from its servers?
As I said, for folks of your persuasion, it would seem that a fair and balanced view of the facts are simply irrelevant.
Gruber's a flaming clown, but he's often quite right on Apple/Mac issues. I think he's correct here: Apple's 'cloud' is designed mainly to replace the role your computer & iTunes play in regard to your iOS device.
It's something Microsoft would never do - essentially, they're giving you one less reason to own (or go anywhere near) a computer. Since Apple makes computers, this seems to make no sense (and it would never make sense to Ballmer), but it actually makes perfect sense. It explains completely why Apple spent so heavily on a data center. Essentially, they're giving people who hate computers (especially around the home) a way to get rid of them completely. That means Apple might sell fewer computers, but only to people who didn't much care for them much anyway. In exchange, they will sell a TON more iPads, iPhones, and iPod Touches. A ton.
This theory also rather neatly explains why, after having built their data center, they moved to add capacity before they even announced what it was for. It was because the iPad sold so much better than anyone expected that Apple realized the brand-new data center they'd just built would be insufficient to do the job.
The data center 'cloud' will probably do other things too. It's pretty well established that it will distribute music and probably movies, and probably email too. But the Big Idea is: What iTunes on your computer used to do, will now be handled more or less automatically, wirelessly, and remotely by Apple. The average iPad buyer will love it, and it will place Apple miles ahead of everyone trying to keep up.
So iCloud becomes the new Central Control of ALL my media regardless of how I manage my media on my various devices. iTunes becomes software to mange media (at least some of it), on my computer only. Media on my IOS devices is managed independently of iTunes.
iCloud also become a Apple's version of Amazon - purchase and rental of all media.
The result will be a much better way to manage, buy and rent media. Media on all my devices and computers can be controlled on a per machine basis. iTunes' role becomes much reduced and thus lighter and leaner.
I also favor the idea of an optional IOS/iCloud device to manage my back-ups, buffering media, as well as syncing and updating my devices on my local network.
Bam! You all are wrong! These is a well-kept secret project. Think afresh. Apple is not afraid to change even when common thinking suggest it needn't to e.g. iPod shuffle.
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Gruber acknowledged that [...] "These things have been as well-kept secrets as any major projects from Apple in recent years," he wrote.
Can't wait for 6PM (I'll be at work, sigh!). Hopefully, the podcast will be online in a zip. Hopefully I will not be disappointed with what will be revealed today. C'mon!
You have to have listen to your tunes, your movies, your tv shows on the cloud? You have a limited data contract. Does this iCloud system work for you? I love Apple. But the rumors here is crap if Apple wan't to continue.
Are you people insane or just plain stupid? Apple will not remove the ability to play/stream/watch your files locally. They are simply making it easier to do all the above, anywhere you happen to be on whatever device you are on.
Are you people insane or just plain stupid? Apple will not remove the ability to play/stream/watch your files locally. They are simply making it easier to do all the above, anywhere you happen to be on whatever device you are on.
And your opinion is so far off from reality it enters the realm of fantasy.
I use iTunes on Mac and Windows and there's absolutely a night and day difference. On Windows, it's just a nightmare. As said, incessant crashes, random little bugs. It's literally the least stable piece of software I have running on a generally stable Windows 7 desktop that's never once had an OS crash or blue screen. I get less Flash crashes than I do iTunes crashes!
I tend to be as in love with Apple's product offerings as anyone, but I have to agree with those that say that the weak link in the chain on both major OS's is iTunes, though it's markedly a bigger issue on Windows.
Honestly, it's just about the only Apple product I have serious complaints about. I don't even mind all the iOS notifications that bother so many, but iTunes, mostly on Windows, is pure garbage. I would blame Windows more if 7 wasn't so steady (Vista was terrible and I never shared in the XP lovefest that still so many partake in) and if every other program I run, including numerous media management programs much like iTunes, didn't work infinitely better than iTunes.
But again, it literally crashes more than Flash...5 to 1, 6 to 1, maybe more, and that's just really unfortunate.
If this is the "New iTunes" think about geting a new iPod, iPhone, or iPad and geting this stuff from the iCloud again. It's ridiculous! If you want to do all of these things over 3G or 4G depending on the situation you will be charged, there is a lot of data here. You have music, movies, and tv shows. If you're on broadband think about how slow it will be, even with broadband. Apple wouldn't be this stupid to take EVERYTHING to the cloud.
Cheers,
Erik
You'd stream mostly, and they may not get the rights to sync to iCloud songs you didn't buy through the iTunes Store.
i rather agree that itunes is not as good as it could be. It's not horrid at least on a Mac but there are other ways to handle many of the functions which could be better. Like say when you plug in a device, you don't have to fire up Itunes to get to the sync screens. You just double click an icon on your desktop.
Hmmm, double-clicking a desktop icon to sync...that sounds good. And maybe this icon could be called iTunes?
I would love to have my iTunes library on a time capsule type of device with all of my Macs, ATVs & iPhones being able to access it. But it would have to have redundant storage. I know this can technically be done now. But it's very cumbersome. And iCloud helps to orchestrate access while I'm on the go? Could Apple please consider cramming an airport extreme into a Drobo like redundant solution with an iTunes server software pack? I would be in heaven.
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Yay!
Not.
Finally someone has figured out how to solve the hassle of having all my data, songs, apps, books, and movies available with me at all times and replaced it with the convienence of downloading it all over and over again over slow public wi-fi
You don't have to.
And for just $25.00 per year I will be able to listen to music I've already paid for whenever I want (after I download it over said slow public wi-fi)! That's lightyears ahead of what I'm forced to do now: listen to it instantly for free.
You don't have to.
And Apple's policy of not telling their customers when someone steals their data from their servers is just the cherry on top!
Care to point to one example where Apple has had customer data stolen from its servers?
As I said, for folks of your persuasion, it would seem that a fair and balanced view of the facts are simply irrelevant.
It's something Microsoft would never do - essentially, they're giving you one less reason to own (or go anywhere near) a computer. Since Apple makes computers, this seems to make no sense (and it would never make sense to Ballmer), but it actually makes perfect sense. It explains completely why Apple spent so heavily on a data center. Essentially, they're giving people who hate computers (especially around the home) a way to get rid of them completely. That means Apple might sell fewer computers, but only to people who didn't much care for them much anyway. In exchange, they will sell a TON more iPads, iPhones, and iPod Touches. A ton.
This theory also rather neatly explains why, after having built their data center, they moved to add capacity before they even announced what it was for. It was because the iPad sold so much better than anyone expected that Apple realized the brand-new data center they'd just built would be insufficient to do the job.
The data center 'cloud' will probably do other things too. It's pretty well established that it will distribute music and probably movies, and probably email too. But the Big Idea is: What iTunes on your computer used to do, will now be handled more or less automatically, wirelessly, and remotely by Apple. The average iPad buyer will love it, and it will place Apple miles ahead of everyone trying to keep up.
iCloud also become a Apple's version of Amazon - purchase and rental of all media.
The result will be a much better way to manage, buy and rent media. Media on all my devices and computers can be controlled on a per machine basis. iTunes' role becomes much reduced and thus lighter and leaner.
I also favor the idea of an optional IOS/iCloud device to manage my back-ups, buffering media, as well as syncing and updating my devices on my local network.
Sounds like a great way forward to me.
Let's go further. Let's think of the new iCloud as iCloud and iTunes as dead.
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Gruber acknowledged that [...] "These things have been as well-kept secrets as any major projects from Apple in recent years," he wrote.
Can't wait for 6PM (I'll be at work, sigh!). Hopefully, the podcast will be online in a zip. Hopefully I will not be disappointed with what will be revealed today. C'mon!
Are you people insane or just plain stupid? Apple will not remove the ability to play/stream/watch your files locally. They are simply making it easier to do all the above, anywhere you happen to be on whatever device you are on.
I agree. Did you read what I said?
Wireless syncing plus a future iPhone with built-in Qi for induction charging would make my day.
All Apple mobile devices should have gotten wireless charging already. It'll come eventually, but the sooner the better.
And your opinion is so far off from reality it enters the realm of fantasy.
I use iTunes on Mac and Windows and there's absolutely a night and day difference. On Windows, it's just a nightmare. As said, incessant crashes, random little bugs. It's literally the least stable piece of software I have running on a generally stable Windows 7 desktop that's never once had an OS crash or blue screen. I get less Flash crashes than I do iTunes crashes!
I tend to be as in love with Apple's product offerings as anyone, but I have to agree with those that say that the weak link in the chain on both major OS's is iTunes, though it's markedly a bigger issue on Windows.
Honestly, it's just about the only Apple product I have serious complaints about. I don't even mind all the iOS notifications that bother so many, but iTunes, mostly on Windows, is pure garbage. I would blame Windows more if 7 wasn't so steady (Vista was terrible and I never shared in the XP lovefest that still so many partake in) and if every other program I run, including numerous media management programs much like iTunes, didn't work infinitely better than iTunes.
But again, it literally crashes more than Flash...5 to 1, 6 to 1, maybe more, and that's just really unfortunate.
If this is the "New iTunes" think about geting a new iPod, iPhone, or iPad and geting this stuff from the iCloud again. It's ridiculous! If you want to do all of these things over 3G or 4G depending on the situation you will be charged, there is a lot of data here. You have music, movies, and tv shows. If you're on broadband think about how slow it will be, even with broadband. Apple wouldn't be this stupid to take EVERYTHING to the cloud.
Cheers,
Erik
You'd stream mostly, and they may not get the rights to sync to iCloud songs you didn't buy through the iTunes Store.
i rather agree that itunes is not as good as it could be. It's not horrid at least on a Mac but there are other ways to handle many of the functions which could be better. Like say when you plug in a device, you don't have to fire up Itunes to get to the sync screens. You just double click an icon on your desktop.
Hmmm, double-clicking a desktop icon to sync...that sounds good. And maybe this icon could be called iTunes?
Gruber's a flaming clown, but he's often quite right on Apple/Mac issues.
You nailed him. On both counts.