<strong>...the one of anders.. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[oyvey]" /> don't like this thread at all..byebye-</strong><hr></blockquote>
So you mean I should die or what? Isn´t that a bit unsportly?
<strong>No 'Chistianly concern for the other 510 people?!?!
What? are Iraqis any less human in the eyes of a 'Christian' God?!
Are they, in your eyes, any less human?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Umm, chill dude, you totally missed my point. Is your view of me so blunted that you would believe that was what I actually meant? Let me draw it out so you can not remain so upset.
Since he is saying that 1 US serviceman will die for every 510 civilians I was saying that no servicemen would die since, I had hoped by simple inference, no Iraqi Civilians will die. I do not believe this to be the case truly and thus the " " to make it clear that I was not being serious. Betting on the death of others is without class. There is nothing fun about war.
The more interesting ratios to me are what the US Military:Iraqi Military ratio will be and what the Iraqi Military:Iraqi Civilian ratio will be. Too bad that both sides will politicize the numbers for their own gains.
<strong>The more interesting ratios to me are what the US Military:Iraqi Military ratio will be and what the Iraqi Military:Iraqi Civilian ratio will be. </strong><hr></blockquote>
For me it's the number of Iraqi Military killed by the US:the number of allied Military killed by the US...
I don't know how many Iraqi casualties there will be, but I'd bet a couple dozen Americans die, none by actual Iraqi combatants, but from accidents and friendly fire.
If they are Iraqi soldiers they are just wanting to die anyway. We should not feel sorry for them. They made a choice by joining or being drafted into the Iraqi Army that they wanted to die. Support their right to end their life by suicide via cluster bomb. Etc Etc Etc.
<strong>Yeah, it could be seen that way if the war was meaningless. I do not believe it is.</strong><hr></blockquote>Hmmm. So, "thou shalt not kill*
*unless it is meaningful."
Is that a pro-life position? I don't see how religious people can be in favor of this. Even if killing many Iraqis in a war does ultimately save more lives (and that's debateable, but let's assume it's true), isn't that an ends-justify-means position? We shouldn't destroy stem cells to save people's lives, because it's wrong to kill. So why should we kill innocent Iraqis in order to save more lives in the future?
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<strong>Place yor bets here. Ten bucks per bet. Winner takes it all:
American soldier to civil Iraqi kill ratio between 1:510 and 1:520.
Come on and make the war fun
So then you are saying that no American soldiers will die. Cool!
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When I write 1:510 it means one american slodier dead per 510 iraqi civilans. Do you write it in another way?
<strong>...the one of anders.. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[oyvey]" /> don't like this thread at all..byebye-</strong><hr></blockquote>
So you mean I should die or what? Isn´t that a bit unsportly?
Come on. make a bet.
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So then you are saying that no American soldiers will die. Cool!
What? are Iraqis any less human in the eyes of a 'Christian' God?!
Are they, in your eyes, any less human?
<strong>No 'Chistianly concern for the other 510 people?!?!
What? are Iraqis any less human in the eyes of a 'Christian' God?!
Are they, in your eyes, any less human?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Umm, chill dude, you totally missed my point. Is your view of me so blunted that you would believe that was what I actually meant? Let me draw it out so you can not remain so upset.
Since he is saying that 1 US serviceman will die for every 510 civilians I was saying that no servicemen would die since, I had hoped by simple inference, no Iraqi Civilians will die. I do not believe this to be the case truly and thus the "
<strong>The more interesting ratios to me are what the US Military:Iraqi Military ratio will be and what the Iraqi Military:Iraqi Civilian ratio will be. </strong><hr></blockquote>
For me it's the number of Iraqi Military killed by the US:the number of allied Military killed by the US...
<strong>Betting on the death of others is without class.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Funny. I have always thought that the causing of death of others was even more without class
Anders says 1:510
There were 247 Coalition fatalities in the 1991 Gulf war, and >200000 Iraqis.
Thats approimately 1:800
Put your feet up, crack a cold one, feed the ratings and watch the massacre.
Yeee-haaaw
Yeeeeeehaaaaaaww!
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Funny. I have always thought that the causing of death of others was even more without class</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah, it could be seen that way if the war was meaningless. I do not believe it is.
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<strong>Yeah, it could be seen that way if the war was meaningless. I do not believe it is.</strong><hr></blockquote>Hmmm. So, "thou shalt not kill*
*unless it is meaningful."
Is that a pro-life position? I don't see how religious people can be in favor of this. Even if killing many Iraqis in a war does ultimately save more lives (and that's debateable, but let's assume it's true), isn't that an ends-justify-means position? We shouldn't destroy stem cells to save people's lives, because it's wrong to kill. So why should we kill innocent Iraqis in order to save more lives in the future?