Amazon tablet could face production constraints driven by Apple's iPad 2

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  • Reply 21 of 60
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
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    factories in the Far East aren't yet in US territory.



    I'd be fine with another bout of annexation. Better infrastructure and quality of life for them, more land and a larger economy for us.
  • Reply 22 of 60
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    The government should step in and limit Apple to a production quota so other companies can compete on a level playing field. If you want an iPad, sorry, Apple sold its quota for this month, buy a Xoom or just wait till next month. It's the only way to be fair, which is what our culture is all about these days.



    Why the he'll would anybody want a XOOM. If you can get the real thing, even the Galaxy Tab isn't up to par with an iPad 1 or 2
  • Reply 23 of 60
    cloudgazercloudgazer Posts: 2,161member
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    That HAD to be sarcasm, otherwise it defies all reason. Or, maybe he's a kindergartner?



    Yes that's what I'm saying - he was making a sarcastic comment on 'fairness' and implying a ridiculous conclusion in the tablet market to make his point. Actually maybe he's not been reading Rand and loving it, maybe he's been reading Rawls and hating it.
  • Reply 24 of 60
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member
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    I'm guessing he recently read Atlas Shrugged and is suggesting that we live in Rand's vision of socialist dystopia. He was aiming for a criticism of modern society but didn't get it across well.



    I haven't read the book but you got my intention anyway. Without a <sarcasm> tag or emoticon I suppose some took it as a troll or something. I should have remembered that this sort of thing can trigger nasty responses. How would you have stated it?
  • Reply 25 of 60
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
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    Why the he'll would anybody want a XOOM. If you can get the real thing, even the Galaxy Tab isn't up to par with an iPad 1 or 2



    On that note, does anyone know how to turn a Xoom on? I tried to play with one in a Best Buy display, but the screen was off and I couldn't figure out how to turn it on. It has no buttons (well, volume up and down, but...)...
  • Reply 26 of 60
    steven n.steven n. Posts: 1,229member
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    On that note, does anyone know how to turn a Xoom on? I tried to play with one in a Best Buy display, but the screen was off and I couldn't figure out how to turn it on. It has no buttons (well, volume up and down, but...)...



    On the back. One of the many complaints about the device.
  • Reply 27 of 60
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
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    On the back. One of the many complaints about the device.



    lol, where? I looked.







    I see a speaker in the upper left, a flash and camera in the upper right, and smoothness everywhere else. Unless the large, differently colored area covering three-quarters of the device is the button.
  • Reply 28 of 60
    cloudgazercloudgazer Posts: 2,161member
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    I haven't read the book but you got my intention anyway. Without a <sarcasm> tag or emoticon I suppose some took it as a troll or something. I should have remembered that this sort of thing can trigger nasty responses. How would you have stated it?



    Hmm, you're trying to make a contentious point, that fairness has become a shibboleth, and it's not a commonly held view so I think you just can't make that point sarcastically. Sarcasm only really works when everybody in your audience already agrees with you and is in on the joke.



    Like when the apple-geek queuing for the first iPhone was asked what he was lining up to buy and told the interviewer 'ZUNES!'
  • Reply 29 of 60
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
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    Originally Posted by lkrupp View Post


    I haven't read the book but you got my intention anyway. Without a <sarcasm> tag or emoticon I suppose some took it as a troll or something. I should have remembered that this sort of thing can trigger nasty responses. How would you have stated it?



    Ending it with this would have sufficed.
  • Reply 30 of 60
    stelligentstelligent Posts: 2,680member
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    Originally Posted by lkrupp View Post


    The government should step in and limit Apple to a production quota so other companies can compete on a level playing field. If you want an iPad, sorry, Apple sold its quota for this month, buy a Xoom or just wait till next month. It's the only way to be fair, which is what our culture is all about these days.



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    Originally Posted by kustardking View Post


    That HAD to be sarcasm, otherwise it defies all reason. Or, maybe he's a kindergartner?



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cloudgazer View Post


    Yes that's what I'm saying - he was making a sarcastic comment on 'fairness' and implying a ridiculous conclusion in the tablet market to make his point. Actually maybe he's not been reading Rand and loving it, maybe he's been reading Rawls and hating it.



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    Why the he'll would anybody want a XOOM. If you can get the real thing, even the Galaxy Tab isn't up to par with an iPad 1 or 2



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    There is something deeply wrong with you.




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    If you you really call that fair then why not force Apple to make the power efficiency less efficient, add code that makes their UI jittery, and gradually slows down the entire device forcing a reboot once a day? It's only fair if you want a level playing field.



    So we had someone attempting satire. No one gets it but he who gazes at the clouds. But he also explains it in veiled, lit-nerdy way, which no one gets either. Sigh ... Perhaps this population is qualified primarily for iPad manufacturing jobs except for 2 or 3 here.
  • Reply 31 of 60
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
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    So we had someone attempting satire. No one gets it but he who gazes at the clouds. But he also explains it in veiled, lit-nerdy way, which no one gets either. Sigh ... Perhaps this population is qualified primarily for iPad manufacturing jobs except for 2 or 3 here.



    Sarcasm in writing without context isn't sarcasm and can't be taken as such. When there are people here who actually believe stuff like that, it's even more difficult to discern.
  • Reply 32 of 60
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member
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    Originally Posted by stelligent View Post


    So we had someone attempting satire. No one gets it but he who gazes at the clouds. But he also explains it in veiled, lit-nerdy way, which no one gets either. Sigh ... Perhaps this population is qualified primarily for iPad manufacturing jobs except for 2 or 3 here.



    Yeah, I had to look up "shibboleth" in the dictionary. But I also just remembered that I did read Atlas Shrugged after high school forty years ago.
  • Reply 33 of 60
    rhyderhyde Posts: 294member
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    This report is erroneous. What is clogging up the manufacturing capacity around the world is not the iPad but rather the Playbook.



    Naw, the playbook is clogging up the product pipeline
  • Reply 34 of 60
    cloudgazercloudgazer Posts: 2,161member
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    Originally Posted by stelligent View Post


    So we had someone attempting satire. No one gets it but he who gazes at the clouds. But he also explains it in veiled, lit-nerdy way, which no one gets either. Sigh ... Perhaps this population is qualified primarily for iPad manufacturing jobs except for 2 or 3 here.



    I object - it wasn't lit-nerdy, it was pol-sci-geeky.
  • Reply 35 of 60
    cloudgazercloudgazer Posts: 2,161member
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    Naw, the playbook is clogging up the product pipeline



    Maybe Amzon should just buy up playbooks and rebadge them? Then when the new Amazon play-kindle doesn't sell they can offload the inventory to Nokia to ship as the nokia N90-playkindle, which also won't sell and can be offloaded to Dell as the Streak Play Nindle.



    It's win-win - the firms can register huge sales, with limited component supply and get a thumbs up from greenpeace for recycling.
  • Reply 36 of 60
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    Originally Posted by lkrupp View Post


    The government should step in and limit Apple to a production quota so other companies can compete on a level playing field. If you want an iPad, sorry, Apple sold its quota for this month, buy a Xoom or just wait till next month. It's the only way to be fair, which is what our culture is all about these days.



    Sure. microsoft get 48% and apple get other 48%, rest is linux. I`m all for fair market
  • Reply 37 of 60
    paxmanpaxman Posts: 4,729member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    "No, you can't buy that food. You have to buy this food."



    "I don't want this food. I want that food."



    "Screw you, citizen. You have to buy this food."



    That's what you're proposing.



    That makes sense, though. I really think government should step in to protect its citizens against being 'poisoning', for lack of a better word, by unhealthy 'food'. People are not able to protect themselves and the market sure as hell doesn't care. Like cigarettes, junk food is a huge burden to society in terms of health care costs.



    Not allowing Apple to produce iPads in the name of market equity, however, makes no sense.
  • Reply 38 of 60
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
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    government should step in... ...unhealthy 'food'.



    And so you trust them to tell you what's healthy and what isn't, then.



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    People are not able to protect themselves



    No, idiots aren't. People are. You're very, very sad if you don't think people as an institution are smart enough to see what's good for them and what isn't. Every human being knows what's good for them and what isn't, even if they have only gained this knowledge through media (cartoons showing kids not liking green things, gorging on candy, and getting sick; that sort of thing). Idiots are the ones who choose to ignore this knowledge. People behave otherwise.



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    ...junk food is a huge burden to society in terms of health care costs.



    You can't arbitrarily tell people what they can and can't produce, any more than you can tell them what they can and can't eat.



    And this is off-topic now. Let's end it here.
  • Reply 39 of 60
    cloudgazercloudgazer Posts: 2,161member
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    And so you trust them to tell you what's healthy and what isn't, then.



    In some instances actually yes - Government can't control what you eat (image of Michelle Obama snatching candy from kids mouths) - but it can, does and should control what is sold as food.



    Even if you think that synthetic trans fats should be legal you presumably don't think bakers should be allowed to put white lead into flour as they did in the 18th century or melamine in milk which happened recently.
  • Reply 40 of 60
    paxmanpaxman Posts: 4,729member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    And so you trust them to tell you what's healthy and what isn't, then.



    No, idiots aren't. People are. You're very, very sad if you don't think people as an institution are smart enough to see what's good for them and what isn't. Every human being knows what's good for them and what isn't, even if they have only gained this knowledge through media (cartoons showing kids not liking green things, gorging on candy, and getting sick; that sort of thing). Idiots are the ones who choose to ignore this knowledge. People behave otherwise.



    You can't arbitrarily tell people what they can and can't produce, any more than you can tell them what they can and can't eat.



    And this is off-topic now. Let's end it here.



    But as you know people are idiots and vice versa. But yes, let's end it here. I know you agree with me, anyway.
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