Hackers access Apple server with small amount of survey data

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  • Reply 41 of 73
    drdoppiodrdoppio Posts: 1,132member
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    Originally Posted by mralston View Post


    Well, they're 40 digit hexadecimal strings, so that's 16^40 = 1.46×10^48 possible combinations... I don't even know the words to describe a number with that many zeros after it...



    1.46% of square root of 1 googol.
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  • Reply 42 of 73
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    Well, they're 40 digit hexadecimal strings, so that's 16^40 = 1.46×10^48 possible combinations. If I've worked it out right, that's 14,600,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000. I don't even know the words to describe a number with that many zeros after it.



    With a brute force attack even with a shed load of distributed computing power they're gonna be at it for ever.



    A better method would be a dictionary attack, which wouldn't take too long if they get lucky.



    My SSL provider told me that they only offer up to 4 year SSLs because that is the amount of time it would require using a super computer to brute force a 1024 bit key. Passwords are usually around 56 bits or less. Usually they take the first eight characters at 7 bits each. The actual password is not in the string. They only use it to compare to the results of the encryption.
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  • Reply 43 of 73
    drdoppiodrdoppio Posts: 1,132member
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    1.46% of square root of 1 googol.



    1.46 Quindecillion.
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  • Reply 44 of 73
    drdoppiodrdoppio Posts: 1,132member
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    1.46 Quindecillion.



    Did you just reply to yourself?
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  • Reply 45 of 73
    modemode Posts: 163member
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    Originally Posted by jragosta View Post


    If it DOES turn out to be true, I recommend the death penalty. Or at least life imprisonment.



    We need to get serious about security in this country. While strengthening servers is important, it's equally important to go after the criminals who are stealing information and hacking others' servers. There's really no major consequence to this type of criminal activity, so people continue to do it.



    You have a ponzi scheme banking cartel seething in greed taking down your entire country. Your president allowed the largest heist in the history of the world to the tune of 12 trillion dollars with no oversight to be stolen from the tax paying citizens of the US.

    Wallstreet has stolen over 2 trillion in the last 3 years and funneled the money overseas.



    Your country is bankrupt and they entire system is collapsing from bankster and corporation fraud... and your concern is digital security for information that anyone with a phone book can look up and a credit card system soon to be defunct? o.O

    and for that you want the death penalty?

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  • Reply 46 of 73
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    You have a ponzi scheme banking cartel seething in greed taking down your entire country. Your president allowed the largest heist in the history of the world to the tune of 12 trillion dollars with no oversight to be stolen from the tax paying citizens of the US.

    Wallstreet has stolen over 2 trillion in the last 3 years and funneled the money overseas.



    Your country is bankrupt and they entire system is collapsing from bankster and corporation fraud... and your concern is digital security for information that anyone with a phone book can look up and a credit card system soon to be defunct? o.O

    and for that you want the death penalty?



    I know, right? Scary to think I have my whole retirement invested in that system. I could wake up tomorrow and be penniless due to the likes of the next bernie madoff.
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  • Reply 47 of 73
    modemode Posts: 163member
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    I know, right? Scary to think I have my whole retirement invested in that system. I could wake up tomorrow and be penniless due to the likes of the next bernie madoff.



    While digital security is somewhat important - I'd say right about now it's a .00001 issue out of 10.



    My guess is certain states won't accept the rampant bank fraud fiat ponzi scheme and accept slavery (austerity). Those states will start their own currency (which is already happening in a lot of them ie. South Carolina, Oregon, Texas and countless other municipalities that have stopped accepting the US dollar like Mexico did last year).



    It would be wise to seek out these states and move your investments there while you still can. While your shares in Apple will be what they are, they won't hedge against the US fiat dollar being worth pennies in a years or 7 months time when the government defaults.



    If you guys don't vote in Ron Paul... *poof* kiss your retirement goodbye.
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  • Reply 48 of 73
    macrulezmacrulez Posts: 2,455member
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  • Reply 50 of 73
    jacksonsjacksons Posts: 244member
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    Originally Posted by MacRulez View Post


    What country are you from and how's your currency doing?



    http://www.sacbee.com/2011/07/01/374...facturing.html



    wth? it's up for one day and you get excited? Check the trend my friend: http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/US/M



    We are nearing a multi decade low.
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  • Reply 51 of 73
    dunksdunks Posts: 1,254member
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    Originally Posted by mralston View Post


    Well, they're 40 digit hexadecimal strings, so that's 16^40 = 1.46×10^48 possible combinations. If I've worked it out right, that's 14,600,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ,000,000,000,000. I don't even know the words to describe a number with that many zeros after it.



    According to the article it's called an Emily.
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    macrulezmacrulez Posts: 2,455member
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  • Reply 53 of 73
    aknabiaknabi Posts: 211member
    rather than "Hackers access Apple server with small amount of survey data"... headline would be "Hackers get access to ___________ infrastructure"



    But spin for the fanbois that have their every last cent and self-worth in AAPL.



    Love Apple products... dislike fanbois of all ilks
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  • Reply 54 of 73
    richlrichl Posts: 2,213member
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    Originally Posted by jragosta View Post


    The point is that we need to start getting serious about enforcing the laws.



    I think the US is already very serious about enforcing cyber laws.
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  • Reply 55 of 73
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
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    I think the US is already very serious about enforcing cyber laws.



    Sorry, but one example does not make a standard policy.



    If the government were serious about it, they'd be spending a lot more on cybercrime and tracking down criminals. They'd also put a lot more pressure on our trading partners to stop it.



    I know someone whose server is constantly getting hit from Chinese domains. The government knows about it and given the nature of the server, it is probably coming from the Chinese government itself - or people being funded by the government. Yet no effort has been made to try to get the Chinese to stop their hacking attempts.
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  • Reply 56 of 73
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
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    Originally Posted by Mode View Post


    While digital security is somewhat important - I'd say right about now it's a .00001 issue out of 10.



    My guess is certain states won't accept the rampant bank fraud fiat ponzi scheme and accept slavery (austerity). Those states will start their own currency (which is already happening in a lot of them ie. South Carolina, Oregon, Texas and countless other municipalities that have stopped accepting the US dollar like Mexico did last year).



    It would be wise to seek out these states and move your investments there while you still can. While your shares in Apple will be what they are, they won't hedge against the US fiat dollar being worth pennies in a years or 7 months time when the government defaults.



    If you guys don't vote in Ron Paul... *poof* kiss your retirement goodbye.



    I just love the smell of ultra-right-wing conspiracy theories coming from lunatics like this.



    Oh, btw, please name a single municipality that has stopped accepting the US Dollar. And I'd love to see your evidence of SC, OR, and TX no longer accepting the US dollar.
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  • Reply 57 of 73
    anantksundaramanantksundaram Posts: 20,418member
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    Originally Posted by MacRulez View Post


    What country are you from and how's your currency doing?



    http://www.sacbee.com/2011/07/01/374...facturing.html



    It's clear that he's from another planet, one where they use pixie dust as the medium of exchange.
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  • Reply 58 of 73
    focherfocher Posts: 688member
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    Originally Posted by ascii View Post


    People who hear the shrillness could start taking their credit card details out of iTunes, which would be a disaster for Apple.



    Not possible. You can't have an iTunes account without a valid credit card.
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  • Reply 59 of 73
    robin huberrobin huber Posts: 4,074member
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    Originally Posted by jragosta View Post


    I just love the smell of ultra-right-wing conspiracy theories coming from lunatics like this.



    Oh, btw, please name a single municipality that has stopped accepting the US Dollar. And I'd love to see your evidence of SC, OR, and TX no longer accepting the US dollar.



    He also says Mexico won't take the dollar. We just got back from Colombia where our friend there asked us to pay her back for the hotels she booked for us in U.S. dollars. I asked why and she said: "I am taking a vacation to Mexico later in the year, and they won't accept Colombian pesos, only U.S. dollars." Wonder where these clowns get their information. Even Fox News isn't that idiotic. Oh wait, they get it from internet forwards from other tin foil hatters.
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  • Reply 60 of 73
    cvaldes1831cvaldes1831 Posts: 1,832member
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    Not possible. You can't have an iTunes account without a valid credit card.



    False.



    You can have an iTunes account without a valid credit card. If I recall correctly, you must set up this account via iTunes on a computer; you cannot currently set up a cardless iTunes account from an iOS device.



    The U.S. iTunes Store accepts the following methods of payment: Visa, MasterCard, American Express, Discover, PayPal, and None.



    UPDATE: you must create the cardless account from the App Store, not the iTunes Store.



    Apple Support Document showing you how to do that.



    You can create an iTunes account with a card, then subsequently delete the card. I did that with my legacy iTunes Store account, which now has no payment method.
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