Until Apple confirms the hack I will consider this merely bragging by the script kiddie group. If the report turns out to be true, including the number of reported usernames and passwords, then is this really news worthy? Unfortunately, because it is Apple, this will be plastered all over the internet. We will see dozens of hit pieces raking Apple over the coals, advising people to dump Apple products, analyzing Apple's failure to protect its customers, predicting that iCloud will fail because of this incident. Of course the usual suspects who troll Apple centric forums will have a field day.
Have I missed anything in my predicted responses?
People will ask what hardware and OS that server was running.
If the server was not running Apple branded hardware and OS, haters will say "If Apple can't even use their own hardware and OS, why should anyone else". Apple defenders will dismiss the situation by saying it's Dell, HP, IBM, or Oracle's fault because technically it's not an "Apple server", so Mac OS is still the most secure. People can't hack your OS if you are not running it.
If the server was running on Apple branded hardware and OS, haters will say "See how insecure Macs are, etc." Apple defenders will say "Apple is not an enterprise company and this proves that Apple should get out of enterprise. Apple discontinued the Xserve in order to protect it from attacks like this."
He also says Mexico won't take the dollar. We just got back from Colombia where our friend there asked us to pay her back for the hotels she booked for us in U.S. dollars. I asked why and she said: "I am taking a vacation to Mexico later in the year, and they won't accept Colombian pesos, only U.S. dollars." Wonder where these clowns get their information. Even Fox News isn't that idiotic. Oh wait, they get it from internet forwards from other tin foil hatters.
Mexican banks will not accept US currency.
This is a widely known public fact that was not only on actual real news sites, but also reported on by your beloved MSM.
I'm sure you can still buy hookers, blow & tequila from Juan with US bucks... but not for much longer.
It's clear that he's from another planet, one where they use pixie dust as the medium of exchange.
I'm from Canada eh, and our currency actually is based on pixie dust, or it may as well be, just the same as yours.
The only difference is our debt to GDP is 34% and growing. The USA is currently 99% and growing.
We still regulate our banks to some degree up here. Which is why we don't have 24% (actual) unemployment and 44 million people on food stamps and growing.
Cutting pensions to old people isn't going to remedy the 3 billion dollars a day you pay in interest to overseas banksters.
If you don't think that you need to look for alternative currency now... pay attention to what wealthy people are doing. I'll give you a hint - look at gold prices and agricultural land values.
iPads are nice n all... but there is no 'make $14,200,000,000,000,000.00 disappear' app.
Anyways, my original post was o.O who wanted the death sentence for someone who hacked useless info from an Apple server - but no outrage over those responsible for bringing a nation to it's knees over greed.
Until Apple confirms the hack I will consider this merely bragging by the script kiddie group. If the report turns out to be true, including the number of reported usernames and passwords, then is this really news worthy? Unfortunately, because it is Apple, this will be plastered all over the internet. We will see dozens of hit pieces raking Apple over the coals, advising people to dump Apple products, analyzing Apple's failure to protect its customers, predicting that iCloud will fail because of this incident. Of course the usual suspects who troll Apple centric forums will have a field day.
Have I missed anything in my predicted responses?
Nope, you're pretty much spot on. From the looks of it the usernames are like "admin, root, backup, survey"... indicating they got the default "testing" kinds of username-passwords. Also the passwords were not decrypted, at least by the hackers.
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Originally Posted by irnchriz
Were these details actually stored by Apple? Normally Apple emily the services of a 3rd party to carry out online surveys etc.
It could be administered or developed by 3rd parties but they operate off Apple.com subdomains, like http://surveys.apple.com/ AFAIK. surveys.apple.com redirects to daw.apple.com which is as Apple as it gets. Only things like the Apple Certification Program has been outsourced to other domains and third parties, eg. Integral7: https://i7lp.integral7.com/durango/d...&channel=apple
Interestingly I tried to use "admin" "admin" at the surveys.apple.com URL. It says "This ID has been locked, please visit iforgot.apple.com" etc. Well, if you don't hear from me ever again because I've been "black bagged" you'll know why.
We just got back from Colombia where our friend there asked us to pay her back for the hotels she booked for us in U.S. dollars.
Err, right... Colombia, where your "friend" asked to pay her back for "hotels" "she booked for you". In US dollars no less... was that non-sequential, unmarked bills delivered in non-descript black duffel bags?
Just kidding... But you do realise how dodgy that sounded, right?
Not possible. You can't have an iTunes account without a valid credit card.
Yes, you can have an iTunes account without having to enter a credit card. You have to do it on a computer (since this definition is changing, to clarify I mean Windows or OS X). Choose a free app, download it. When signing up, choose "None" from the payment mode.
It's not very well described around the Internet, but that's the essence of it. On iOS, AFAIK, you MUST enter a credit card. But the method above still exists.
I'm all in favor of strong laws for security. I support the idea that companies "saving" money on security should be held accountable. However, death penalty of thieves? That's worse than Shariah. If anyone should suffer death penalty, it should be the people voting for death penalty, in my humble opinion. Let me phrase that less aggressively maybe: life is precious, and unless the individual can be unmistakenly proven to be both a danger to others and impossible to cure, I don't see who on Earth would be fit to pronounce him worthy of dying. Given the fact that I consider death penalty in general as a bad thing (due to judicial error as well as due to my personal belief that people can be morally cured... ), death penalty for mere thieving of information just baffles me.
That was for the "we should KILL 'em omgomgwtfpwnd" part.
Now, about the antenna flaw: my iPhone suffers from that flaw. I still love the device, but people pretending that it no iPhone 4 suffers from antenna flaws are mistaken. I suppose however, those people would have me beheaded for daring to say some models of the iPhone might be unperfect?
I'm from Canada eh, and our currency actually is based on pixie dust, or it may as well be, just the same as yours.
The only difference is our debt to GDP is 34% and growing. The USA is currently 99% and growing.
We still regulate our banks to some degree up here. Which is why we don't have 24% (actual) unemployment and 44 million people on food stamps and growing.
Cutting pensions to old people isn't going to remedy the 3 billion dollars a day you pay in interest to overseas banksters.
If you don't think that you need to look for alternative currency now... pay attention to what wealthy people are doing. I'll give you a hint - look at gold prices and agricultural land values.
iPads are nice n all... but there is no 'make $14,200,000,000,000,000.00 disappear' app.
Anyways, my original post was o.O who wanted the death sentence for someone who hacked useless info from an Apple server - but no outrage over those responsible for bringing a nation to it's knees over greed.
The nice thing is lots of people think like you, sir. This world might still be saved after all.... unless the Grey Death comes and only JC Denton stands between the World and Evil
Until Apple confirms the hack I will consider this merely bragging by the script kiddie group. If the report turns out to be true, including the number of reported usernames and passwords, then is this really news worthy? Unfortunately, because it is Apple, this will be plastered all over the internet. We will see dozens of hit pieces raking Apple over the coals, advising people to dump Apple products, analyzing Apple's failure to protect its customers, predicting that iCloud will fail because of this incident. Of course the usual suspects who troll Apple centric forums will have a field day.
Have I missed anything in my predicted responses?
You left out all the Apple fanboys/girls saying it's not a big deal and making excuses for the big A. Thankfully, you've already got that ball rolling. And then they'll move on to redirect the conversation by attacking Adobe Flash or Google Android.
Apple fan sites are just as predictable as any other tech forum.
This is a widely known public fact that was not only on actual real news sites, but also reported on by your beloved MSM.
I'm sure you can still buy hookers, blow & tequila from Juan with US bucks... but not for much longer.
Sorry you don't trust that darn 'internet'.
Because laws aimed at money laundering are a clear proof of the death of the dollar? You can buy as many Peso as you like with a dollar transfer, you just can't do it with the physical currency.
Either you know that the issue in Mexico is money laundering, in which case you're intellectually dishonest, or you don't know in which case you are horrifyingly incurious.
This is a widely known public fact that was not only on actual real news sites, but also reported on by your beloved MSM.
I'm sure you can still buy hookers, blow & tequila from Juan with US bucks... but not for much longer.
Sorry you don't trust that darn 'internet'.
The why behind this is in response to pressure from the US Government about the Mexican banks being used to launder drug money. There have been restrictions on the use of US cash currency in Mexico for some time due to this, not some hot-plated, internet-driven conspiracy theory about the fall of US currency. Seriously, get all the facts before spewing drivel. You can still use cards loaded with US dollars, travellers' cheques, and so on. Only an idiot goes aboard from the US with a wad of US bills to use for foreign transactions. Nice load of FUD there Mode. Say, since you claim to be Canadian, are you a running scared US ex-pat hiding in the NW Territories? Just curious... because it seems your overheated posts lead one to believe that you read only what you want to read and shoe-horn it into your pet conspiracy theory.
Me I'm boning up on my Mandarin - just in case. Ya estoy funcional en español para que pueda hablar con toda la gente hacer el trabajo duro por aquÃ*. *grin*
Back on topic - the level of hacking and the results (at least to someone knowledgeable) are not consequential. Judging from the files content presented by PED, nothing of concern except for those for whom unreasoning and ignorant paranoia are daily fare - like news sites and blogs.
The why behind this is in response to pressure from the US Government about the Mexican banks being used to launder drug money. There have been restrictions on the use of US cash currency in Mexico for some time due to this, not some hot-plated, internet-driven conspiracy theory about the fall of US currency. Seriously, get all the facts before spewing drivel. You can still use cards loaded with US dollars, travellers' cheques, and so on. Only an idiot goes aboard from the US with a wad of US bills to use for foreign transactions. Nice load of FUD there Mode. Say, since you claim to be Canadian, are you a running scared US ex-pat hiding in the NW Territories? Just curious... because it seems your overheated posts lead one to believe that you read only what you want to read and shoe-horn it into your pet conspiracy theory.
Me I'm boning up on my Mandarin - just in case. Ya estoy funcional en español para que pueda hablar con toda la gente hacer el trabajo duro por aquÃ*. *grin*
Back on topic - the level of hacking and the results (at least to someone knowledgeable) are not consequential. Judging from the files content presented by PED, nothing of concern except for those for whom unreasoning and ignorant paranoia are daily fare - like news sites and blogs.
Americans don't put their heads in the sand....that would at least require a bit of recognition of a problem. they just talk real loud about how much better everything is in usa....and remain deluded and ignorant.
He also says Mexico won't take the dollar. We just got back from Colombia where our friend there asked us to pay her back for the hotels she booked for us in U.S. dollars. I asked why and she said: "I am taking a vacation to Mexico later in the year, and they won't accept Colombian pesos, only U.S. dollars." Wonder where these clowns get their information. Even Fox News isn't that idiotic. Oh wait, they get it from internet forwards from other tin foil hatters.
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Originally Posted by Mode
Mexican banks will not accept US currency.
This is a widely known public fact that was not only on actual real news sites, but also reported on by your beloved MSM.
I'm sure you can still buy hookers, blow & tequila from Juan with US bucks... but not for much longer.
Sorry you don't trust that darn 'internet'.
Your "widely known public fact" meme is the red flag that identifies you as a chicken little. The only place this "fact" is widely known is in YouTube videos and blog posts. Name one actual quote or link to a responsible mainstream journal (vetted) news story that supports your assertion. Sorry, but I will not just take your word for it. The only thing you will come up with is one Oaxaca bank that is limiting the amount of dollars they will exchange for pesos at one time. Not an unusual thing. But that's the sort of "fact" that people like you conflate into a Mexican national policy to justify your sky is falling fantasies.
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Until Apple confirms the hack I will consider this merely bragging by the script kiddie group. If the report turns out to be true, including the number of reported usernames and passwords, then is this really news worthy? Unfortunately, because it is Apple, this will be plastered all over the internet. We will see dozens of hit pieces raking Apple over the coals, advising people to dump Apple products, analyzing Apple's failure to protect its customers, predicting that iCloud will fail because of this incident. Of course the usual suspects who troll Apple centric forums will have a field day.
Have I missed anything in my predicted responses?
People will ask what hardware and OS that server was running.
If the server was not running Apple branded hardware and OS, haters will say "If Apple can't even use their own hardware and OS, why should anyone else". Apple defenders will dismiss the situation by saying it's Dell, HP, IBM, or Oracle's fault because technically it's not an "Apple server", so Mac OS is still the most secure. People can't hack your OS if you are not running it.
If the server was running on Apple branded hardware and OS, haters will say "See how insecure Macs are, etc." Apple defenders will say "Apple is not an enterprise company and this proves that Apple should get out of enterprise. Apple discontinued the Xserve in order to protect it from attacks like this."
He also says Mexico won't take the dollar. We just got back from Colombia where our friend there asked us to pay her back for the hotels she booked for us in U.S. dollars. I asked why and she said: "I am taking a vacation to Mexico later in the year, and they won't accept Colombian pesos, only U.S. dollars." Wonder where these clowns get their information. Even Fox News isn't that idiotic. Oh wait, they get it from internet forwards from other tin foil hatters.
Mexican banks will not accept US currency.
This is a widely known public fact that was not only on actual real news sites, but also reported on by your beloved MSM.
I'm sure you can still buy hookers, blow & tequila from Juan with US bucks... but not for much longer.
Sorry you don't trust that darn 'internet'.
It's clear that he's from another planet, one where they use pixie dust as the medium of exchange.
I'm from Canada eh, and our currency actually is based on pixie dust, or it may as well be, just the same as yours.
The only difference is our debt to GDP is 34% and growing. The USA is currently 99% and growing.
We still regulate our banks to some degree up here. Which is why we don't have 24% (actual) unemployment and 44 million people on food stamps and growing.
Cutting pensions to old people isn't going to remedy the 3 billion dollars a day you pay in interest to overseas banksters.
If you don't think that you need to look for alternative currency now... pay attention to what wealthy people are doing. I'll give you a hint - look at gold prices and agricultural land values.
iPads are nice n all... but there is no 'make $14,200,000,000,000,000.00 disappear' app.
Anyways, my original post was o.O who wanted the death sentence for someone who hacked useless info from an Apple server - but no outrage over those responsible for bringing a nation to it's knees over greed.
Until Apple confirms the hack I will consider this merely bragging by the script kiddie group. If the report turns out to be true, including the number of reported usernames and passwords, then is this really news worthy? Unfortunately, because it is Apple, this will be plastered all over the internet. We will see dozens of hit pieces raking Apple over the coals, advising people to dump Apple products, analyzing Apple's failure to protect its customers, predicting that iCloud will fail because of this incident. Of course the usual suspects who troll Apple centric forums will have a field day.
Have I missed anything in my predicted responses?
Nope, you're pretty much spot on.
Were these details actually stored by Apple? Normally Apple emily the services of a 3rd party to carry out online surveys etc.
It could be administered or developed by 3rd parties but they operate off Apple.com subdomains, like http://surveys.apple.com/ AFAIK. surveys.apple.com redirects to daw.apple.com which is as Apple as it gets. Only things like the Apple Certification Program has been outsourced to other domains and third parties, eg. Integral7: https://i7lp.integral7.com/durango/d...&channel=apple
Interestingly I tried to use "admin" "admin" at the surveys.apple.com URL. It says "This ID has been locked, please visit iforgot.apple.com" etc. Well, if you don't hear from me ever again because I've been "black bagged" you'll know why.
We just got back from Colombia where our friend there asked us to pay her back for the hotels she booked for us in U.S. dollars.
Err, right... Colombia, where your "friend" asked to pay her back for "hotels" "she booked for you". In US dollars no less... was that non-sequential, unmarked bills delivered in non-descript black duffel bags?
Just kidding... But you do realise how dodgy that sounded, right?
Not possible. You can't have an iTunes account without a valid credit card.
Yes, you can have an iTunes account without having to enter a credit card. You have to do it on a computer (since this definition is changing, to clarify I mean Windows or OS X). Choose a free app, download it. When signing up, choose "None" from the payment mode.
It's not very well described around the Internet, but that's the essence of it. On iOS, AFAIK, you MUST enter a credit card. But the method above still exists.
Death for 27 passwords?
Interesting view.
I'm all in favor of strong laws for security. I support the idea that companies "saving" money on security should be held accountable. However, death penalty of thieves? That's worse than Shariah. If anyone should suffer death penalty, it should be the people voting for death penalty, in my humble opinion. Let me phrase that less aggressively maybe: life is precious, and unless the individual can be unmistakenly proven to be both a danger to others and impossible to cure, I don't see who on Earth would be fit to pronounce him worthy of dying. Given the fact that I consider death penalty in general as a bad thing (due to judicial error as well as due to my personal belief that people can be morally cured... ), death penalty for mere thieving of information just baffles me.
That was for the "we should KILL 'em omgomgwtfpwnd" part.
Now, about the antenna flaw: my iPhone suffers from that flaw. I still love the device, but people pretending that it no iPhone 4 suffers from antenna flaws are mistaken. I suppose however, those people would have me beheaded for daring to say some models of the iPhone might be unperfect?
I'm from Canada eh, and our currency actually is based on pixie dust, or it may as well be, just the same as yours.
The only difference is our debt to GDP is 34% and growing. The USA is currently 99% and growing.
We still regulate our banks to some degree up here. Which is why we don't have 24% (actual) unemployment and 44 million people on food stamps and growing.
Cutting pensions to old people isn't going to remedy the 3 billion dollars a day you pay in interest to overseas banksters.
If you don't think that you need to look for alternative currency now... pay attention to what wealthy people are doing. I'll give you a hint - look at gold prices and agricultural land values.
iPads are nice n all... but there is no 'make $14,200,000,000,000,000.00 disappear' app.
Anyways, my original post was o.O who wanted the death sentence for someone who hacked useless info from an Apple server - but no outrage over those responsible for bringing a nation to it's knees over greed.
The nice thing is lots of people think like you, sir. This world might still be saved after all.... unless the Grey Death comes and only JC Denton stands between the World and Evil
Until Apple confirms the hack I will consider this merely bragging by the script kiddie group. If the report turns out to be true, including the number of reported usernames and passwords, then is this really news worthy? Unfortunately, because it is Apple, this will be plastered all over the internet. We will see dozens of hit pieces raking Apple over the coals, advising people to dump Apple products, analyzing Apple's failure to protect its customers, predicting that iCloud will fail because of this incident. Of course the usual suspects who troll Apple centric forums will have a field day.
Have I missed anything in my predicted responses?
You left out all the Apple fanboys/girls saying it's not a big deal and making excuses for the big A. Thankfully, you've already got that ball rolling. And then they'll move on to redirect the conversation by attacking Adobe Flash or Google Android.
Apple fan sites are just as predictable as any other tech forum.
Mexican banks will not accept US currency.
This is a widely known public fact that was not only on actual real news sites, but also reported on by your beloved MSM.
I'm sure you can still buy hookers, blow & tequila from Juan with US bucks... but not for much longer.
Sorry you don't trust that darn 'internet'.
Because laws aimed at money laundering are a clear proof of the death of the dollar? You can buy as many Peso as you like with a dollar transfer, you just can't do it with the physical currency.
Either you know that the issue in Mexico is money laundering, in which case you're intellectually dishonest, or you don't know in which case you are horrifyingly incurious.
Mexican banks will not accept US currency.
This is a widely known public fact that was not only on actual real news sites, but also reported on by your beloved MSM.
I'm sure you can still buy hookers, blow & tequila from Juan with US bucks... but not for much longer.
Sorry you don't trust that darn 'internet'.
The why behind this is in response to pressure from the US Government about the Mexican banks being used to launder drug money. There have been restrictions on the use of US cash currency in Mexico for some time due to this, not some hot-plated, internet-driven conspiracy theory about the fall of US currency. Seriously, get all the facts before spewing drivel. You can still use cards loaded with US dollars, travellers' cheques, and so on. Only an idiot goes aboard from the US with a wad of US bills to use for foreign transactions. Nice load of FUD there Mode. Say, since you claim to be Canadian, are you a running scared US ex-pat hiding in the NW Territories? Just curious... because it seems your overheated posts lead one to believe that you read only what you want to read and shoe-horn it into your pet conspiracy theory.
Me I'm boning up on my Mandarin - just in case. Ya estoy funcional en español para que pueda hablar con toda la gente hacer el trabajo duro por aquÃ*. *grin*
Back on topic - the level of hacking and the results (at least to someone knowledgeable) are not consequential. Judging from the files content presented by PED, nothing of concern except for those for whom unreasoning and ignorant paranoia are daily fare - like news sites and blogs.
The why behind this is in response to pressure from the US Government about the Mexican banks being used to launder drug money. There have been restrictions on the use of US cash currency in Mexico for some time due to this, not some hot-plated, internet-driven conspiracy theory about the fall of US currency. Seriously, get all the facts before spewing drivel. You can still use cards loaded with US dollars, travellers' cheques, and so on. Only an idiot goes aboard from the US with a wad of US bills to use for foreign transactions. Nice load of FUD there Mode. Say, since you claim to be Canadian, are you a running scared US ex-pat hiding in the NW Territories? Just curious... because it seems your overheated posts lead one to believe that you read only what you want to read and shoe-horn it into your pet conspiracy theory.
Me I'm boning up on my Mandarin - just in case. Ya estoy funcional en español para que pueda hablar con toda la gente hacer el trabajo duro por aquÃ*. *grin*
Back on topic - the level of hacking and the results (at least to someone knowledgeable) are not consequential. Judging from the files content presented by PED, nothing of concern except for those for whom unreasoning and ignorant paranoia are daily fare - like news sites and blogs.
Americans don't put their heads in the sand....that would at least require a bit of recognition of a problem. they just talk real loud about how much better everything is in usa....and remain deluded and ignorant.
He also says Mexico won't take the dollar. We just got back from Colombia where our friend there asked us to pay her back for the hotels she booked for us in U.S. dollars. I asked why and she said: "I am taking a vacation to Mexico later in the year, and they won't accept Colombian pesos, only U.S. dollars." Wonder where these clowns get their information. Even Fox News isn't that idiotic. Oh wait, they get it from internet forwards from other tin foil hatters.
Mexican banks will not accept US currency.
This is a widely known public fact that was not only on actual real news sites, but also reported on by your beloved MSM.
I'm sure you can still buy hookers, blow & tequila from Juan with US bucks... but not for much longer.
Sorry you don't trust that darn 'internet'.
Your "widely known public fact" meme is the red flag that identifies you as a chicken little. The only place this "fact" is widely known is in YouTube videos and blog posts. Name one actual quote or link to a responsible mainstream journal (vetted) news story that supports your assertion. Sorry, but I will not just take your word for it. The only thing you will come up with is one Oaxaca bank that is limiting the amount of dollars they will exchange for pesos at one time. Not an unusual thing. But that's the sort of "fact" that people like you conflate into a Mexican national policy to justify your sky is falling fantasies.