Big thing for me here is that this indicates that iCloud is getting extended to video sooner rather than later, which means I can stop worrying about the 2 terabytes of TV and movies I bought off Apple dying to a RAID-5 disaster. Better yet I can go and buy another 2 terabytes soon without having to worry about buying yet more storage.
I hear ya. I have 8 Terabytes (using around 5 Tb) in my htpc set up. Wife keeps lecturing me that I do not need to back up the entire internet and every piece of media ever created.
This really shows the brain power of the content creators. I can pay $7.99/mo. for Hulu Plus and watch 100's of shows. But charge me $.99 each and this is a losing proposition, for who?
Imagine if Apple used their vast wealth to create some TV channels only available for AppleTV and iTunes/iPod users that run 24 hours a day.
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There you go. I think Apple must be looking into something like that. And Steve Jobs has quite a bit of experience managing content creation from his years as Pixar CEO.
Steve talked about the need to "tear up the box" when asked about set-top boxes at All Things D last year. Maybe what he was really thinking was to "tear up the system" and leapfrog conventional cable TV with an all-internet TV network...
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Content is king. Everything else is just a distribution pipe.
I agree... content is king -- but if Apple could build a vastly superior delivery system...
"If you build it, they will come!"
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It would be more like a spray hose than a pipe...
And, consider, that the millions of iDevices have little AppleTVs built right into them.
Great... all we need now is Hulu (same as 6 months ago).
If Hulu is sold off soon, don't expect to see it on AppleTV any time soon. They have a competitive advantage over Apple and will go to the highest bidder.
Hello. Can someone tell me is there an option (I know AppleTV doesn't but how about Roku, boxee, etc.) for a box than can play live TV without the use of cable/satellite TV? Or are those still the only option to watch live TV/Sports on TV? I'd love to get rid of Comcast cable service, but until I can get live sports, ESPN, etc, I'm stuck with cable. Thank you.
That's like saying Steve Jobs has nothing to do with the rebirth or Apple because he's management, not the creative department. The fact is that Steve Jobs made both Apple and Pixar respected and wealthy companies.
No it's not. I give full credit to Jobs for the focus, and vision of what Apple was to be, what it has become and what it will be in the future. (Not as sure as I like where it's going)
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Oh, I can't agree with that at all. What was Pixar when SJ bought it? A maker of software. I owned that software, but that was it. SJ turned it into a movie studio. A very big part of a brilliant manager is to hire people who know more than he does about what a company should do, and how to do it.
Give credit where it's due.
I do. Jobs negotiated great deals as only he can. Because when he believes in something, everyone's opinion is beneath him, and he is smart enough to convince anyone he is right. That is built on a foundation that he is almost always right in his perceptive vision.
Lassiter was at Pixar from day one. He had the vision of making movies, not Jobs. Jobs thought he was buying a hardware company. Jobs loves hardware and selling it.
This is obviously based on stuff I've read over the years. I dont know any of the parties involved. As I'm pretty sure no one else posting here does.
There you go. I think Apple must be looking into something like that. And Steve Jobs has quite a bit of experience managing content creation from his years as Pixar CEO.
Steve talked about the need to "tear up the box" when asked about set-top boxes at All Things D last year. Maybe what he was really thinking was to "tear up the system" and leapfrog conventional cable TV with an all-internet TV network...
Hello. Can someone tell me is there an option (I know AppleTV doesn't but how about Roku, boxee, etc.) for a box than can play live TV without the use of cable/satellite TV? Or are those still the only option to watch live TV/Sports on TV? I'd love to get rid of Comcast cable service, but until I can get live sports, ESPN, etc, I'm stuck with cable. Thank you.
In a nutshell, you're pretty much stuck with a cable box these days if you want to watch premium content like ESPN, especially from Comcast.
If you're getting your content from a cable provider like Comcast, some sort of cable box is generally required except for unencrypted local ATSC/Open Cable (Clear QAM) channels using an ATSC tuner-equipped TV. Everything beyond basic local channels on Comcast requires at minimum a Comcast DTA (Digital Transport Adapter) box, up through one of their set-top DVRs.
An alternative for Mac users is a tuner from Elgato (www.elgato.com). Their EyeTV tuners plug into a USB port and can receive an unencrypted ATSC or NTSC signal from cable or an antenna. You won't get ESPN or other premium cable content, however, unless a Comcast cable box feeds the EyeTV tuner.
Wake me up when iTunes has live broadcast coverage for news, finance, sports and weather
You'd think Weather should be perfect for the AppleTV. From a weather app like on the iPhone, do a deal with ABC and link to their latest weather reports for your location, so they're ready to watch/stream any time. I'm in Australia, so do a deal with our local weather too.
News could REALLY be rethought. Give me a 3 minute summary of the news and let me click for each story I want to hear more on - then do the longer versions of each of those. Or just give me a list of news articles. Or just show the regular news but let me hit "right" to skip to the next article. There are lots of options.
I'd very much like to be able to link somehow to further analysis of a story, or even to go back to the 'full' story for news that has been going a couple of days with small updates but somehow I missed entirely.
What I'm saying is I don't want regular news/finance/weather... I want it to work much better.
(Sport is simpler - it needs to be live and streamed, probably with an integrated iPhone app )
HBO2GO carries current season even current episodes of HBO Programs. Seems to be precisely the same timing as the On-Demand content on Uverse, but there are some extras in the App I can not find on my TV.
I have U-verse by the way and the HBO App works great, even when travelling.
You have to _subscribe_ to HBO to get HBOGO, so, no paying for just single episodes through any service like AppleTV or Netflix. And it's only available as a separate, stand-alone service provided by your "TV provider", via an app onto iPhone, iPad, but does _not_ support airplay, therefore AppleTV does not offer current episodes even through airplay from iPad. Reviews of the app on App Store are fairly negative. And not all "TV providers" offer it - not even Time Warner Cable itself! HBO understands full well they have the best entertainment available on TV, and they'll sell it only for the monthly subscription price, or not at all.
I just realized that all of my previous purchases of Music and TV shows are now available in iTunes and on my iPhone to re-download for free from iCloud. Once they secure the rights for Movies we will be able to access any of our apple purchased media from anywhere on our Apple devices.
In a nutshell, you're pretty much stuck with a cable box these days if you want to watch premium content like ESPN, especially from Comcast.
If you're getting your content from a cable provider like Comcast, some sort of cable box is generally required except for unencrypted local ATSC/Open Cable (Clear QAM) channels using an ATSC tuner-equipped TV. Everything beyond basic local channels on Comcast requires at minimum a Comcast DTA (Digital Transport Adapter) box, up through one of their set-top DVRs.
An alternative for Mac users is a tuner from Elgato (www.elgato.com). Their EyeTV tuners plug into a USB port and can receive an unencrypted ATSC or NTSC signal from cable or an antenna. You won't get ESPN or other premium cable content, however, unless a Comcast cable box feeds the EyeTV tuner.
Thank you for the detailed response - appreciated! Now I know.
Unless you can get prime TV channels like ESPN and live sports or even live programming as it's show w/o waiting all for free or minimal price, I don't get the attraction to AppleTV/Roku, etc. I guess its good if you don't care about live programming and only want to watch TV shows 1-2 days after airing and movies. If I had one I'd only use it for Netflix streaming, not paying $1.00-4.00 for some show that comes on free TV or a movie from Apple I'm forced to watch in 24 hours. That's the turn off to me about Redbox, the being forced into a time schedule. At least on Netflix the DVD can sit around for days until I'm ready to watch.
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Something is going to have to give soon.
Big thing for me here is that this indicates that iCloud is getting extended to video sooner rather than later, which means I can stop worrying about the 2 terabytes of TV and movies I bought off Apple dying to a RAID-5 disaster. Better yet I can go and buy another 2 terabytes soon without having to worry about buying yet more storage.
I hear ya. I have 8 Terabytes (using around 5 Tb) in my htpc set up. Wife keeps lecturing me that I do not need to back up the entire internet and every piece of media ever created.
But some studios have been reluctant to participate, calling Apple's 99-cent model too inexpensive.
[ View this article at AppleInsider.com ]
This really shows the brain power of the content creators. I can pay $7.99/mo. for Hulu Plus and watch 100's of shows. But charge me $.99 each and this is a losing proposition, for who?
Wake me up when iTunes has live broadcast coverage for news, finance, sports and weather
I agree...
Get "live" TV and we can get rid of the cable TV service -- maybe trade it for faster internet speeds (we have ATT U-verse)
But, I have a beta release of iOS on the ATV that supports iOS 5 devices -- so I don't get these new features...
Bummer!
Imagine if Apple used their vast wealth to create some TV channels only available for AppleTV and iTunes/iPod users that run 24 hours a day.
Mmmm... very interesting idea...
That could provide a lateral arabesque around the cable TV stranglehold on TV delivery.
BTW, AAPL is $25 Billion and change behind XOM for the largest market cap.
sitting in my living room watching vimeo
Unless one is into Gaga goo goo-type stuff, Vimeo is pretty limited.
I've run out of things to watch there.
Is Netflix available on apple t.v.? if not, they should allow it as well. It would help both of them.
It is and was one of the biggest new feature of the current model.
Imagine if Apple used their vast wealth to create some TV channels only available for AppleTV and iTunes/iPod users that run 24 hours a day.
There you go. I think Apple must be looking into something like that. And Steve Jobs has quite a bit of experience managing content creation from his years as Pixar CEO.
Steve talked about the need to "tear up the box" when asked about set-top boxes at All Things D last year. Maybe what he was really thinking was to "tear up the system" and leapfrog conventional cable TV with an all-internet TV network...
Content is king. Everything else is just a distribution pipe.
I agree... content is king -- but if Apple could build a vastly superior delivery system...
"If you build it, they will come!"
Edit:
It would be more like a spray hose than a pipe...
And, consider, that the millions of iDevices have little AppleTVs built right into them.
Great... all we need now is Hulu (same as 6 months ago).
If Hulu is sold off soon, don't expect to see it on AppleTV any time soon. They have a competitive advantage over Apple and will go to the highest bidder.
That's like saying Steve Jobs has nothing to do with the rebirth or Apple because he's management, not the creative department. The fact is that Steve Jobs made both Apple and Pixar respected and wealthy companies.
No it's not. I give full credit to Jobs for the focus, and vision of what Apple was to be, what it has become and what it will be in the future. (Not as sure as I like where it's going)
Oh, I can't agree with that at all. What was Pixar when SJ bought it? A maker of software. I owned that software, but that was it. SJ turned it into a movie studio. A very big part of a brilliant manager is to hire people who know more than he does about what a company should do, and how to do it.
Give credit where it's due.
I do. Jobs negotiated great deals as only he can. Because when he believes in something, everyone's opinion is beneath him, and he is smart enough to convince anyone he is right. That is built on a foundation that he is almost always right in his perceptive vision.
Lassiter was at Pixar from day one. He had the vision of making movies, not Jobs. Jobs thought he was buying a hardware company. Jobs loves hardware and selling it.
This is obviously based on stuff I've read over the years. I dont know any of the parties involved. As I'm pretty sure no one else posting here does.
Until AppleTV has CableCard/Tru2Way support, it will always be a distant second as long as we still have broadcast TV.
There you go. I think Apple must be looking into something like that. And Steve Jobs has quite a bit of experience managing content creation from his years as Pixar CEO.
Steve talked about the need to "tear up the box" when asked about set-top boxes at All Things D last year. Maybe what he was really thinking was to "tear up the system" and leapfrog conventional cable TV with an all-internet TV network...
I think you're just making shit up.
Windows Media Center > AppleTV.
Until AppleTV has CableCard/Tru2Way support, it will always be a distant second as long as we still have broadcast TV.
Useless outside the USA or even in parts of the USA.
Hello. Can someone tell me is there an option (I know AppleTV doesn't but how about Roku, boxee, etc.) for a box than can play live TV without the use of cable/satellite TV? Or are those still the only option to watch live TV/Sports on TV? I'd love to get rid of Comcast cable service, but until I can get live sports, ESPN, etc, I'm stuck with cable. Thank you.
In a nutshell, you're pretty much stuck with a cable box these days if you want to watch premium content like ESPN, especially from Comcast.
If you're getting your content from a cable provider like Comcast, some sort of cable box is generally required except for unencrypted local ATSC/Open Cable (Clear QAM) channels using an ATSC tuner-equipped TV. Everything beyond basic local channels on Comcast requires at minimum a Comcast DTA (Digital Transport Adapter) box, up through one of their set-top DVRs.
An alternative for Mac users is a tuner from Elgato (www.elgato.com). Their EyeTV tuners plug into a USB port and can receive an unencrypted ATSC or NTSC signal from cable or an antenna. You won't get ESPN or other premium cable content, however, unless a Comcast cable box feeds the EyeTV tuner.
Wake me up when iTunes has live broadcast coverage for news, finance, sports and weather
You'd think Weather should be perfect for the AppleTV. From a weather app like on the iPhone, do a deal with ABC and link to their latest weather reports for your location, so they're ready to watch/stream any time. I'm in Australia, so do a deal with our local weather too.
News could REALLY be rethought. Give me a 3 minute summary of the news and let me click for each story I want to hear more on - then do the longer versions of each of those. Or just give me a list of news articles. Or just show the regular news but let me hit "right" to skip to the next article. There are lots of options.
I'd very much like to be able to link somehow to further analysis of a story, or even to go back to the 'full' story for news that has been going a couple of days with small updates but somehow I missed entirely.
What I'm saying is I don't want regular news/finance/weather... I want it to work much better.
(Sport is simpler - it needs to be live and streamed, probably with an integrated iPhone app
HBO2GO carries current season even current episodes of HBO Programs. Seems to be precisely the same timing as the On-Demand content on Uverse, but there are some extras in the App I can not find on my TV.
I have U-verse by the way and the HBO App works great, even when travelling.
You have to _subscribe_ to HBO to get HBOGO, so, no paying for just single episodes through any service like AppleTV or Netflix. And it's only available as a separate, stand-alone service provided by your "TV provider", via an app onto iPhone, iPad, but does _not_ support airplay, therefore AppleTV does not offer current episodes even through airplay from iPad. Reviews of the app on App Store are fairly negative. And not all "TV providers" offer it - not even Time Warner Cable itself! HBO understands full well they have the best entertainment available on TV, and they'll sell it only for the monthly subscription price, or not at all.
In a nutshell, you're pretty much stuck with a cable box these days if you want to watch premium content like ESPN, especially from Comcast.
If you're getting your content from a cable provider like Comcast, some sort of cable box is generally required except for unencrypted local ATSC/Open Cable (Clear QAM) channels using an ATSC tuner-equipped TV. Everything beyond basic local channels on Comcast requires at minimum a Comcast DTA (Digital Transport Adapter) box, up through one of their set-top DVRs.
An alternative for Mac users is a tuner from Elgato (www.elgato.com). Their EyeTV tuners plug into a USB port and can receive an unencrypted ATSC or NTSC signal from cable or an antenna. You won't get ESPN or other premium cable content, however, unless a Comcast cable box feeds the EyeTV tuner.
Thank you for the detailed response - appreciated! Now I know.
Unless you can get prime TV channels like ESPN and live sports or even live programming as it's show w/o waiting all for free or minimal price, I don't get the attraction to AppleTV/Roku, etc. I guess its good if you don't care about live programming and only want to watch TV shows 1-2 days after airing and movies. If I had one I'd only use it for Netflix streaming, not paying $1.00-4.00 for some show that comes on free TV or a movie from Apple I'm forced to watch in 24 hours. That's the turn off to me about Redbox, the being forced into a time schedule. At least on Netflix the DVD can sit around for days until I'm ready to watch.