what is this obsession to compare Apple with every single company or bank or goverment in the world? Stop this madness.
It's simply to prove that Apple is the best at what they do. It also has the added benefit of making any naysayers upset.
And did you know that Android users on average are both poorer and lesser educated than iOS users? Many surveys show that to be the case, here's a recent one.
"The index fell another 4 percent on Friday, dropping the combined value of its 32 members to $340 million. That's precisely the market capitalization that Apple has soared to in recent months on the success of its iPhone and iPad devices."
Good heavens, I've met people worth $340 million!
I have too -- at Woz's weddings -- some of them were even 20 years old
Just to further piss-off the trolls, here's a quote that seems appropriate to the emerging "tablet" market and the post-pc era.
Alan Kay was quoted after the original iPhone announcement:
“When the Mac first came out, Newsweek asked me what I [thought] of it. I said: Well, it’s the first personal computer worth criticizing. So at the end of the presentation, Steve came up to me and said: Is the iPhone worth criticizing? And I said: Make the screen five inches by eight inches, and you’ll rule the world.”
I registered to chime in. Long time reader and Mac owner since '85. These record/ unprecedented profits are largely on the backs of over worked, grossly underpaid, Chinese people working at Foxconn, that commit suicide when the pressure of their work conditions gets too intense. And now these same people will be replaced by machines to assemble our beloved phones and pads because of the rising cost of workers!!! So really in the end how much is enough? If Apple paid fair wages to American assembly workers what would their coffers hold? 30-40 billion? Isn't that enough?
I celebrate Apple's success like the rest of you. I remember when it seemed like it was going to end. I too was sad. But it was deserved, man that Performa 6300 I struggled with sure was a dog....Steve J did save the co. But this latest incarnation of Apple policy is troubling to me. It doesn't jibe with the Apple I knew and loved. Greed never seemed synonymous with them, now it does.
I registered to chime in. Long time reader and Mac owner since '85. These record/ unprecedented profits are largely on the backs of over worked, grossly underpaid, Chinese people working at Foxconn, that commit suicide when the pressure of their work conditions gets too intense. And now these same people will be replaced by machines to assemble our beloved phones and pads because of the rising cost of workers!!! So really in the end how much is enough? If Apple paid fair wages to American assembly workers what would their coffers hold? 30-40 billion? Isn't that enough?
I celebrate Apple's success like the rest of you. I remember when it seemed like it was going to end. I too was sad. But it was deserved, man that Performa 6300 I struggled with sure was a dog....Steve J did save the co. But this latest incarnation of Apple policy is troubling to me. It doesn't jibe with the Apple I knew and loved. Greed never seemed synonymous with them, now it does.
Welcome.
You should know that the China labor and US Jobs issues have been discussed at great length on AI forums... with no resolution.
Just a couple of points to consider:
1) without those over-worked, under-paid jobs at Foxconn -- many of those same people would be working in the fields or rice paddies -- for a back-breaking 16 hours per day. Others would be in steel mills, mines, refineries etc. with unhealthy working environments. Still others would have no jobs at all.
2) if state and federal regulations would allow Apple (and others) to manufacture in the US the cost of doing so would, likely, be prohibitive.
3) To do so, Apple would need to drastically raise their prices and reduce their profits. And they still wouldn't be competitive with those who take advantage of the Chinese system you decry.
4) By leaving markets or not being able to enter new markets, Apple would likely need to significantly reduce their physical plant and workforce around the world -- including the US. Why would Apple need build that new campus if there were no need for the 13,000 employees it will house. Loss of those construction jobs and the fanout of services (restaurants, janitors, teachers, theaters, bowling alleys, dry cleaners...) would be a significant job loss in addition to the 13,000 jobs lost at Apple.
So, you see these are not simple problems with simple solutions.
They are not problems that Apple created, nor can Apple be expected to rectify them.
I registered to chime in. Long time reader and Mac owner since '85. These record/ unprecedented profits are largely on the backs of over worked, grossly underpaid, Chinese people working at Foxconn, that commit suicide when the pressure of their work conditions gets too intense. And now these same people will be replaced by machines to assemble our beloved phones and pads because of the rising cost of workers!!! So really in the end how much is enough? If Apple paid fair wages to American assembly workers what would their coffers hold? 30-40 billion? Isn't that enough?
I celebrate Apple's success like the rest of you. I remember when it seemed like it was going to end. I too was sad. But it was deserved, man that Performa 6300 I struggled with sure was a dog....Steve J did save the co. But this latest incarnation of Apple policy is troubling to me. It doesn't jibe with the Apple I knew and loved. Greed never seemed synonymous with them, now it does.
A Mac owner since 85 and registered today? Gimme a break... Where do all these noobs come from anyway?
St least for Apple. Whats gonna happen when China Mobile comes on board.
That's the 800-pound gorilla.
Be afraid, be very afraid...
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If Samsung is shut out of Europe and elsewhere.
Then Samsung (Mobile) stock value crashes and Apple can pick it up for a song. And then they've checked Google, with its latest expensive acquisition Motorola Mobility. It's almost predictable when Apple's planning to execute the take-over: I say early November.
Meanwhile Galaxy S2s and Tab 10.1s are selling like hotcakes in Europe. That could change the picture by November.
Quote:
Also, HTC might start giving up on Android
Unlikely if you look at the numbers (installed base and new registrations per month): there are about 3 times more Android than iOS devices out there as we speak...
And what OS China Mobile will drop on the worldwide market is anybody's guess. HTC would be a natural ally.
Quote:
Android might have to look a little different to the others if Oracle gets their way.
That would be like requiring different football brands' footballs to look & feel different...
Totally Kafkaesque!
I can see the headlines: THE NEW FACE OF FOOTBALL: PYRAMIDS!
Comments
I say..........
I'm gonna do some wordplay on your name; don't take it the wrong way.
U MAD, UMAIR?
Seriously, tone it down. We can prove them wrong; we can't outright go postal on them.
Why do readers get so bent out of shape over a silly typo?
Because it questions the credibilty of the source as a whole... I know this is a rumor site, but still...
Having grown up with Apple over a nearly three-decade period when "Apple is doomed?" was the mantra, I love these stories.
If you don't like them, go somewhere else.
Thanks, AI!
Over three decades here and totally agree.
You STILL haven't gotten it right - it's $340 BILLION not million !!
They're only "European" banks.
I say FUCK**OFF u fandroids..........
So you registered a couple of months ago and now own this place?
what is this obsession to compare Apple with every single company or bank or goverment in the world? Stop this madness.
It's simply to prove that Apple is the best at what they do. It also has the added benefit of making any naysayers upset.
And did you know that Android users on average are both poorer and lesser educated than iOS users? Many surveys show that to be the case, here's a recent one.
http://blog.hunch.com/?p=51781
Also, HTC might start giving up on Android
Nope sorry, that's still a dream of yours http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/19/htc...motorola-deal/
Nice job on deleting the responses which pointed out your article's original mistake - censorship kings.
PS. You STILL haven't gotten it right - it's $340 BILLION not million !!
Hey, do you join a club or enter a bar and immediately start bitching about the way it is run.
It is a privilege, provided to you by AI, for you to be here... not your right!
Behave yourself.
"The index fell another 4 percent on Friday, dropping the combined value of its 32 members to $340 million. That's precisely the market capitalization that Apple has soared to in recent months on the success of its iPhone and iPad devices."
Good heavens, I've met people worth $340 million!
I have too -- at Woz's weddings -- some of them were even 20 years old
I have too -- at Woz's weddings -- some of them were even 20 years old
Were any attractive, single females?
Over three decades here and totally agree.
On my Birthday, Aug 29, it will be 33 years since I got my Apple ][ 16 KB RAM and game paddles.
AIR, that cost my wife $1,600 in 1978 dollars (I think about $5,000, today).
Aside: is it is it me -- or is everyone using Lion having trouble typing?
Were any attractive, single females?
No... mostly pimply-faced nerds.
At one wedding, the entertainment was Emmy Lou Harris -- and she commented that nobody had ever tried to dance to her music before.
Alan Kay was quoted after the original iPhone announcement:
“When the Mac first came out, Newsweek asked me what I [thought] of it. I said: Well, it’s the first personal computer worth criticizing. So at the end of the presentation, Steve came up to me and said: Is the iPhone worth criticizing? And I said: Make the screen five inches by eight inches, and you’ll rule the world.”
http://gigaom.com/2010/01/26/alan-ka...ule-the-world/
I celebrate Apple's success like the rest of you. I remember when it seemed like it was going to end. I too was sad. But it was deserved, man that Performa 6300 I struggled with sure was a dog....Steve J did save the co. But this latest incarnation of Apple policy is troubling to me. It doesn't jibe with the Apple I knew and loved. Greed never seemed synonymous with them, now it does.
?Foxconn...
Yes, yes, blah, blah.
I registered to chime in. Long time reader and Mac owner since '85. These record/ unprecedented profits are largely on the backs of over worked, grossly underpaid, Chinese people working at Foxconn, that commit suicide when the pressure of their work conditions gets too intense. And now these same people will be replaced by machines to assemble our beloved phones and pads because of the rising cost of workers!!! So really in the end how much is enough? If Apple paid fair wages to American assembly workers what would their coffers hold? 30-40 billion? Isn't that enough?
I celebrate Apple's success like the rest of you. I remember when it seemed like it was going to end. I too was sad. But it was deserved, man that Performa 6300 I struggled with sure was a dog....Steve J did save the co. But this latest incarnation of Apple policy is troubling to me. It doesn't jibe with the Apple I knew and loved. Greed never seemed synonymous with them, now it does.
Welcome.
You should know that the China labor and US Jobs issues have been discussed at great length on AI forums... with no resolution.
Just a couple of points to consider:
1) without those over-worked, under-paid jobs at Foxconn -- many of those same people would be working in the fields or rice paddies -- for a back-breaking 16 hours per day. Others would be in steel mills, mines, refineries etc. with unhealthy working environments. Still others would have no jobs at all.
2) if state and federal regulations would allow Apple (and others) to manufacture in the US the cost of doing so would, likely, be prohibitive.
3) To do so, Apple would need to drastically raise their prices and reduce their profits. And they still wouldn't be competitive with those who take advantage of the Chinese system you decry.
4) By leaving markets or not being able to enter new markets, Apple would likely need to significantly reduce their physical plant and workforce around the world -- including the US. Why would Apple need build that new campus if there were no need for the 13,000 employees it will house. Loss of those construction jobs and the fanout of services (restaurants, janitors, teachers, theaters, bowling alleys, dry cleaners...) would be a significant job loss in addition to the 13,000 jobs lost at Apple.
So, you see these are not simple problems with simple solutions.
They are not problems that Apple created, nor can Apple be expected to rectify them.
are these stories really necessary anymore? i think we get the point, apple is a very successful company.
Oh look, another '11 with a negative Apple approach.
I registered to chime in. Long time reader and Mac owner since '85. These record/ unprecedented profits are largely on the backs of over worked, grossly underpaid, Chinese people working at Foxconn, that commit suicide when the pressure of their work conditions gets too intense. And now these same people will be replaced by machines to assemble our beloved phones and pads because of the rising cost of workers!!! So really in the end how much is enough? If Apple paid fair wages to American assembly workers what would their coffers hold? 30-40 billion? Isn't that enough?
I celebrate Apple's success like the rest of you. I remember when it seemed like it was going to end. I too was sad. But it was deserved, man that Performa 6300 I struggled with sure was a dog....Steve J did save the co. But this latest incarnation of Apple policy is troubling to me. It doesn't jibe with the Apple I knew and loved. Greed never seemed synonymous with them, now it does.
A Mac owner since 85 and registered today? Gimme a break... Where do all these noobs come from anyway?
St least for Apple. Whats gonna happen when China Mobile comes on board.
That's the 800-pound gorilla.
Be afraid, be very afraid...
If Samsung is shut out of Europe and elsewhere.
Then Samsung (Mobile) stock value crashes and Apple can pick it up for a song. And then they've checked Google, with its latest expensive acquisition Motorola Mobility. It's almost predictable when Apple's planning to execute the take-over: I say early November.
Meanwhile Galaxy S2s and Tab 10.1s are selling like hotcakes in Europe. That could change the picture by November.
Also, HTC might start giving up on Android
Unlikely if you look at the numbers (installed base and new registrations per month): there are about 3 times more Android than iOS devices out there as we speak...
And what OS China Mobile will drop on the worldwide market is anybody's guess. HTC would be a natural ally.
Android might have to look a little different to the others if Oracle gets their way.
That would be like requiring different football brands' footballs to look & feel different...
Totally Kafkaesque!
I can see the headlines: THE NEW FACE OF FOOTBALL: PYRAMIDS!
HP/Palm are going down in flames.
Done. It was on today's headlines.
Microsoft/Nokia will probably only have one shot to prove themselves capable.
It will have to be stellarly BRILLIANT and to totally outshine iOS, Android and the others. If not they'll be out of the game for years.
Based on past performance, how big are the odds of that, would you say?