Microsoft shocked to find interest in Windows Phone 7

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in iPhone edited January 2014
After Microsoft's head of Windows Phone 7 offered free phones and training to any published webOS developers, he reported being "caught a bit flatfooted" to find 500 people interested in actually taking him up on the offer.



Shortly after HP announced the surprise termination of its mobile hardware business, Watson tweeted, "To Any Published WebOS Devs: We'll give you what you need to be successful on #WindowsPhone, incl.free phones, dev tools, and training, etc."



Microsoft similarly offered to pay iPhone developers to bring their apps to Windows Phone 7 last summer, but that didn't result in a flock of attention for the new platform. Six months later, Microsoft's own developers were still complaining that they hadn't been paid and couldn't even see if their apps were selling.



At the same time, Microsoft was advertising that 15,000 developers were "signaling their intent to bring exciting content to Windows Phone," while claiming 3,000 apps in the pipeline.



Microsoft welcomes webOS developers



After getting "more than 500 emails" inquiring about the free smartphones, Watson replied, "to be honest, we didn?t expect this level of response," adding that "It took a few days (on the weekend) to pull all the mails together into one place to allow me to respond in a smart way and not retype every mail by hand."



He concluded his note saying "We are psyched to have you aboard and to see what your imagination can do on the Windows Phone canvas," an interesting invitation given that Microsoft strongly downplayed the importance of apps as it prepared to relaunched Windows Mobile under the Windows Phone 7 brand, complete with a new UI that mixed features into a grid rather than calling attention to a library of apps.







Microsoft: a platform without first party hardware is "abandoned"



Microsoft has found itself trapped between its legacy of Windows Mobile, which once had a significant third party software platform, and its new Windows Phone 7 brand, which broke compatibility with the existing generation of stylus-driven apps to deliver a rethought user interface patterned after the Zune music player.



The company is planning to similarly remake Windows 7 to feature a touch-centric interface that runs web-based apps capable of running on ARM processors, tentatively dubbed Windows 8.



Watson claimed HP had "abandoned the [webOS] platform," despite HP's efforts to adopt a licensing business model that could actually bring webOS more into direct competition with Windows Phone 7 than it was formerly.



HP has maintained that it is not abandoning the platform, but rather just killing its hardware portfolio, although such a distinction may simply be semantic. However, Microsoft currently does not make first party hardware for its Windows, Windows Phone 7 or Slate PC platforms either.



Partner or prey?



HP was Microsoft's primary tablet partner last year when the two companies appeared on stage to tout Slate PC just prior to Apple's debut of the original iPad. HP subsequently purchased Palm and discontinued both its Windows 7 slate and its Windows Mobile smartphones in favor of its own webOS.



HP's Personal Systems Group continues to be the largest licensee of Microsoft's Windows PC platform, making Watson's unflattering digs at HP, whether automated or retyped by hand, a curious business strategy.

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  • Reply 1 of 54
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 6,136member
    500 people?
  • Reply 1 of 54
    zindakozindako Posts: 468member
    Interesting.
  • Reply 1 of 54
    esummersesummers Posts: 953member
    Probably web app in a native wrapper and game developers looking to port to yet another platform. They were probably holding off due to low market share, but jumped to get training and other support for free.



    The challenge is to get hard-core first party developers for your platform to create the best experience for your users.



    Nokia will be trying to strengthen Windows 7 soon, but my feelings are that this will be WebOS-like release with Nokia changing their mind yet again on what their strategy is. Any company not willing to commit to a long term strategy is going to fail. Windows 7 isn't competitive enough yet, so Nokia isn't going to find a lot of success right out of the gate. Microsoft is persistent though... they may be the only ones with a chance to be a third player in this market. Microsoft couldn't compete with the iPod ecosystem though. There are a lot of parallels in the smart phone ecosystem... so they may be doomed from the start.
  • Reply 4 of 54
    garamondgaramond Posts: 109member
    I'm shocked to find yet another Microsoft-article here.



    Oh wait.
  • Reply 5 of 54
    kpluckkpluck Posts: 500member
    The headline of the story is misleading and makes you guys look foolish.



    -kpluck
  • Reply 6 of 54
    jacksonsjacksons Posts: 244member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kpluck View Post


    The headline of the story is misleading and makes you guys look foolish.



    -kpluck



    The writter is DED. What did you expect?
  • Reply 7 of 54
    rot'napplerot'napple Posts: 1,839member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sflocal View Post


    500 people?



    Free Phones! What would you expect. Their current phone and tablet, Pre and HP Touchpad... DEAD. Developing for a platform to make a living... GONE!



    Imagine had Apple put forth the following... "We'll give you what you need to be successful on iPhone, incl.free phones, dev tools, and training, etc."



    What do you get?



    Anarchy, my friend. A.N.A.R.C.H.Y.!

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  • Reply 8 of 54
    What is most telling is that this MS guy is unprepared for 500.



    How much worse can it get?
  • Reply 9 of 54
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,953member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post


    What is most telling is that this MS guy is unprepared for 500.



    How much worse can it get?



    Maybe he was surprised that there were 500 webOS developers.



    All kidding aside, it makes me wonder.



    If HP can't find the value in making webOS devices themselves, why would anyone want to license it? The best I can see is some niche uses, and that's not enough to keep the platform alive. Maybe some kind of kiosk, appliance or vehicle use such as the center console or entertainment system. I see that as recovering what you can from the project, not a prospect with a likely future.
  • Reply 10 of 54
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
    What qualifies as a WebOS developer? There are probably some people who released some piece of crap, amateurish looking app for WebOS, which didn't sell much of course, and now they're just trying to get a free phone. Many people will do anything for stuff that's real cheap or even better, for free.
  • Reply 11 of 54
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Jacksons View Post


    The writter is DED. What did you expect?



    I knew from the tabloid headline that it was another DED article
  • Reply 12 of 54
    orlandoorlando Posts: 601member
    I'd be surprised too. I thought most webOS developers would be multiplatform so would already be on WP7.
  • Reply 13 of 54
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post


    I knew from the tabloid headline that it was another DED article



    Me too.
  • Reply 14 of 54
    April fool!
  • Reply 15 of 54
    Most are probably not even developers, they just want free phone and then run. lol
  • Reply 16 of 54
    banalltvbanalltv Posts: 238member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    Microsoft shocked to find interest in Windows Phone 7



    Haaaa haa ha! Tut tut, now, be nice!
  • Reply 17 of 54
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post


    I knew from the tabloid headline that it was another DED article



    Knew it was DED from the headline, but that doesn't mean it's not a good and funny headline. I don't think we should tech too seriously until the Singularity arrives.
  • Reply 18 of 54
    robin huberrobin huber Posts: 4,031member
    After backing the wrong horse, they are now picking up its poo.
  • Reply 19 of 54
    robin huberrobin huber Posts: 4,031member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rot'nApple View Post


    Free Phones! What would you expect. Their current phone and tablet, Pre and HP Touchpad... DEAD. Developing for a platform to make a living... GONE!



    Imagine had Apple put forth the following... "We'll give you what you need to be successful on iPhone, incl.free phones, dev tools, and training, etc."



    What do you get?



    Anarchy, my friend. A.N.A.R.C.H.Y.!

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    Apple could do the same thing . . . oh, wait, Apple doesn't need more apps.
  • Reply 20 of 54
    robin huberrobin huber Posts: 4,031member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post


    What qualifies as a WebOS developer? There are probably some people who released some piece of crap, amateurish looking app for WebOS, which didn't sell much of course, and now they're just trying to get a free phone. Many people will do anything for stuff that's real cheap or even better, for free.



    Look for spike in eBay auctions for unused Windows 7 phones in the original packaging.
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