I find it kind of strange to see so many in denial of Jobs health. After all he was treated for an incurable cancer and if you talk to any doc they will tell you getting a liver transplant is the final stage of keeping yourself alive when you have pancreatic cancer. Liver transplant patients get maybe 2 to 3 years more life. I was more upset back in 2004 when i heard he had pancreatic cancer after seeing a close family friend die from it in less than a year. Its still sad and even thou I have been expecting this day to come. I hope he gets to spend his remaining time with his family. he has a legacy that will not be seen again for a long time.
I don't think people are in denial; I think they're trying to be positive. Also, I think it's both rude and cruel, regardless of the reality, to post on a site like this one that someone is going to die, especially because no one (at least no one posting) knows the complete exact circumstances. One thing to remember is that unlike us ordinary mortals with ordinary health insurance, Steve has resources enabling him to get the best treatment in the world, not that that makes him immune from the ravages of serious disease and the associated treatment.
Personally, I wish (as everyone does) that he's got years left but that he's simply finally made the calculation that as someone with a serious disease, chances are he's got far less time than someone without disease and that he's decided to devote more time to his family. Also, we don't know whether it's the treatment or the disease itself that's apparently making him weak.
I am thinking could this be because Tim Cook actually wanted to be CEO?
Forget the title for a Min, Tim has been running or doing CEO 's job even before Steve's Medical Leave. Steve 's CEO title was merely a point that he holds the highest power and decision making in the company. But Steve didn't care about the Title, he cares about Apple.
Tim has previously stated that being a CEO is one of his dream. Apple needed Tim, and dont want to lose him.
So the best plan? Make a announcement that we do have succession plan. Tim will be CEO continue to do what he does every day. Steve changed the title to Chairman and Continue to make important decisions and design of the products.
BTW, if the story sounds familiar to you, that is because it is exactly what happen to Steve Ballmer and Bill Gate. Except, of coz, Steve Ballmer is not match to Tim Cook.
OK, AppleInsider, Steve has resigned. We've got this message loud and clear, and SEVERAL TIMES. Now, could we please return to normal ? There are other things to be reported.
Just wait for the Daniel Eran love-fest story that's yet to come.
Since January, Tim Cook has been acting CEO, and Steve shows up regularly to advise on important decisions. As Chairman of the Board, he will still have that privilege. The company is running smoothly under Cook and will continue to do so. I am certain that Steve has had this planned since last year. He will appear at future keynotes.
If Jobs wants to demonstrate his confidence in Cook, and have the employees and investors share that confidence, he will absolutely not appear at future keynotes, at least for the foreseeable future. If a totally new product that Steve was involved in the development of comes out, he has every right to be there, but Cook needs to stand up and take the reigns, beginning with the iPhone 5 rollout next month. Having him make an appearance, "officially" introducing Cook and handing over the keynote "reigns" would probably make a strong impression on people, but having him run the show would demonstrate who's really still in charge.
I'm sure Jobs will be essentially running the company till the day he dies. Cook no doubt knows this, and when you have a track record like Steve Jobs, you let him do it, but publicly, Cook HAS to be the man in charge. If it looks like Jobs is second guessing Cook, or doesn't trust him, the stock will plummet.
Jesus, you would think 99% of the people on here actually knew or had met the man. Newsflash - you didn't, but you did make him a billionaire with your purchases. That isn't the same thing by the way.
I wonder will there be less rabid myopism without a single vision at the helm, or will it worsen in an attempt to compensate? I really hope it's the former, years of hearing Jobs' name used like Christ have to come to an end. He was a visionary, no doubt - but was he even likeable? Debatable.
Jesus, you would think 99% of the people on here actually knew or had met the man. Newsflash - you didn't, but you did make him a billionaire with your purchases. That isn't the same thing by the way.
I wonder will there be less rabid myopism without a single vision at the helm, or will it worsen in an attempt to compensate? I really hope it's the former, years of hearing Job's name used like Christ have to come to an end. He was a visionary, no doubt - but was he even likeable? Debatable.
Likeable??!! Funny that you should bring up a quality that seems to me would be quite foreign to you.
Likeable??!! Funny that you should bring up a quality that seems to me would be quite foreign to you.
Hey, sorry if I'm not joining in the mass hysteria. I didn't know him, and I don't feel personally attached to the man who built my possessions. Do you know him personally? Do you? Honestly? Does any one person on here?
I'm not questioning his ability, but you would think he was some great humanitarian or religious leader. He was a CEO ffs, he was there to make money. He was brilliant at it, no doubt, but he was a businessman. Get over yourself - it's the same on here every time - no comeback so it's a personal jibe. You must be mates with PeaBody.
Hey, sorry if I'm not joining in the mass hysteria. I didn't know him, and I don't feel personally attached to the man who built my possessions. Do you know him personally? Do you? Honestly? Does any one person on here?
I'm not questioning his ability, but you would think he was some great humanitarian or religious leader. He was a CEO ffs, he was there to make money. He was brilliant at it, no doubt, but he was a businessman. Get over yourself - it's the same on here every time - no comeback so it's a personal jibe. You must be mates with PeaBody.
Personal jibe??!!
You don't know Steve yet you question whether or not he is likeable. WTF? If that's not a personal jibe then what I said doesn't even come close. Get over yourself.
Mass hysteria??! Are you fucking kidding. Do you even know the meaning of mass hysteria. Fuck me, man, you need to give your head a shake.
We like the guy because of what he brought to the table. He was interesting. He spearheaded a company that made products that changed people's lives... at least he certainly changed mine. I can't think of another CEO who was so personally involved with their products... who actually seemed to give a shit.
... and Steve had charisma. Maybe he was like a religious leader in many aspects. So what.
Why does it bother you so much? Maybe that's the question you should ask.
... and don't get me started on religious leaders.
You don't know Steve yet you question whether or not he is likeable. WTF? If that's not a personal jibe then what I said doesn't even come close. Get over yourself.
Mass hysteria??! Are you fucking kidding. Do you even know the meaning of mass hysteria. Fuck me, man, you need to give your head a shake.
We like the guy because of what he brought to the table. He was interesting. He spearheaded a company that made products that changed people's lives... at least he certainly changed mine. I can't think of another CEO who was so personally involved with their products... who actually seemed to give a shit.
... and Steve had charisma. Maybe he was like a religious leader in many aspects. So what.
Why does it bother you so much? Maybe that's the question you should ask.
... and don't get me started on religious leaders.
Hey, Steve Jobs has been well enough documented that he never exactly came across as a particularly likeable or forgiving man. I think the fact he had a singular vision and implemented it brilliantly is without question - he was (and is) an exceptional individual, I even admire him - but I cannot draw the conclusion that he would have been a nice person to be around. I'm hardly making that up, perhaps you should read up on a bit before shooting off your mouth.
As for hysteria? Re-read your last post. I think I do know what it means. I'm not sure you do, unless you are trying to define it by embodying it, in which case, bravo, superb job.
Nobody really knows SJ's medical condition except himself and his doctor. Many people are purely speculating. Being CEO is an incredibly demanding job and from what I've read SJ was a very hands on CEO. Being Chairman gives him the opportunity to step away from the day-to-day grind, which would likely take a toll on anyone's health, especially for a cancer and liver transplant survivor. Who knows how long SJ has to live. However long he's got, he's entitled to live in peace and comfort...
Hey, Steve Jobs has been well enough documented that he never exactly came across as a particularly likeable or forgiving man. I think the fact he had a singular vision and implemented it brilliantly is without question - he was (and is) an exceptional individual, I even admire him - but I cannot draw the conclusion that he would have been a nice person to be around. I'm hardly making that up, perhaps you should read up on a bit before shooting off your mouth.
As for hysteria? Re-read your last post. I think I do know what it means. I'm not sure you do, unless you are trying to define it by embodying it, in which case, bravo, superb job.
I think your signature takes care of the rest.
I know... you read something on the internet and you believe that Steve doesn't have any friends... that his Wife hates him... and that employees constantly leave Apple because of Steve. Maybe you should actually start thinking about what you're reading and/or change your reading habits.
Yes... my signature says the rest... and for you to point it out tells me all I need to know about you.
[ on edit: I don't think any sane or rational person would read anything close to hysteria in any of my comments to you... which tells me that you probably have issues ]
Jesus, you would think 99% of the people on here actually knew or had met the man. Newsflash - you didn't, but you did make him a billionaire with your purchases. That isn't the same thing by the way.
I wonder will there be less rabid myopism without a single vision at the helm, or will it worsen in an attempt to compensate? I really hope it's the former, years of hearing Jobs' name used like Christ have to come to an end. He was a visionary, no doubt - but was he even likeable? Debatable.
Newsflash: you don't need to meet someone to care about them or wish them well. Does "making him a billionaire" require that we think less of him?
The rest of your post is not worth debating or commenting on.
Hey, sorry if I'm not joining in the mass hysteria. I didn't know him, and I don't feel personally attached to the man who built my possessions. Do you know him personally? Do you? Honestly? Does any one person on here?
I'm not questioning his ability, but you would think he was some great humanitarian or religious leader. He was a CEO ffs, he was there to make money. He was brilliant at it, no doubt, but he was a businessman. Get over yourself - it's the same on here every time - no comeback so it's a personal jibe. You must be mates with PeaBody.
I know he is not God but he probably contributed more to the world in week then you will in your life time. People like that will attract more admiration.
If his health hasn't changed for the worst, he must be bangin' interns.
Even with this being posted back in 2011 your post is in really poor taste. Think ahead about what you say (didn't even have to go to some archive for this). Were/are you trying to paint him in some Cosby/Weinstein/etc, etc, etc... ? If you knew Steve at all you would know this is BS (a cheap sarcastic jab looking for a couple 'ha-ha's.
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I find it kind of strange to see so many in denial of Jobs health. After all he was treated for an incurable cancer and if you talk to any doc they will tell you getting a liver transplant is the final stage of keeping yourself alive when you have pancreatic cancer. Liver transplant patients get maybe 2 to 3 years more life. I was more upset back in 2004 when i heard he had pancreatic cancer after seeing a close family friend die from it in less than a year. Its still sad and even thou I have been expecting this day to come. I hope he gets to spend his remaining time with his family. he has a legacy that will not be seen again for a long time.
I don't think people are in denial; I think they're trying to be positive. Also, I think it's both rude and cruel, regardless of the reality, to post on a site like this one that someone is going to die, especially because no one (at least no one posting) knows the complete exact circumstances. One thing to remember is that unlike us ordinary mortals with ordinary health insurance, Steve has resources enabling him to get the best treatment in the world, not that that makes him immune from the ravages of serious disease and the associated treatment.
Personally, I wish (as everyone does) that he's got years left but that he's simply finally made the calculation that as someone with a serious disease, chances are he's got far less time than someone without disease and that he's decided to devote more time to his family. Also, we don't know whether it's the treatment or the disease itself that's apparently making him weak.
I am thinking could this be because Tim Cook actually wanted to be CEO?
Forget the title for a Min, Tim has been running or doing CEO 's job even before Steve's Medical Leave. Steve 's CEO title was merely a point that he holds the highest power and decision making in the company. But Steve didn't care about the Title, he cares about Apple.
Tim has previously stated that being a CEO is one of his dream. Apple needed Tim, and dont want to lose him.
So the best plan? Make a announcement that we do have succession plan. Tim will be CEO continue to do what he does every day. Steve changed the title to Chairman and Continue to make important decisions and design of the products.
BTW, if the story sounds familiar to you, that is because it is exactly what happen to Steve Ballmer and Bill Gate. Except, of coz, Steve Ballmer is not match to Tim Cook.
and Bill wasn't sick.
OK, AppleInsider, Steve has resigned. We've got this message loud and clear, and SEVERAL TIMES. Now, could we please return to normal ? There are other things to be reported.
Just wait for the Daniel Eran love-fest story that's yet to come.
Since January, Tim Cook has been acting CEO, and Steve shows up regularly to advise on important decisions. As Chairman of the Board, he will still have that privilege. The company is running smoothly under Cook and will continue to do so. I am certain that Steve has had this planned since last year. He will appear at future keynotes.
If Jobs wants to demonstrate his confidence in Cook, and have the employees and investors share that confidence, he will absolutely not appear at future keynotes, at least for the foreseeable future. If a totally new product that Steve was involved in the development of comes out, he has every right to be there, but Cook needs to stand up and take the reigns, beginning with the iPhone 5 rollout next month. Having him make an appearance, "officially" introducing Cook and handing over the keynote "reigns" would probably make a strong impression on people, but having him run the show would demonstrate who's really still in charge.
I'm sure Jobs will be essentially running the company till the day he dies. Cook no doubt knows this, and when you have a track record like Steve Jobs, you let him do it, but publicly, Cook HAS to be the man in charge. If it looks like Jobs is second guessing Cook, or doesn't trust him, the stock will plummet.
Just wait for the Daniel Eran love-fest story that's yet to come.
Some of us will like it, curmudgeon.
Having him make an appearance, "officially" introducing Cook and handing over the keynote "reigns" would probably make a strong impression on people.
It would be OK if he handed over the "reins," too.
I wonder will there be less rabid myopism without a single vision at the helm, or will it worsen in an attempt to compensate? I really hope it's the former, years of hearing Jobs' name used like Christ have to come to an end. He was a visionary, no doubt - but was he even likeable? Debatable.
Jesus, you would think 99% of the people on here actually knew or had met the man. Newsflash - you didn't, but you did make him a billionaire with your purchases. That isn't the same thing by the way.
I wonder will there be less rabid myopism without a single vision at the helm, or will it worsen in an attempt to compensate? I really hope it's the former, years of hearing Job's name used like Christ have to come to an end. He was a visionary, no doubt - but was he even likeable? Debatable.
Likeable??!! Funny that you should bring up a quality that seems to me would be quite foreign to you.
Likeable??!! Funny that you should bring up a quality that seems to me would be quite foreign to you.
Hey, sorry if I'm not joining in the mass hysteria. I didn't know him, and I don't feel personally attached to the man who built my possessions. Do you know him personally? Do you? Honestly? Does any one person on here?
I'm not questioning his ability, but you would think he was some great humanitarian or religious leader. He was a CEO ffs, he was there to make money. He was brilliant at it, no doubt, but he was a businessman. Get over yourself - it's the same on here every time - no comeback so it's a personal jibe. You must be mates with PeaBody.
Does any one person on here?
If anybody would, Dick Applebaum would, though maybe not the most modern Steve.
Hey, sorry if I'm not joining in the mass hysteria. I didn't know him, and I don't feel personally attached to the man who built my possessions. Do you know him personally? Do you? Honestly? Does any one person on here?
I'm not questioning his ability, but you would think he was some great humanitarian or religious leader. He was a CEO ffs, he was there to make money. He was brilliant at it, no doubt, but he was a businessman. Get over yourself - it's the same on here every time - no comeback so it's a personal jibe. You must be mates with PeaBody.
Personal jibe??!!
You don't know Steve yet you question whether or not he is likeable. WTF? If that's not a personal jibe then what I said doesn't even come close. Get over yourself.
Mass hysteria??! Are you fucking kidding. Do you even know the meaning of mass hysteria. Fuck me, man, you need to give your head a shake.
We like the guy because of what he brought to the table. He was interesting. He spearheaded a company that made products that changed people's lives... at least he certainly changed mine. I can't think of another CEO who was so personally involved with their products... who actually seemed to give a shit.
... and Steve had charisma. Maybe he was like a religious leader in many aspects. So what.
Why does it bother you so much? Maybe that's the question you should ask.
... and don't get me started on religious leaders.
That's right, I'm still not over Schmidt.
Personal jibe??!!
You don't know Steve yet you question whether or not he is likeable. WTF? If that's not a personal jibe then what I said doesn't even come close. Get over yourself.
Mass hysteria??! Are you fucking kidding. Do you even know the meaning of mass hysteria. Fuck me, man, you need to give your head a shake.
We like the guy because of what he brought to the table. He was interesting. He spearheaded a company that made products that changed people's lives... at least he certainly changed mine. I can't think of another CEO who was so personally involved with their products... who actually seemed to give a shit.
... and Steve had charisma. Maybe he was like a religious leader in many aspects. So what.
Why does it bother you so much? Maybe that's the question you should ask.
... and don't get me started on religious leaders.
Hey, Steve Jobs has been well enough documented that he never exactly came across as a particularly likeable or forgiving man. I think the fact he had a singular vision and implemented it brilliantly is without question - he was (and is) an exceptional individual, I even admire him - but I cannot draw the conclusion that he would have been a nice person to be around. I'm hardly making that up, perhaps you should read up on a bit before shooting off your mouth.
As for hysteria? Re-read your last post. I think I do know what it means. I'm not sure you do, unless you are trying to define it by embodying it, in which case, bravo, superb job.
I think your signature takes care of the rest.
If his health hasn't changed for the worst, he must be bangin' interns.
You must be talking about Le.
Hey, Steve Jobs has been well enough documented that he never exactly came across as a particularly likeable or forgiving man. I think the fact he had a singular vision and implemented it brilliantly is without question - he was (and is) an exceptional individual, I even admire him - but I cannot draw the conclusion that he would have been a nice person to be around. I'm hardly making that up, perhaps you should read up on a bit before shooting off your mouth.
As for hysteria? Re-read your last post. I think I do know what it means. I'm not sure you do, unless you are trying to define it by embodying it, in which case, bravo, superb job.
I think your signature takes care of the rest.
I know... you read something on the internet and you believe that Steve doesn't have any friends... that his Wife hates him... and that employees constantly leave Apple because of Steve. Maybe you should actually start thinking about what you're reading and/or change your reading habits.
Yes... my signature says the rest... and for you to point it out tells me all I need to know about you.
[ on edit: I don't think any sane or rational person would read anything close to hysteria in any of my comments to you... which tells me that you probably have issues ]
Jesus, you would think 99% of the people on here actually knew or had met the man. Newsflash - you didn't, but you did make him a billionaire with your purchases. That isn't the same thing by the way.
I wonder will there be less rabid myopism without a single vision at the helm, or will it worsen in an attempt to compensate? I really hope it's the former, years of hearing Jobs' name used like Christ have to come to an end. He was a visionary, no doubt - but was he even likeable? Debatable.
Newsflash: you don't need to meet someone to care about them or wish them well. Does "making him a billionaire" require that we think less of him?
The rest of your post is not worth debating or commenting on.
Hey, sorry if I'm not joining in the mass hysteria. I didn't know him, and I don't feel personally attached to the man who built my possessions. Do you know him personally? Do you? Honestly? Does any one person on here?
I'm not questioning his ability, but you would think he was some great humanitarian or religious leader. He was a CEO ffs, he was there to make money. He was brilliant at it, no doubt, but he was a businessman. Get over yourself - it's the same on here every time - no comeback so it's a personal jibe. You must be mates with PeaBody.
I know he is not God but he probably contributed more to the world in week then you will in your life time. People like that will attract more admiration.