Google, T-Mobile petition ITC to allow Android to freely infringe Apple's iOS

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  • Reply 81 of 118
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz View Post


    Can you tell me just 3 things Apple has done "wrong" in the past 5 years?



    Not necessarily my opinion, but people didn't like:



    1. The removal of FireWire on the MacBook in 2008 (resulting in a 1600+ user reply thread):

    http://www.appleinsider.com/articles..._firewire.html



    2. Discontinuation of the Xserve

    (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...n_31_2011.html



    3. FCPX

    http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...essionals.html
  • Reply 82 of 118
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    Originally Posted by Yuniverse View Post






    Yes, twins.



    so that's Android huh? I swear that's touchwhiz...and the App Drawer of TouchWhiz to boot.



    (the same TouchWhiz even Android fans complained about being too iOS like -_-)
  • Reply 83 of 118
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    Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post


    Not necessarily my opinion, but people didn't like:



    1. The removal of FireWire on the MacBook in 2008 (resulting in a 1600+ user reply thread):

    http://www.appleinsider.com/articles..._firewire.html



    2. Discontinuation of the Xserve

    (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...n_31_2011.html



    3. FCPX

    http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...essionals.html



    hmmm, that was a stupid question in retrospect considering I knew people had issues with those three things. lol.
  • Reply 84 of 118
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    Originally Posted by anonymouse View Post


    Well, yes, i'm sure you'd be very happy if no one pointed out what a weasilly liar you are. Apparently you can't construct a single sentence without misrepresenting facts.



    no, you can counteract my points with counterpoints however often you want. It's the name calling I cannot stand.
  • Reply 85 of 118
    linkgx1linkgx1 Posts: 742member
    Since I still have my Vibrant....once the iPhone 4S arrives...I'm gonna put on some love music on (would "Sexual Healing" be appropriate?), close the bedroom door and see what happens.
  • Reply 86 of 118
    bartfatbartfat Posts: 434member
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    Originally Posted by linkgx1 View Post


    Also, why can't you use a more recent iteration of the Galaxy S....like the Galaxy SII?



    Ok, here's one of the Galaxy S II. It's not twins, but it is a similar clone of the iPhone UI in one specific aspect. I bet Apple has an issue with Samsung making it look this way exactly, hence the lawsuit. And the subsequent name-calling.



    They even copied the metal bezel around iPhone 4. They just made it black instead of silver. Also, the icons are noticeably similar as well. Contacts, Phone, Music Hub, wow, those look similar, where have I seen those before? They didn't even bother to change the color of the background of the icons.
  • Reply 87 of 118
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    Originally Posted by Aquatic View Post


    Yeah that's a bit Orwellian. Keep your hands of my Droid, thanks. It can do tons of stuff even iPhone 4S with iOS can NOT do. Stuff I like. Like Flash. I can do things you are not allowed to do because Apple said so. Freedom of the market..what? How is yanking an open source OS from the market freedom of the market?



    First of all, Google is trying to have their cake and eat it too. On the one hand, they pat themselves on the back at keynotes and say that they are the top platform. Yet, on the other hand, they are trying to make Apple out to be the top dog and themselves out to be the underdogs in the market. Google can't have it both ways.



    Also, I don't care if Android is an open-source OS. It doesn't change the fact that certain technologies may be infringing on someone else's intellectual property. It's not okay to rip off someone's IP and give it away under the guise of an open-source license.



    Google's argument sounds like this: "Listen ITC, we know Goliath has rights, but he's just too powerful. If you were to protect his rights, he would run roughshod over everybody else. So in the interest of the pubic, you should lock him up and throw away the key."
  • Reply 88 of 118
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz View Post


    no, you can counteract my points with counterpoints however often you want. It's the name calling I cannot stand.



    See, the problem there is that you're very prone to respond to posts with some variant on "LOL fan boys are pathetic" or "You people make me laugh" or "this forum is full of fools." etc.



    I guess you figure you're being discreet because you don't address people directly, but name calling is name calling. In fact, i would say constant appeals to how "you people" or "fanboys" or "Apple people" or "this forum" is foolish and easily duped is far worse than simply taking an individual poster to task, because it erodes the general civility and sense of community that a board like this ideally exhibits.



    Worse still, hiding behind generalized insults while bemoaning same if anyone takes you on directly is cowardly. If you don't like being called a weasel, either lay off the "Ha ha I'm amused by the losers" shit or deal with people directly so they can respond.



    And yes, I've singled you out (as I'm sure you'll get cranky about) because you seem like a pretty bright guy (I don't even bother with the throng of "LOL Apple sux" lads that we seem to never be rid of). You claim to be refuting disinformation, but that's self aggrandizing bullshit. Calling people fanboys and rolling your eyes and sighing heavily is just irritating and adds nothing to the thread beyond inflaming attitudes. Unless that's what you want, you could bring far more to the boards by just making your observations on the relative merits of various technologies without the snark.
  • Reply 89 of 118
    linkgx1linkgx1 Posts: 742member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bartfat View Post


    Ok, here's one of the Galaxy S II. It's not twins, but it is a similar clone of the iPhone UI in one specific aspect. I bet Apple has an issue with Samsung making it look this way exactly, hence the lawsuit. And the subsequent name-calling.



    They even copied the metal bezel around iPhone 4. They just made it black instead of silver. Also, the icons are noticeably similar as well. Contacts, Phone, Music Hub, wow, those look similar, where have I seen those before? They didn't even bother to change the color of the background of the icons.



    Okay, now that's a better argument that they made it more similar. But they did change it some on the Galaxy SII (Touchwiz 4.0/App drawer has your wallpaper instead of black).



    The issue I have is everyone's attacking Samsung when I've seen people do MORE blantant copying (LG's icons look closer to iPhone).



    Then again, if Apple decided to come out with a TV...I can see them taking cues from Samsung.



    Damn, why can't Apple and Samsung just COMBINED to make one SUPER POWER? MUHAHAHHAH!
  • Reply 90 of 118
    linkgx1linkgx1 Posts: 742member
    I hate anything on Android that's not on Touchwiz. Especially HTC's Sense (I've gotten into a few argumetns with HTC fanbois). I like simple click stuff. Not all these fancy swyping!
  • Reply 91 of 118
    bongobongo Posts: 158member
    I am still waiting for jragosta to answer the twin os issue.

    Where is she/he?
  • Reply 92 of 118
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by addabox View Post


    See, the problem there is that you're very prone to respond to posts with some variant on "LOL fan boys are pathetic" or "You people make me laugh" or "this forum is full of fools." etc.



    I guess you figure you're being discreet because you don't address people directly, but name calling is name calling. In fact, i would say constant appeals to how "you people" or "fanboys" or "Apple people" or "this forum" is foolish and easily duped is far worse than simply taking an individual poster to task, because it erodes the general civility and sense of community that a board like this ideally exhibits.



    Worse still, hiding behind generalized insults while bemoaning same if anyone takes you on directly is cowardly. If you don't like being called a weasel, either lay off the "Ha ha I'm amused by the losers" shit or deal with people directly so they can respond.



    And yes, I've singled you out (as I'm sure you'll get cranky about) because you seem like a pretty bright guy (I don't even bother with the throng of "LOL Apple sux" lads that we seem to never be rid of). You claim to be refuting disinformation, but that's self aggrandizing bullshit. Calling people fanboys and rolling your eyes and sighing heavily is just irritating and adds nothing to the thread beyond inflaming attitudes. Unless that's what you want, you could bring far more to the boards by just making your observations on the relative merits of various technologies without the snark.



    Pay attention to what I respond to. I never make the first comment. Always reactionary. Plus I've made it quite clear that an Apple fan isn't the same as a fanatic just as a Christian isn't a fundamentalist.



    Besides you are more vile towards anyone who doesn't worship Apple than I will ever be to apple fans. Ever.
  • Reply 93 of 118
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bartfat View Post


    Ok, here's one of the Galaxy S II. It's not twins, but it is a similar clone of the iPhone UI in one specific aspect. I bet Apple has an issue with Samsung making it look this way exactly, hence the lawsuit. And the subsequent name-calling.



    They even copied the metal bezel around iPhone 4. They just made it black instead of silver. Also, the icons are noticeably similar as well. Contacts, Phone, Music Hub, wow, those look similar, where have I seen those before? They didn't even bother to change the color of the background of the icons.



    Still the app drawer -_-



    Hey you can have someone place the icons on the screen in grid pattern too. Or download a third party launcher and find a fan made iPhone skin and then boom...clone.



    Edit: not sure why I'm arguing as touchwhiz is inspired by iOS. My argument goes to those who say Android is an iOS clone which is shocking considering they don't look alike o.O



    Newer touchwhiz isn't as iOS like as it was.



    Also Apple doesn't own metal around phones. It's been done before.
  • Reply 94 of 118
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bongo View Post


    I am still waiting for jragosta to answer the twin os issue.

    Where is she/he?



    What twin OS issue? And what makes you think that I care what you are waiting for?
  • Reply 95 of 118
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by linkgx1 View Post


    That's a flawed comparison. You're using one manfacturer's one to represent the entire Android community. Why couldn't you use an HTC phone screen shot? Oh, right that defeats the argument entirely. And twins is an exact copy....but I don't see an Android market icon on ANY iOS device. Nor do I see allshare. Also, why can't you use a more recent iteration of the Galaxy S....like the Galaxy SII? Also, the iPhone doesn't have captacative buttons.



    Here's a link to a picture on Samsung's site:-







    Besides, the court cases involve the similarities rather than the differences.
  • Reply 96 of 118
    linkgx1linkgx1 Posts: 742member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hill60 View Post


    Here's a link to a picture on Samsung's site:-







    Besides, the court cases involve the similarities rather than the differences.



    Come to think of that pic reminds me of the LG Chocolate. OH, THE GOOD 'OL DAYS!
  • Reply 97 of 118
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by linkgx1 View Post


    Come to think of that pic reminds me of the LG Chocolate. OH, THE GOOD 'OL DAYS!



    Ah, remember when the RAZR was new? It was THE phone. All sorts of fanciness and features. Then the Chocolate came out and it had a TOUCHSCREEN. I mean, gasp, man. It's the FUTURE(ish).



    Good times, good times.



    Amazing how relative "good" looks nowadays, huh?
  • Reply 98 of 118
    linkgx1linkgx1 Posts: 742member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


    Ah, remember when the RAZR was new? It was THE phone. All sorts of fanciness and features. Then the Chocolate came out and it had a TOUCHSCREEN. I mean, gasp, man. It's the FUTURE(ish).



    Good times, good times.



    Amazing how relative "good" looks nowadays, huh?



    Lolz. I remeber wanting the RAZR so badly....just a couple years ago. Now that phone is so DATED. Wow.



    I can usually tell how old a movie is now just by the phones they use!
  • Reply 99 of 118
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by linkgx1 View Post


    Lolz. I remeber wanting the RAZR so badly....just a couple years ago. Now that phone is so DATED. Wow.



    I can usually tell how old a movie is now just by the phones they use!



    Lol. I never wanted the razr or any Motorola phone. The thinness was cool but the buttons and ui sucked. Motorola always sucked at ui. The followup razresque phones were hideous too.
  • Reply 100 of 118
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by linkgx1 View Post


    Come to think of that pic reminds me of the LG Chocolate. OH, THE GOOD 'OL DAYS!



    Really?



    The one released AFTER the iPhone.







    I'm not seeing it.



    Chalk and cheese.



    http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...=IQFRRS#x0y594
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