I think it was merely a fandoid who stumbled upon AI, and didn't know that the accumulated knowledge here would trump everything he has written, and he didn't bother to read a little bit before making such a post.
So many real-world comparisons have been done between the latest droids and iphones that anyone who takes the time to do so, will see the Wizard of Droid for all the hucksterism he represents, and ask Toto to remove the curtain.
There are a lot of HW features in Android-based devices. LG now has a 4.3" IPS display with 329ppi, or 3ppi more than the iPhone 4/4S. That doesn't detail the quality of the IPS panel compared to Apple's IPS panel (which I think LG makes), or the quality of the backlight they'll use, or the power efficiency of the panel and backlight, but it's still a nice feature in and of itself.
Android OS also has a lot of features I wish the iPhone would have or had earlier, but most of them seem to be so poorly implemented. Like they took every clever idea they could think of and then implemented it to the bare minimum technical level to say they have it.
It's hard to quantify usability but Android-based devices just don't seem to close to being as usable as the iPhone. I've tired plenty. I've also tried a WP7-based device (pre-Mango) and it was good. It was different from the iPhone in ways I particularly didn't care for, but it didn't feel like a half-assed job at trying to add "me first" SW features.
In Canada, most 3GS users are out of luck. Our carriers besides having 3 year contracts, have changed the upgrade eligibility from 24 to 30 months, meaning we have to wait until Christmas to get a 4S without paying a huge penalty.
I was one click away from selling at $420. I've always been long on Apple, but I figured it was due for a sell-off... Sigh, I guess I'm just an investor and not a trader... Pity!
I was also at the selling screen when Apple was at $411. As I sat and thought about it, I decided not to. This time, I have a price in mind when I will definitely sell half of my shares.
I heard that with all the great new Android phones coming to market and Apple screwing their customer base yet again with an old, flawed design that the iPhone 4S will be a flop.
Yeah... A really really really big flop -- less than 30 million units per quarter...
I upgraded to a 4S because I want to use an iPhone and not an Android phone. In addition, my old iPhone was out of warranty, so I sold it on eBay. So, I am buying the most current model which affords me a warranty. Next year, if the new design is so radical that I cannot do without it, I will simply sell my 4S and pay the difference for an unlocked model. This comes to about $250 - $300 that I need to save up by next fall. I think I can accomplish saving $300 in a year. If I (or anyone else) cannot afford $300 every year for an out of contract upgrade...they should not be using a smartphone with an expensive data plan in the first place.
Hopefully Apple will never listen to people like you!
If you bought a Samsung SII, then good for you, I am extremely happy for you, but don't fool yourself into thinking that it's better than the iPhone 4S.
I realize that you have to justify your purchase, that is basic human psychology, but I am sorry to inform you that you made a mistake, and no matter what you try to tell yourself, you made the wrong decision!
I saw some preliminary benchmarks of the iPhone 4S and the iPhone kills the Samsung SII! It totally rapes the Samsung and humiliates it in numerous benchmarks.
What Android people seem to forget, is that the hardware specs don't really matter at all when your OS is complete fucking crap! The OS is slow, unoptimized, it's layer after layer of garbage and all of the specs in the world won't help you out!
Anyway, have fun with your Samsung. Why would somebody even bother to sign up here and write such a funny post as yours?
Apple will never listen to the likes of you. You are thinking wrong.
I find your post really funny. You talk about how he's wrong for how he justified his phone purchase, then in the same post you did the same thing!
Everyone has a different set of priorities that they base their purchases on, and saying his are wrong and yours are right sounds foolish to me.
When will people learn that "The Best" is nothing more then BS.
In my opinion, "The Best" is actually what works best for you individually.
I heard that with all the great new Android phones coming to market and Apple screwing their customer base yet again with an old, flawed design that the iPhone 4S will be a flop.
And it's still not "open."
Apple will clearly be out of business by tomorrow.
Apple will clearly be out of business by tomorrow.
It might take a few weeks now for Apple to file for Chapter 11. Apparently the majority of people paying hundreds for the iPhone 4S pre-order and signing up for 2-year contracts with their carrier is solely to honour the former CEO of Apple. That makes perfect sense, right?¡
It is clear that none of you are talking based on any real current experience. I used my iphone 4 for home and professional/corporate use: from presentations to document browsing, etc. The need to share documents using direct wi-fi is a must, changing the battery in a couple of seconds to get 8 hours or more is a must, clear blue-tooth communication is a must, expandable/interchangeable memory is a must, you call this a whine? You should check the latest android phones and you will not be making stupid remarks on other advanced phones.
My brother have an iphone 4S, and the only thing faster is the graphics; else the Samsung S2 is faster and more usable for most other tasks: browsing, etc.
Stability? My S2 has never crashed so I don't know were you got your experience..
Half of my household still have iphones 4s, so we know exactly how they currently perform in comparison..
If you think that an iphone is superior, good for you. As long as the phone lets you do all what you need/like to do, any phone will be a good phone...
Corporate wise, without interchangeable batteries, high capacity interchangeable memory, without direct wi-fi for document/image transfer, without real usable app management, without fast browsing, etc. the iphone will not be very useful for corporate/complex use. I can see it will be good for teenagers though...
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Originally Posted by Psych_guy
I call bullshit on your "I'm a disaffected Apple user" whine." You're an astroturfer.
Every criticism that you bring up has been asked and answered and while the battery whine and the dijsplay whine have been addressed to the tune of millions and millions of iPhones sold, you come here and sling the same shit. Who paid you? Samsung? Microsoft?
However, at the end of the day you answered your own question and the question of every other Fandroid. The iPhone is not for you. Move on. Get over the fact that the iPhone 4s is apparently a success
Oh one last thing, did you send this big long whine to Apple's feedback email address to actually try to make your point known? Or are you just astroturfung?
Not really, the S2 has a easily removable snap-in back cover. You can change the battery and/or micro SD card in 8 seconds or so, and boot your iphone and you are ready to go.. I do this all the time during plane flights, long presentations, family HD slideshows/movies, etc. No way to do this on an iphone, but easily done on the S2...
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Originally Posted by solipsism
Many things to point out but this one hits dead center on you not thinking rationally.
Not really, the S2 has a easily removable snap-in back cover. You can change the battery and/or micro SD card in 8 seconds or so, and boot your iphone and you are ready to go.. I do this all the time during plane flights, long presentations, family HD slideshows/movies, etc. No way to do this on an iphone, but easily done on the S2...
Yes, really! How do you charge the 2nd battery? You have play musical chairs with your batteries. If you have 2 batteries and you use two a day you are then switching them back again to charge them separately which means you have to wait for hours for them to charge. That's a huge pain in the ass.
If you were smart you'd use a phone, like the iPhone, that lasts considerably longer for any heavy data usage.
Or you would buy a great accessory like Mophie Juice Pack or a battery pack that will quick charge through the dock connector. These two can more than double the life of your iPhone's battery without having to take your phone apart. The Juice Pack, which is still smaller overall than most Android phones, can charge both batteries at once (and sync), and the dock connector batteries can be charged at the same time as your iPhone so you don't have to wake up in the middle of the night to play switch-a-roo with your S2 batteries thus letting you get a good night's sleep before that long plane flight.
PS: Pro tip: Use your phone for entertainment on a long trip but plug into your notebook to quickly recharge many, many times over. Also woks with iPad.
As I mentioned in an earlier post. I have owned all iphones since they came out. I still own every single quality gadget for the iphones, hdmi output, sd card, battery extenders, built-in battery cases, bose/iphone systems (which is were my old iphone4 is), etc.
I used to connect my iphone, too, to the laptop usb during long presentations, since the video cables had a charging extension, but then you cannot use your iphone as a presentation remote, since you are tethered to the laptop..
I personally have 4 batteries for my S2, which is enough for me to last for a couple of days trips. My S2 lasts 6 to 8 hours, or around 4 hours working it very hard. Changing a battery every 6 to 8 hours is not a pain.
It's amazing that people adore slim phones but because of the phones being prone to breaking, they buy huge protective cases that defeat the purpose. On the S2, I don't need a case, it does not break as easily as the iphone, so the battery can be changed easily without weird attachments cases that defeat the phone design.
Don't get me wrong, I like/liked all my iphones 3/3G/3GS/4 but I don't like the iphone 4s because it is a marketing/profit phone that does not add real usability value and does not address the issues that heavy iphone users have.
The phone I need and like is the phone that can do what I need to do, for work, home, etc. For the longest time, the iphone was the closest thing, but now Apple is not addressing issues and enhancing the iphone at the speed that other manufacturers are. Apple seems more concentrated in maximizing profits. Just compare the 3/3G/3GS/4 phones, there have just limited incremental enhancements. Make Apple provide a better usable/advanced phone than it's competitors and I will buy it, but for now, the iphone 4s is not the top phone, usability/practicality wise. I am older, so maybe I am not blinded by bling-bling advertising but more by usability and practicality features.. Maybe the iphone 5 will be the innovative phone, but nobody will know until they release it some time in the future.
One more thing, the iphone 4's lasts only around 2 to 3 hours of heavy use, and the iphone 4s has serious battery draining issues, and if you use the iphone 4s for heavy games, the battery will drain even faster. Those iphone 4 charts doesn't hit reality, and most likely anybody with an iphone 4 will know they are not accurate.
AC
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Originally Posted by solipsism
Yes, really! How do you charge the 2nd battery? You have play musical chairs with your batteries. If you have 2 batteries and you use two a day you are then switching them back again to charge them separately which means you have to wait for hours for them to charge. That's a huge pain in the ass.
If you were smart you'd use a phone, like the iPhone, that lasts considerably longer for any heavy data usage.
Or you would buy a great accessory like Mophie Juice Pack or a battery pack that will quick charge through the dock connector. These two can more than double the life of your iPhone's battery without having to take your phone apart. The Juice Pack, which is still smaller overall than most Android phones, can charge both batteries at once (and sync), and the dock connector batteries can be charged at the same time as your iPhone so you don't have to wake up in the middle of the night to play switch-a-roo with your S2 batteries thus letting you get a good night's sleep before that long plane flight.[INDENT]
PS: Pro tip: Use your phone for entertainment on a long trip but plug into your notebook to quickly recharge many, many times over. Also woks with iPad.
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I'm just curious.
What motivated you to remove the capitalization from my response when you quoted it?
Capitalization has real functions: it notifies the reader of a new sentence and also highlights proper names. I put it there for a reason.
He's just being 'cool.' I guess.
I think it was merely a fandoid who stumbled upon AI, and didn't know that the accumulated knowledge here would trump everything he has written, and he didn't bother to read a little bit before making such a post.
So many real-world comparisons have been done between the latest droids and iphones that anyone who takes the time to do so, will see the Wizard of Droid for all the hucksterism he represents, and ask Toto to remove the curtain.
There are a lot of HW features in Android-based devices. LG now has a 4.3" IPS display with 329ppi, or 3ppi more than the iPhone 4/4S. That doesn't detail the quality of the IPS panel compared to Apple's IPS panel (which I think LG makes), or the quality of the backlight they'll use, or the power efficiency of the panel and backlight, but it's still a nice feature in and of itself.
Android OS also has a lot of features I wish the iPhone would have or had earlier, but most of them seem to be so poorly implemented. Like they took every clever idea they could think of and then implemented it to the bare minimum technical level to say they have it.
It's hard to quantify usability but Android-based devices just don't seem to close to being as usable as the iPhone. I've tired plenty. I've also tried a WP7-based device (pre-Mango) and it was good. It was different from the iPhone in ways I particularly didn't care for, but it didn't feel like a half-assed job at trying to add "me first" SW features.
Showoff!
I was one click away from selling at $420. I've always been long on Apple, but I figured it was due for a sell-off... Sigh, I guess I'm just an investor and not a trader... Pity!
I was also at the selling screen when Apple was at $411. As I sat and thought about it, I decided not to. This time, I have a price in mind when I will definitely sell half of my shares.
I heard that with all the great new Android phones coming to market and Apple screwing their customer base yet again with an old, flawed design that the iPhone 4S will be a flop.
Yeah... A really really really big flop -- less than 30 million units per quarter...
Yeah... A really really really big flop -- less than 30 million units per quarter...
It better not be only 30 million units... the analysts are expecting at least 32 million units.
j/k
I upgraded to a 4S because I want to use an iPhone and not an Android phone. In addition, my old iPhone was out of warranty, so I sold it on eBay. So, I am buying the most current model which affords me a warranty. Next year, if the new design is so radical that I cannot do without it, I will simply sell my 4S and pay the difference for an unlocked model. This comes to about $250 - $300 that I need to save up by next fall. I think I can accomplish saving $300 in a year. If I (or anyone else) cannot afford $300 every year for an out of contract upgrade...they should not be using a smartphone with an expensive data plan in the first place.
Hopefully Apple will never listen to people like you!
If you bought a Samsung SII, then good for you, I am extremely happy for you, but don't fool yourself into thinking that it's better than the iPhone 4S.
I realize that you have to justify your purchase, that is basic human psychology, but I am sorry to inform you that you made a mistake, and no matter what you try to tell yourself, you made the wrong decision!
I saw some preliminary benchmarks of the iPhone 4S and the iPhone kills the Samsung SII!
What Android people seem to forget, is that the hardware specs don't really matter at all when your OS is complete fucking crap! The OS is slow, unoptimized, it's layer after layer of garbage and all of the specs in the world won't help you out!
Anyway, have fun with your Samsung. Why would somebody even bother to sign up here and write such a funny post as yours?
Apple will never listen to the likes of you. You are thinking wrong.
I find your post really funny. You talk about how he's wrong for how he justified his phone purchase, then in the same post you did the same thing!
Everyone has a different set of priorities that they base their purchases on, and saying his are wrong and yours are right sounds foolish to me.
When will people learn that "The Best" is nothing more then BS.
In my opinion, "The Best" is actually what works best for you individually.
I'm just curious.
What motivated you to remove the capitalization from my response when you quoted it?
Capitalization has real functions: it notifies the reader of a new sentence and also highlights proper names. I put it there for a reason.
I didn't.
My response was in all caps and AI auto removes fully capped posts so in doing so it must've removed it from your quoted post as well.
I heard that with all the great new Android phones coming to market and Apple screwing their customer base yet again with an old, flawed design that the iPhone 4S will be a flop.
And it's still not "open."
Apple will clearly be out of business by tomorrow.
And it's still not "open."
Apple will clearly be out of business by tomorrow.
It might take a few weeks now for Apple to file for Chapter 11. Apparently the majority of people paying hundreds for the iPhone 4S pre-order and signing up for 2-year contracts with their carrier is solely to honour the former CEO of Apple. That makes perfect sense, right?¡
My brother have an iphone 4S, and the only thing faster is the graphics; else the Samsung S2 is faster and more usable for most other tasks: browsing, etc.
Stability? My S2 has never crashed so I don't know were you got your experience..
Half of my household still have iphones 4s, so we know exactly how they currently perform in comparison..
If you think that an iphone is superior, good for you. As long as the phone lets you do all what you need/like to do, any phone will be a good phone...
Corporate wise, without interchangeable batteries, high capacity interchangeable memory, without direct wi-fi for document/image transfer, without real usable app management, without fast browsing, etc. the iphone will not be very useful for corporate/complex use. I can see it will be good for teenagers though...
I call bullshit on your "I'm a disaffected Apple user" whine." You're an astroturfer.
Every criticism that you bring up has been asked and answered and while the battery whine and the dijsplay whine have been addressed to the tune of millions and millions of iPhones sold, you come here and sling the same shit. Who paid you? Samsung? Microsoft?
However, at the end of the day you answered your own question and the question of every other Fandroid. The iPhone is not for you. Move on. Get over the fact that the iPhone 4s is apparently a success
Oh one last thing, did you send this big long whine to Apple's feedback email address to actually try to make your point known? Or are you just astroturfung?
...changing the battery in a couple of seconds to get 8 hours or more is a must...
Many things to point out but this one hits dead center on you not thinking rationally.
Many things to point out but this one hits dead center on you not thinking rationally.
Not really, the S2 has a easily removable snap-in back cover. You can change the battery and/or micro SD card in 8 seconds or so, and boot your iphone and you are ready to go.. I do this all the time during plane flights, long presentations, family HD slideshows/movies, etc. No way to do this on an iphone, but easily done on the S2...
Yes, really! How do you charge the 2nd battery? You have play musical chairs with your batteries. If you have 2 batteries and you use two a day you are then switching them back again to charge them separately which means you have to wait for hours for them to charge. That's a huge pain in the ass.
If you were smart you'd use a phone, like the iPhone, that lasts considerably longer for any heavy data usage. Or you would buy a great accessory like Mophie Juice Pack or a battery pack that will quick charge through the dock connector. These two can more than double the life of your iPhone's battery without having to take your phone apart. The Juice Pack, which is still smaller overall than most Android phones, can charge both batteries at once (and sync), and the dock connector batteries can be charged at the same time as your iPhone so you don't have to wake up in the middle of the night to play switch-a-roo with your S2 batteries thus letting you get a good night's sleep before that long plane flight. PS: Pro tip: Use your phone for entertainment on a long trip but plug into your notebook to quickly recharge many, many times over. Also woks with iPad.
I used to connect my iphone, too, to the laptop usb during long presentations, since the video cables had a charging extension, but then you cannot use your iphone as a presentation remote, since you are tethered to the laptop..
I personally have 4 batteries for my S2, which is enough for me to last for a couple of days trips. My S2 lasts 6 to 8 hours, or around 4 hours working it very hard. Changing a battery every 6 to 8 hours is not a pain.
It's amazing that people adore slim phones but because of the phones being prone to breaking, they buy huge protective cases that defeat the purpose. On the S2, I don't need a case, it does not break as easily as the iphone, so the battery can be changed easily without weird attachments cases that defeat the phone design.
Don't get me wrong, I like/liked all my iphones 3/3G/3GS/4 but I don't like the iphone 4s because it is a marketing/profit phone that does not add real usability value and does not address the issues that heavy iphone users have.
The phone I need and like is the phone that can do what I need to do, for work, home, etc. For the longest time, the iphone was the closest thing, but now Apple is not addressing issues and enhancing the iphone at the speed that other manufacturers are. Apple seems more concentrated in maximizing profits. Just compare the 3/3G/3GS/4 phones, there have just limited incremental enhancements. Make Apple provide a better usable/advanced phone than it's competitors and I will buy it, but for now, the iphone 4s is not the top phone, usability/practicality wise. I am older, so maybe I am not blinded by bling-bling advertising but more by usability and practicality features.. Maybe the iphone 5 will be the innovative phone, but nobody will know until they release it some time in the future.
One more thing, the iphone 4's lasts only around 2 to 3 hours of heavy use, and the iphone 4s has serious battery draining issues, and if you use the iphone 4s for heavy games, the battery will drain even faster. Those iphone 4 charts doesn't hit reality, and most likely anybody with an iphone 4 will know they are not accurate.
AC
Yes, really! How do you charge the 2nd battery? You have play musical chairs with your batteries. If you have 2 batteries and you use two a day you are then switching them back again to charge them separately which means you have to wait for hours for them to charge. That's a huge pain in the ass.
If you were smart you'd use a phone, like the iPhone, that lasts considerably longer for any heavy data usage.
Or you would buy a great accessory like Mophie Juice Pack or a battery pack that will quick charge through the dock connector. These two can more than double the life of your iPhone's battery without having to take your phone apart. The Juice Pack, which is still smaller overall than most Android phones, can charge both batteries at once (and sync), and the dock connector batteries can be charged at the same time as your iPhone so you don't have to wake up in the middle of the night to play switch-a-roo with your S2 batteries thus letting you get a good night's sleep before that long plane flight.[INDENT]
PS: Pro tip: Use your phone for entertainment on a long trip but plug into your notebook to quickly recharge many, many times over. Also woks with iPad.