Anybody ever try explaining to a iPhone-with-Windows user all the things you can do between iOS and Mac OS X.
Me: "Oh yeah, I can sync all my calendars, emails, practically everything to my iPhone with little to no effort. Mail app is like email from the gods. Also, I can do practically anything with a PDF. And the apps you can use with iCal and everything else are so incredibly useful."
iPhone-with-Windows user: "Gee that's cool. What version of Outlook do you need to do that? Have you played that game... Angry Birds. It sure is swell."
Your comment made me laugh, been there, done that! You have my sympathies.
I work for one of the largest corporations in the world. Surprisingly, they don't do anything to block access to network services, but they don't necessarily encourage other platforms either.
I work on a team of 23 people. The company provides Dell or HP laptops running XP or Vista (Windows 7 is still being 'evaluated'). These laptops would cost a normal human about $600, but for some reason my company leases them instead. We pay about $150/month (if memory serves) over the course of a two-year lease term. You do the math...
Four years ago I paid about $700 for a Mac Mini. I run Office 2011 (and previously ran 2008 and 2004) for Exchange Server connectivity. I occasionally use Word and Excel, but generally prefer Pages and Numbers. For presentations I exclusively use Keynote (PowerPoint is a festering pile of poop). I am a systems admin who supports applications running on both Unix and Windows 2008 Server machines. For Unix I use iTerm and X11, and for Windows 2008 remote server administration I use the RDP client that comes with Office.
My computer currently has a monthly ownership cost of (700/48) about $15. One-tenth that of my laptop. In the past four years I've had exactly zero minutes of unplanned downtime, while every single one of my 22 peers have had their machines out for days at a time for reimaging due to OS corruption, most of them more than once.
The downside is that the $150/month in lease charges covers hardware service. Still, since over four years the cost of ownership is $7200 vs $700, the company could replace my Mini six times over four years and still save money, not taking into account the money saved from productivity.
Executives who don't consider using Macs are simply bad at math.
Really, Please tell me where I can get a copy of SL Server to load into my VMware box and test on my HP server and violate OS X EULA?
Virtualization of Mac OS X Server has been available for years. Starting with Lion, you can now virtualize Mac OS Client. The thing is, you can only virtualize it on Mac hardware.
auxio you hit the nail on the head with your post. I completely agree, but the reality is that most IT guys inherit infrastructure. And while Apple was surviving in the 80-90s, Microsoft was raping Novell for network infrastructure dominance and established itself. I do not think Microsoft is the best, but they are so entrenched in corporate america that its a hard sell to make the conversion.
I completely understand (re: inheriting infrastructure).
My point is that IT people blame Apple for not working with Active Directory well, when I'm fairly certain that most of the problems come from the fact that Microsoft doesn't make it easy for others to work well with it (it's not in their best interest). That's why it's incumbent on those who choose network infrastructure to evaluate all of the options so that they don't get locked into a solution which doesn't scale well in the ever-changing world of technology.
Also note that Kerberos isn't just for Macs -- it's been around for ages. It came out of the MIT Project Athena in the late 1980s and has been used on a number of UNIX systems. Support for it is also included in Microsoft products. Active Directory actually uses Kerberos as well, but adds it's own proprietary extensions (making it incompatible with standard Kerberos implementations).
I'd just like to state that English isn't my native language, so if there's something unclear, let me know I'll clarify what I mean.
I am an IT too and I do have both, Mac and PCs on the network I work on.
We're running on a Windows domain environnement that use active directory. Each year since 2007, we've been testing the new Mac OS X Server version, because my boss is a total Mac fanboy. Each time, Apple FAILS. There's so much problem with their server OS, Lion isn't better. It goes from DNS issue to stupid thing like "no GUI for this option", then you have to fucking learn the UNIX commands and search on google. VPN server is also a mess.
Anyways, Server speaking, Apple is light years from Windows Server, and this is a very good point why it doesn't take more place in the enterprise market. Also, by killing it's Xserve brand, Apple clearly showed that they were a consumer compagny rather than seeking the enterprise market.
What about iOS ? Geesh, 80% of the employees here own a freaking iPhone(their personal iPhone), and they're always coming to me for help. MobileMe doesn't sync, an App is frozen, MobileMe overwrited the 5000 contacts, the calendars duplicated by MobileMe, the Wifi is dropping, bluetooth is failing, etc etc... There's so much problem with an iOS device, and it is though for a consumer level.
I've recently had to fucking configure 150 iPads for a customer of my workplace. Either you go for ThirdParty to configure your stuff, or, you use the iPhone Configuration Utility. This utility is useless, there's so much stuff that isn't in there that an IT needs. Just a basic example, you can prevent Apps installation, BUT YOU CAN'T PREVENT UNINSTALLATION. So freaking stupid.
And each single iPad had to be plugued into a fucking USB plug of a computer with iTunes, just to activate. Now as I understand, iOS5 finally resolved this last stupidity, but I'm certain I'll have new troubles with iOS 5 in the near future.. Unfortunately for me, iOS5 wasn't out when I had to configure 150 iPads...
All the Macs we have here used to be connected to the Active Directory domain (except laptops). I can't beleive how much logon issue I've seen with that setup. Sometimes the user account wouldn't even show up on the welcome screen. Performance had also taken a HUGE hit, the computers were so freaking slow. Just by removing them from the domain, everything went clean and good.
Also, Apple is not even able to make a good RAID hardware. 800$ for a PCI-Express hardware raid card, with LOTS of troubles. And since Snow Leopard, Apple doesn't licence any internet RAID card toher than theirs... it justs crap.
Here's another thing. Final Cut Pro X. Piece of shit, useless, a lot of functions are missing. Sure they added 64 bit support, GPU processing and a lot of cool stuff, but they striped the whole professional tool. Final Cut went from a Profesional grade product to a newbie product.
Same thing with Quick Time X... QuickTime 7 Pro is so much more than that piece of junk.
And lastly, Lion.... what can I say about that piece of shit. There's so much problem with that OS, it's a fucking Vista made by Apple. Never I could have though that Apple could release something like thing. Lots of problems, I mean LOTS! Samba shares don't unmount properly or won't mount, suspend mode doesn't work well, sometimes it doesn't wake the monitor, it uses more RAM, you can feel it on older laptops that still meet the recommanded requierements from Apple. Wifi issue, DHCP issue, and other basic stuff.
Another stupid thing about Lion, they set as default the new scrolling. They don't even give you a pop-up so you might say, no I prefer to use the methoed i've been using for scrolling for the past 20 years. No, they fucking overwrite it, and you have to go to uncheck a poorly spoken option that makes you beleive, that if it is checked, you use the old method. And just to make sure this wasn't just a bad French translation in the OS, I've looked in English, and it is exactly the same crap. This isn't an enterpriseissue, but it is definately a stupid issue that enrage people.
Here's another stupid thing. Each time you reboot, it ask if you wish to relaunch all active application at reboot. You need to fucking uncheck it EACH time. It doesn't remember it and set the option to default. When Lion crash, and it does happen a lot... There's fucking 10 to 15 applications launching at reboot AT THE SAME TIME. The hard drives goes to hell and the user end up waiting 10 minutes after his computer for everythign opens up.
Oh yeah, here's another thing (yet again), iMacs do not have a matte screen option since 2007. They want to push this Mac in the enterprise market, they want secretary and receptionist, or shcool to buy them, but they don't offer an anti-glare screen. I don't know about you guys, but to my knowledge, 100% of shools have luminous tube and lots of windows, and most business are the same. How can an employee really enjoy working on his/her job computer if they have to constatly to move the screen angle. At least they can brush their teeth in front of their computers..
Got the same complaint about the MacBook "Pro" 13-inches.
Anyways, out of 20 Macs, we've downgraded back to Snow Leopard 18 of them! The last two machines running Lion are laptops, and we still have problem as usual with them.
Snow Leopard is a GREAT OS, the best Apple as even made. But Lion is completly the opposite.
Just so you know, I am a Mac fan. I own 3 Mac, I've always loved OS X, but Lion is a no go for me. Apple is just dissapointing me and the enterprise market. My boss is also very frustrated by Apple, he's the real fanboy who usually will buy anything shiny Apple sells. Without even thinking if he needs it or not.
So if you're still wondering why Apple isn't gaining market shares in the enterprise market, it's simply because Apple DOESN'T take the enterprise market seriously. And frankly, lately they've been releasing butched products to their consumers.
Mac business users have been shown to be more productive than their PC counterparts, prompting Forrester Research to encourage companies to support Apple hardware in the workplace.
This would be easier if Apple offered a mid range machine that was headless.
No, that's the reason. And being afraid of the "maverick CEO" who brought a company that was 90 days from bankruptcy to the most valuable company on the planet is the stupidest thing any other company could do.
Maybe?JUST MAYBE?how Steve ran things WASN'T a fluke and other companies could take a page or two out of his book (literally, since he has a biography now) and get their crap together better through his teaching.
I agree with this. Apple is probably a textbook example of how an innovative technology corporation should be ran. I don't think its a model that will work at a lot of large institutions like HP for example because it would take getting rid of the dead weight. A lot of corporate dead weight is at the executive level. Sorry exec folks this is true. Its the fat cats that hold up innovation and change. They are hard to get rid of and enjoy the status quo. Look at Wall Street and Financial sector, big payout and gold umbrellas for the worst management you can find, a lot of these are Ivy League MBA grads too.
No, that's the reason. And being afraid of the "maverick CEO" who brought a company that was 90 days from bankruptcy to the most valuable company on the planet is the stupidest thing any other company could do.
Maybe?JUST MAYBE?how Steve ran things WASN'T a fluke and other companies could take a page or two out of his book (literally, since he has a biography now) and get their crap together better through his teaching.
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Originally Posted by MacTac
This would be easier if Apple offered a mid range machine that was headless.
Agree, initial cost of hardware are small costs compared to training and productivity. Those are ongoing.
Unfortunately, the company I work out will probably never move to Apple hardware simply because of the hardware sticker price. Computers and IT are viewed only as a necessary evil of doing business. It doesn't matter if the TCO on the Mac is 1/10th of the PC. If the Mac costs $1000 and the PC costs $800 to purchase up front, the $5000 TCO savings over 2 or 3 years is meaningless to our executives. Their response is that $1000 is more than $800 so buy the $800 system and go away.
These are the same people who will pay $500 to repair an out of warranty laptop because it's cheaper than buying a new laptop for $800 that would include a 2 or 3 year warranty. OK, that may be an exaggeration, but it sure doesn't seem far off the mark. This place buys the cheapest crap they can find and ride it till it dies. Very frustrating.
The other cool thing about Mac in corporate is that the Windows IT guys don't want to touch them hence they are not locked down like the Win machines. You add software updates and print drivers, poke around on the network and no one stops you. The Windows people are always way behind on the patches because they are waiting for IT where as on the Mac you can do it yourself.
I had to fight very, very hard to be allowed to use a Mac at work (which I paid for myself). Some people might be surprised by the amount of flat out lies our IT staff told to management in their efforts to stop me (they actually had the gall to argue that Macs were a virus threat -- and that from an IT group that still has its PCs running Windows XP).
There was no single factor that allowed me to win my fight -- it was a combination of things. But one thing that has to have helped is that the CEO and several senior VPs all have Macs at home and come to me for support. I think the anti-Mac trolls in IT are an endangered species.
That's funny... I am in IT and I can't tell you how many times I advocate Apple products to the users here and so many of them are stuck loving Windows for reason. Although, I have helped a few get their firs Macs and they love them and the ones I helped get a new PC after advocating for a Mac instead a couple of them have come back to me with PC issues and finally admitted they should have spent on a Mac instead.
It's like an old bad habit and people just don't like change.... Even my other IT counter-parts in other areas are full force Windows guys but a few them love their iPads. hehehe
Off subject, our company is now getting a bunch of people onto iPads now, I should be receiving one for doing testing and training support on. Not sure what I'll do with my personal iPad.
Let's not forget -the most valuable company in the world is almost exclusively a Mac shop.
How do you figure they release so much Windows software like iTunes. Safari, Exchange service for iOS, as well as create seamless compatibility with iWork and Office? All without a Windows machine. I think it would be safe to say the server farm is running some flavor of UNIX as well.
Really, Please tell me where I can get a copy of SL Server to load into my VMware box and test on my HP server and violate OS X EULA?
If you just need it for testing you can become an Apple Mac developer and download it from the dev site. All the previous OS versions are available there.
How do you figure they release so much Windows software like iTunes. Safari, Exchange service for iOS, as well as create seamless compatibility with iWork and Office? All without a Windows machine. I think it would be safe to say the server farm is running some flavor of UNIX as well.
Macs run Windows too...
And um Mac OS X *is* UNIX under the hood -so I agree -their server farms *are* indeed probably using UNIX.
Anyway -I certainly didn't say they are exclusively Mac -they will have to have real Windows machines to develop iTunes etc. But the percentage of Macs vs anything else is going to be through the roof high.
And all the Apple defenders who agree with those statements?
Why then, should those same Apple defenders criticize IT departments for trying to keep Macs out of their companies? Shouldn't those IT departments be commended for following Apple's vision and helping to keep Macs out of the enterprise?
Better CAC compatibility with OSX, and CAC Card slit into an iPad model will make large-corporations and the gov go on a purchasing frenzy for Apple products. It's the only serious limitation.
Are there any tablets that support it?
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Originally Posted by svnipp
Unfortunately, the company I work out will probably never move to Apple hardware simply because of the hardware sticker price. Computers and IT are viewed only as a necessary evil of doing business. It doesn't matter if the TCO on the Mac is 1/10th of the PC. If the Mac costs $1000 and the PC costs $800 to purchase up front, the $5000 TCO savings over 2 or 3 years is meaningless to our executives. Their response is that $1000 is more than $800 so buy the $800 system and go away.
These are the same people who will pay $500 to repair an out of warranty laptop because it's cheaper than buying a new laptop for $800 that would include a 2 or 3 year warranty. OK, that may be an exaggeration, but it sure doesn't seem far off the mark. This place buys the cheapest crap they can find and ride it till it dies. Very frustrating.
There's the expression, penny wise, pound foolish. One can almost excuse a consumer behaving that way, but if you're trying to outfit a business, going the lowest dollar is just going to cause problems.
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Yes, OS X Server comes with Netboot/NetInstall that allows imaging. However I find that DeployStudio can be a bit more fine tuned.
Anybody ever try explaining to a iPhone-with-Windows user all the things you can do between iOS and Mac OS X.
Me: "Oh yeah, I can sync all my calendars, emails, practically everything to my iPhone with little to no effort. Mail app is like email from the gods. Also, I can do practically anything with a PDF. And the apps you can use with iCal and everything else are so incredibly useful."
iPhone-with-Windows user: "Gee that's cool. What version of Outlook do you need to do that? Have you played that game... Angry Birds. It sure is swell."
Your comment made me laugh, been there, done that! You have my sympathies.
I work on a team of 23 people. The company provides Dell or HP laptops running XP or Vista (Windows 7 is still being 'evaluated'). These laptops would cost a normal human about $600, but for some reason my company leases them instead. We pay about $150/month (if memory serves) over the course of a two-year lease term. You do the math...
Four years ago I paid about $700 for a Mac Mini. I run Office 2011 (and previously ran 2008 and 2004) for Exchange Server connectivity. I occasionally use Word and Excel, but generally prefer Pages and Numbers. For presentations I exclusively use Keynote (PowerPoint is a festering pile of poop). I am a systems admin who supports applications running on both Unix and Windows 2008 Server machines. For Unix I use iTerm and X11, and for Windows 2008 remote server administration I use the RDP client that comes with Office.
My computer currently has a monthly ownership cost of (700/48) about $15. One-tenth that of my laptop. In the past four years I've had exactly zero minutes of unplanned downtime, while every single one of my 22 peers have had their machines out for days at a time for reimaging due to OS corruption, most of them more than once.
The downside is that the $150/month in lease charges covers hardware service. Still, since over four years the cost of ownership is $7200 vs $700, the company could replace my Mini six times over four years and still save money, not taking into account the money saved from productivity.
Executives who don't consider using Macs are simply bad at math.
Really, Please tell me where I can get a copy of SL Server to load into my VMware box and test on my HP server and violate OS X EULA?
Virtualization of Mac OS X Server has been available for years. Starting with Lion, you can now virtualize Mac OS Client. The thing is, you can only virtualize it on Mac hardware.
auxio you hit the nail on the head with your post. I completely agree, but the reality is that most IT guys inherit infrastructure. And while Apple was surviving in the 80-90s, Microsoft was raping Novell for network infrastructure dominance and established itself. I do not think Microsoft is the best, but they are so entrenched in corporate america that its a hard sell to make the conversion.
I completely understand (re: inheriting infrastructure).
My point is that IT people blame Apple for not working with Active Directory well, when I'm fairly certain that most of the problems come from the fact that Microsoft doesn't make it easy for others to work well with it (it's not in their best interest). That's why it's incumbent on those who choose network infrastructure to evaluate all of the options so that they don't get locked into a solution which doesn't scale well in the ever-changing world of technology.
Also note that Kerberos isn't just for Macs -- it's been around for ages. It came out of the MIT Project Athena in the late 1980s and has been used on a number of UNIX systems. Support for it is also included in Microsoft products. Active Directory actually uses Kerberos as well, but adds it's own proprietary extensions (making it incompatible with standard Kerberos implementations).
I am an IT too and I do have both, Mac and PCs on the network I work on.
We're running on a Windows domain environnement that use active directory. Each year since 2007, we've been testing the new Mac OS X Server version, because my boss is a total Mac fanboy. Each time, Apple FAILS. There's so much problem with their server OS, Lion isn't better. It goes from DNS issue to stupid thing like "no GUI for this option", then you have to fucking learn the UNIX commands and search on google. VPN server is also a mess.
Anyways, Server speaking, Apple is light years from Windows Server, and this is a very good point why it doesn't take more place in the enterprise market. Also, by killing it's Xserve brand, Apple clearly showed that they were a consumer compagny rather than seeking the enterprise market.
What about iOS ? Geesh, 80% of the employees here own a freaking iPhone(their personal iPhone), and they're always coming to me for help. MobileMe doesn't sync, an App is frozen, MobileMe overwrited the 5000 contacts, the calendars duplicated by MobileMe, the Wifi is dropping, bluetooth is failing, etc etc... There's so much problem with an iOS device, and it is though for a consumer level.
I've recently had to fucking configure 150 iPads for a customer of my workplace. Either you go for ThirdParty to configure your stuff, or, you use the iPhone Configuration Utility. This utility is useless, there's so much stuff that isn't in there that an IT needs. Just a basic example, you can prevent Apps installation, BUT YOU CAN'T PREVENT UNINSTALLATION. So freaking stupid.
And each single iPad had to be plugued into a fucking USB plug of a computer with iTunes, just to activate. Now as I understand, iOS5 finally resolved this last stupidity, but I'm certain I'll have new troubles with iOS 5 in the near future.. Unfortunately for me, iOS5 wasn't out when I had to configure 150 iPads...
All the Macs we have here used to be connected to the Active Directory domain (except laptops). I can't beleive how much logon issue I've seen with that setup. Sometimes the user account wouldn't even show up on the welcome screen. Performance had also taken a HUGE hit, the computers were so freaking slow. Just by removing them from the domain, everything went clean and good.
Also, Apple is not even able to make a good RAID hardware. 800$ for a PCI-Express hardware raid card, with LOTS of troubles. And since Snow Leopard, Apple doesn't licence any internet RAID card toher than theirs... it justs crap.
Here's another thing. Final Cut Pro X. Piece of shit, useless, a lot of functions are missing. Sure they added 64 bit support, GPU processing and a lot of cool stuff, but they striped the whole professional tool. Final Cut went from a Profesional grade product to a newbie product.
Same thing with Quick Time X... QuickTime 7 Pro is so much more than that piece of junk.
And lastly, Lion.... what can I say about that piece of shit. There's so much problem with that OS, it's a fucking Vista made by Apple. Never I could have though that Apple could release something like thing. Lots of problems, I mean LOTS! Samba shares don't unmount properly or won't mount, suspend mode doesn't work well, sometimes it doesn't wake the monitor, it uses more RAM, you can feel it on older laptops that still meet the recommanded requierements from Apple. Wifi issue, DHCP issue, and other basic stuff.
Another stupid thing about Lion, they set as default the new scrolling. They don't even give you a pop-up so you might say, no I prefer to use the methoed i've been using for scrolling for the past 20 years. No, they fucking overwrite it, and you have to go to uncheck a poorly spoken option that makes you beleive, that if it is checked, you use the old method. And just to make sure this wasn't just a bad French translation in the OS, I've looked in English, and it is exactly the same crap. This isn't an enterpriseissue, but it is definately a stupid issue that enrage people.
Here's another stupid thing. Each time you reboot, it ask if you wish to relaunch all active application at reboot. You need to fucking uncheck it EACH time. It doesn't remember it and set the option to default. When Lion crash, and it does happen a lot... There's fucking 10 to 15 applications launching at reboot AT THE SAME TIME. The hard drives goes to hell and the user end up waiting 10 minutes after his computer for everythign opens up.
Oh yeah, here's another thing (yet again), iMacs do not have a matte screen option since 2007. They want to push this Mac in the enterprise market, they want secretary and receptionist, or shcool to buy them, but they don't offer an anti-glare screen. I don't know about you guys, but to my knowledge, 100% of shools have luminous tube and lots of windows, and most business are the same. How can an employee really enjoy working on his/her job computer if they have to constatly to move the screen angle. At least they can brush their teeth in front of their computers..
Got the same complaint about the MacBook "Pro" 13-inches.
Anyways, out of 20 Macs, we've downgraded back to Snow Leopard 18 of them! The last two machines running Lion are laptops, and we still have problem as usual with them.
Snow Leopard is a GREAT OS, the best Apple as even made. But Lion is completly the opposite.
Just so you know, I am a Mac fan. I own 3 Mac, I've always loved OS X, but Lion is a no go for me. Apple is just dissapointing me and the enterprise market. My boss is also very frustrated by Apple, he's the real fanboy who usually will buy anything shiny Apple sells. Without even thinking if he needs it or not.
So if you're still wondering why Apple isn't gaining market shares in the enterprise market, it's simply because Apple DOESN'T take the enterprise market seriously. And frankly, lately they've been releasing butched products to their consumers.
Mac business users have been shown to be more productive than their PC counterparts, prompting Forrester Research to encourage companies to support Apple hardware in the workplace.
This would be easier if Apple offered a mid range machine that was headless.
No, that's the reason. And being afraid of the "maverick CEO" who brought a company that was 90 days from bankruptcy to the most valuable company on the planet is the stupidest thing any other company could do.
Maybe?JUST MAYBE?how Steve ran things WASN'T a fluke and other companies could take a page or two out of his book (literally, since he has a biography now) and get their crap together better through his teaching.
I agree with this. Apple is probably a textbook example of how an innovative technology corporation should be ran. I don't think its a model that will work at a lot of large institutions like HP for example because it would take getting rid of the dead weight. A lot of corporate dead weight is at the executive level. Sorry exec folks this is true. Its the fat cats that hold up innovation and change. They are hard to get rid of and enjoy the status quo. Look at Wall Street and Financial sector, big payout and gold umbrellas for the worst management you can find, a lot of these are Ivy League MBA grads too.
No, that's the reason. And being afraid of the "maverick CEO" who brought a company that was 90 days from bankruptcy to the most valuable company on the planet is the stupidest thing any other company could do.
Maybe?JUST MAYBE?how Steve ran things WASN'T a fluke and other companies could take a page or two out of his book (literally, since he has a biography now) and get their crap together better through his teaching.
This would be easier if Apple offered a mid range machine that was headless.
Agree, initial cost of hardware are small costs compared to training and productivity. Those are ongoing.
These are the same people who will pay $500 to repair an out of warranty laptop because it's cheaper than buying a new laptop for $800 that would include a 2 or 3 year warranty. OK, that may be an exaggeration, but it sure doesn't seem far off the mark. This place buys the cheapest crap they can find and ride it till it dies. Very frustrating.
Agree, initial cost of hardware are small costs compared to training and productivity. Those are ongoing.
Not true. Apple uses technology as they see fit so Solaris, Red Hat and in the past Windows and AIX were used.
I love reading this.
I had to fight very, very hard to be allowed to use a Mac at work (which I paid for myself). Some people might be surprised by the amount of flat out lies our IT staff told to management in their efforts to stop me (they actually had the gall to argue that Macs were a virus threat -- and that from an IT group that still has its PCs running Windows XP).
There was no single factor that allowed me to win my fight -- it was a combination of things. But one thing that has to have helped is that the CEO and several senior VPs all have Macs at home and come to me for support. I think the anti-Mac trolls in IT are an endangered species.
That's funny... I am in IT and I can't tell you how many times I advocate Apple products to the users here and so many of them are stuck loving Windows for reason. Although, I have helped a few get their firs Macs and they love them and the ones I helped get a new PC after advocating for a Mac instead a couple of them have come back to me with PC issues and finally admitted they should have spent on a Mac instead.
It's like an old bad habit and people just don't like change.... Even my other IT counter-parts in other areas are full force Windows guys but a few them love their iPads. hehehe
Off subject, our company is now getting a bunch of people onto iPads now, I should be receiving one for doing testing and training support on. Not sure what I'll do with my personal iPad.
That's true, but try fitting it into a rack.
Indeed. Only time will tell whether the next hardware update will alleviate that.
Really, Please tell me where I can get a copy of SL Server to load into my VMware box and test on my HP server and violate OS X EULA?
Uh, anywhere that still sells them? It's part of the Server EULA. It's completely allowed by Apple. JUST for Server, though. Not client.
Let's not forget -the most valuable company in the world is almost exclusively a Mac shop.
How do you figure they release so much Windows software like iTunes. Safari, Exchange service for iOS, as well as create seamless compatibility with iWork and Office? All without a Windows machine. I think it would be safe to say the server farm is running some flavor of UNIX as well.
Really, Please tell me where I can get a copy of SL Server to load into my VMware box and test on my HP server and violate OS X EULA?
If you just need it for testing you can become an Apple Mac developer and download it from the dev site. All the previous OS versions are available there.
How do you figure they release so much Windows software like iTunes. Safari, Exchange service for iOS, as well as create seamless compatibility with iWork and Office? All without a Windows machine. I think it would be safe to say the server farm is running some flavor of UNIX as well.
Macs run Windows too...
And um Mac OS X *is* UNIX under the hood -so I agree -their server farms *are* indeed probably using UNIX.
Anyway -I certainly didn't say they are exclusively Mac -they will have to have real Windows machines to develop iTunes etc. But the percentage of Macs vs anything else is going to be through the roof high.
"Apple doesn't care about enterprise"
"Apple doesn't need enterprise"
"Apple should avoid enterprise"
And all the Apple defenders who agree with those statements?
Why then, should those same Apple defenders criticize IT departments for trying to keep Macs out of their companies? Shouldn't those IT departments be commended for following Apple's vision and helping to keep Macs out of the enterprise?
Better CAC compatibility with OSX, and CAC Card slit into an iPad model will make large-corporations and the gov go on a purchasing frenzy for Apple products. It's the only serious limitation.
Are there any tablets that support it?
Unfortunately, the company I work out will probably never move to Apple hardware simply because of the hardware sticker price. Computers and IT are viewed only as a necessary evil of doing business. It doesn't matter if the TCO on the Mac is 1/10th of the PC. If the Mac costs $1000 and the PC costs $800 to purchase up front, the $5000 TCO savings over 2 or 3 years is meaningless to our executives. Their response is that $1000 is more than $800 so buy the $800 system and go away.
These are the same people who will pay $500 to repair an out of warranty laptop because it's cheaper than buying a new laptop for $800 that would include a 2 or 3 year warranty. OK, that may be an exaggeration, but it sure doesn't seem far off the mark. This place buys the cheapest crap they can find and ride it till it dies. Very frustrating.
There's the expression, penny wise, pound foolish. One can almost excuse a consumer behaving that way, but if you're trying to outfit a business, going the lowest dollar is just going to cause problems.