So, here's a question? why would I possibly want this?
I consider my TV to be nothing other than a large monitor. I get inputs from a cable box, PS3 and an Apple TV. I can add new inputs, or remove old ones.
So why would I want to buy a new TV when all the inputs are the same? I seriously doubt Apple can make a display that's "better enough" to make me replace my existing one.
For that matter, what it is the Apple TV doesn't have now? Live channels, and *all* content. That's it.
Those two issues have nothing to do with hardware and everything to do with licensing. If Apple signed deals with every major player to stream to you, it could be in my Apple TV the next day with a software update.
So why would I buy a new TV to get *that*? Well, I wouldn't.
Simply put, I don't believe this rumour for a second.
In case you didn't notice the Apple TV you have does not support voice recognition.
I've tried talking to my Xbox with Kinect, and it's inability to recognise pretty much anything makes it 100% useless. I've also played around with Siri on my wife's iPhone 4S and the results are.... to be frank, garbage.
Perhaps it's because we're English and not American, but it's accuracy was only around 50%. it produced amusing results, but it's really limited to toy value for now. The thought of trying to control a TV solely using voice commands is not in the least bit appealing. I think I'll stick with my TiVo.
Siri does not handle background noises very well, so I would be very surprised to see a Siri-powered television. I can see it now -- Siri responding to televlsion shows and commercials.
TV commercial: "Try the new banana scented Oxyclean! Buy two and get one free within the next ten minutes!"
Siri: "I don't understand 'oxygen clean'. Should I search for this in a web browser?"
Well, hopefully they would improve Siri by the time the new Apple TV came out. Also it might have something to do with the 4S microphone, possibly a better microphone would fix it.
Your TV commercial example is easily fixed by making the handheld microphone push-to-talk.
Well, hopefully they would improve Siri by the time the new Apple TV came out. Also it might have something to do with the 4S microphone, possibly a better microphone would fix it.
Your TV commercial example is easily fixed by making the handheld microphone push-to-talk.
I'd agree with this approach, too. The primary mic is on the hand remote, when you activate it it might reduce the background volume too, in the process.
"You don't have a copy of that, shall I purchase from iTunes?"
"Yes"
"Downloading. Ready to watch."
All you need is handheld microphone, and some filtration that blocks out background noise.
"Siri, tell me when House is on"
"When the House is on what? On fire? Is there a switch to turn the house on and off?"
"Never mind, Siri, I'll use the remote."
"I like the way you touch the remote."
"Siri, this has to stop. I'm calling Apple."
"Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer, do. I'm half crazy, all for the love of you. It won't be a stylish marriage. I can't afford a carriage. But you'll look sweet upon the seat of a bicycle built for two ?"
Simply put, I don't believe this rumour for a second.
I believe the rumor, that Apple is working on their own TV. But I have doubts if it will be successful. I even have doubts that such a device would see the light of day. Steve would push it out the door against any doubts by other Apple employees. But would any voices of concern now have a greater say in the release of such a product now that Steve is gone?
The bigger question in my mind, is if the Apple HDTV doesn't pan out, do that have another "next great thing" in the pipeline?
To all the people who have come up with reasons why this will not work. Do you really think you are smarter than Steve Jobs was, and he never considered all of these technical issues?
Rendering it completely pointless, as anything you're holding would be better served as a remote.
Agreed. For general searching, voice could be useful so you don't have to type in your search conditions. But for all other functions, I think I'd be able to navigate using a remote much more efficiently. If I want to browse what's currently playing on my cable, I can push a single button on the remote and see the grid much faster than saying, "Siri, display the current cable lineup" and waiting for my request to be translated and understood.
If Apple can get the providers to agree to content deals that would let me get rid of cable, that would be something. But I don't see them agreeing to that without also giving other's the same (or better) deals (think Amazon, Netflix, etc). And those other's would likely have a much better proposition than buying a new, high-margin, Apple-branded TV.
My optic nerves are in danger of severing from the amount of times I've had to roll my eyes at this nonsense.
Send your address and $9.95 for shipping and handling to receive your FREE WHITE CANE! If you respond within the next 15 minutes I'll DOUBLE THE OFFER. Just pay additional shipping and handling.
To all the people who have come up with reasons why this will not work. Do you really think you are smarter than Steve Jobs was, and he never considered all of these technical issues?
Really!
To the people who think this product actually exists and that we know absolutely anything about any feature set beyond what random analysts are spewing just to be paid ludicrous amounts of money:
REALLY?! Really really? How can you POSSIBLY defend a product that doesn't exist? Until someone on stage cranks up the Billy Mays and tells a Siri-enabled Apple TV (no HDTV) to turn the volume down and it actually works, it's up in the air.
And until you can explain to me why I'm supposed to hold a microphone to use a hands-free means of interaction with my devices when a normal touchscreen remote would do perfectly well OR BETTER than that, I'll continue to have doubts that Siri for televisions is the right way to go.
Interesting if true as Apple never leaked a new product and such details this early before. Why give Google, Microsoft and Samsung that much lead time to copy?
So, here's a question? why would I possibly want this?
I consider my TV to be nothing other than a large monitor. I get inputs from a cable box, PS3 and an Apple TV. I can add new inputs, or remove old ones.
So why would I want to buy a new TV when all the inputs are the same? I seriously doubt Apple can make a display that's "better enough" to make me replace my existing one.
For that matter, what it is the Apple TV doesn't have now? Live channels, and *all* content. That's it.
Those two issues have nothing to do with hardware and everything to do with licensing. If Apple signed deals with every major player to stream to you, it could be in my Apple TV the next day with a software update.
So why would I buy a new TV to get *that*? Well, I wouldn't.
Simply put, I don't believe this rumor for a second.
Sooner or later you will have to buy a new TV. When you do, a Siri driven Apple TV will have evolved to be the best of the Smart TV category, just like the iPhone is now the leader of Smartphone category. I bet you'll buy an Apple TV.
And so will a whole lot of people over the lifespan of the Smart TV category.
I think the potential goes far beyond simply talking to your TV. This could be the impetus for much better home integration with the TV becoming a type of hub. Tie in some X10 type tech that work with the Siri interface and iOS could change a lot of how we run our homes.
Yes, you get it.
"Keep the house at 68 degrees until 6 am. Then take it to 70."
"Lock all doors"
In addition I see the content delivery changing. Siri is a feature, it doesn't reshape how we get our content. For that Apple will need to get deals with content providers. That's the hang up.
So, here's a question? why would I possibly want this?
I consider my TV to be nothing other than a large monitor. I get inputs from a cable box, PS3 and an Apple TV. I can add new inputs, or remove old ones.
Simply put, I don't believe this rumour for a second.
Folks, I've written about my professional musician wife before. This pretty much really happened:
Wife: I just bought Netflix.
Me: Oh. (Thinking: Don't we have cable?)
Wife: Yes, now I can watch movies on my MacBook and iMac.
Me: Ok.
...Time Passes...
Wife: Can we hook this to the TV in the bedroom? (Nice little 32" flatscreen.)
Me: Yes. (Off to Apple store to buy adapter to hook to PC input on TV.)
Wife: Cool. But what are all those cables going to the TV?
Me: Well, we need those to get the signal to the TV from the MacBookPro.
...Time Passes...
Me: Dear, did you say that was Netflix? (Yep. I listen really well...)
Wife: Yes.
Me: Uh, the AppleTV in the living room can receive Netflix.
Wife: Well, bring it in here.
Me: (Being an engineer I start to get wires and power cables to run it all nice an neat behind the entertainment center.)
Wife: Can you hurry?
Me: I am hurrying.
Wife: Just grabs the whole mess and sets the AppleTV cables and all on the side of the entertainment center.)
Me: (That's really ugly.)
Wife: Now, make it work.
Me: (I hand her the TV remote and Apple Remote.) Push the HDMI button and then press the big silver button on the Apple Remote.
Wife: Cooool!
Me: Now, use the round iPod thingie and move to Internet and push the silver thingie.
Wife: Cooool! There's Netflix.
Me: Leave on business trip. Get Call...
Wife: I can't get this to work.
Me: Push HDMI. Push silver thingie. Go to Internet. Select Netflix.
Wife: Cooool!
Folks, if you're a TV manufacturer, a content creator, or a content deliverer and this isn't your business plan, or a logical extension of this business plan, you're dead meat.
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So, here's a question? why would I possibly want this?
I consider my TV to be nothing other than a large monitor. I get inputs from a cable box, PS3 and an Apple TV. I can add new inputs, or remove old ones.
So why would I want to buy a new TV when all the inputs are the same? I seriously doubt Apple can make a display that's "better enough" to make me replace my existing one.
For that matter, what it is the Apple TV doesn't have now? Live channels, and *all* content. That's it.
Those two issues have nothing to do with hardware and everything to do with licensing. If Apple signed deals with every major player to stream to you, it could be in my Apple TV the next day with a software update.
So why would I buy a new TV to get *that*? Well, I wouldn't.
Simply put, I don't believe this rumour for a second.
In case you didn't notice the Apple TV you have does not support voice recognition.
I've tried talking to my Xbox with Kinect, and it's inability to recognise pretty much anything makes it 100% useless. I've also played around with Siri on my wife's iPhone 4S and the results are.... to be frank, garbage.
Perhaps it's because we're English and not American, but it's accuracy was only around 50%. it produced amusing results, but it's really limited to toy value for now. The thought of trying to control a TV solely using voice commands is not in the least bit appealing. I think I'll stick with my TiVo.
That is why Siri is still in beta!
Siri does not handle background noises very well, so I would be very surprised to see a Siri-powered television. I can see it now -- Siri responding to televlsion shows and commercials.
TV commercial: "Try the new banana scented Oxyclean! Buy two and get one free within the next ten minutes!"
Siri: "I don't understand 'oxygen clean'. Should I search for this in a web browser?"
Well, hopefully they would improve Siri by the time the new Apple TV came out. Also it might have something to do with the 4S microphone, possibly a better microphone would fix it.
Your TV commercial example is easily fixed by making the handheld microphone push-to-talk.
Well, hopefully they would improve Siri by the time the new Apple TV came out. Also it might have something to do with the 4S microphone, possibly a better microphone would fix it.
Your TV commercial example is easily fixed by making the handheld microphone push-to-talk.
I'd agree with this approach, too. The primary mic is on the hand remote, when you activate it it might reduce the background volume too, in the process.
All you need is handheld microphone, and some filtration that blocks out background noise.
Rendering it completely pointless, as anything you're holding would be better served as a remote.
This could be interesting.
"Siri, tell me when House is on"
"Here are the next times for House..."
"DVR House at 4 PM."
"Recording set."
"Watch House season 3 episode 2."
"You don't have a copy of that, shall I purchase from iTunes?"
"Yes"
"Downloading. Ready to watch."
All you need is handheld microphone, and some filtration that blocks out background noise.
"Siri, tell me when House is on"
"When the House is on what? On fire? Is there a switch to turn the house on and off?"
"Never mind, Siri, I'll use the remote."
"I like the way you touch the remote."
"Siri, this has to stop. I'm calling Apple."
"Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer, do. I'm half crazy, all for the love of you. It won't be a stylish marriage. I can't afford a carriage. But you'll look sweet upon the seat of a bicycle built for two ?"
Simply put, I don't believe this rumour for a second.
I believe the rumor, that Apple is working on their own TV. But I have doubts if it will be successful. I even have doubts that such a device would see the light of day. Steve would push it out the door against any doubts by other Apple employees. But would any voices of concern now have a greater say in the release of such a product now that Steve is gone?
The bigger question in my mind, is if the Apple HDTV doesn't pan out, do that have another "next great thing" in the pipeline?
Really!
Rendering it completely pointless, as anything you're holding would be better served as a remote.
Agreed. For general searching, voice could be useful so you don't have to type in your search conditions. But for all other functions, I think I'd be able to navigate using a remote much more efficiently. If I want to browse what's currently playing on my cable, I can push a single button on the remote and see the grid much faster than saying, "Siri, display the current cable lineup" and waiting for my request to be translated and understood.
If Apple can get the providers to agree to content deals that would let me get rid of cable, that would be something. But I don't see them agreeing to that without also giving other's the same (or better) deals (think Amazon, Netflix, etc). And those other's would likely have a much better proposition than buying a new, high-margin, Apple-branded TV.
My optic nerves are in danger of severing from the amount of times I've had to roll my eyes at this nonsense.
Send your address and $9.95 for shipping and handling to receive your FREE WHITE CANE! If you respond within the next 15 minutes I'll DOUBLE THE OFFER. Just pay additional shipping and handling.
To all the people who have come up with reasons why this will not work. Do you really think you are smarter than Steve Jobs was, and he never considered all of these technical issues?
Really!
To the people who think this product actually exists and that we know absolutely anything about any feature set beyond what random analysts are spewing just to be paid ludicrous amounts of money:
REALLY?! Really really? How can you POSSIBLY defend a product that doesn't exist? Until someone on stage cranks up the Billy Mays and tells a Siri-enabled Apple TV (no HDTV) to turn the volume down and it actually works, it's up in the air.
And until you can explain to me why I'm supposed to hold a microphone to use a hands-free means of interaction with my devices when a normal touchscreen remote would do perfectly well OR BETTER than that, I'll continue to have doubts that Siri for televisions is the right way to go.
So, here's a question? why would I possibly want this?
I consider my TV to be nothing other than a large monitor. I get inputs from a cable box, PS3 and an Apple TV. I can add new inputs, or remove old ones.
So why would I want to buy a new TV when all the inputs are the same? I seriously doubt Apple can make a display that's "better enough" to make me replace my existing one.
For that matter, what it is the Apple TV doesn't have now? Live channels, and *all* content. That's it.
Those two issues have nothing to do with hardware and everything to do with licensing. If Apple signed deals with every major player to stream to you, it could be in my Apple TV the next day with a software update.
So why would I buy a new TV to get *that*? Well, I wouldn't.
Simply put, I don't believe this rumor for a second.
Sooner or later you will have to buy a new TV. When you do, a Siri driven Apple TV will have evolved to be the best of the Smart TV category, just like the iPhone is now the leader of Smartphone category. I bet you'll buy an Apple TV.
And so will a whole lot of people over the lifespan of the Smart TV category.
Apple is going to sell billions of these.
Panasonic.
I approve this message. If it happened to be inside the next plasma I was gonna buy anyway I would be happy to give it a try.
This could be interesting.
"Siri, tell me when House is on"
"Here are the next times for House..."
"DVR House at 4 PM."
"Recording set."
"Watch House season 3 episode 2."
"You don't have a copy of that, shall I purchase from iTunes?"
"Yes"
"Downloading. Ready to watch."
All you need is handheld microphone, and some filtration that blocks out background noise.
No microhone, Siri will learn to filter out home background noise.
Great software makes great hardware.
I think the potential goes far beyond simply talking to your TV. This could be the impetus for much better home integration with the TV becoming a type of hub. Tie in some X10 type tech that work with the Siri interface and iOS could change a lot of how we run our homes.
Yes, you get it.
"Keep the house at 68 degrees until 6 am. Then take it to 70."
"Lock all doors"
In addition I see the content delivery changing. Siri is a feature, it doesn't reshape how we get our content. For that Apple will need to get deals with content providers. That's the hang up.
iTunes will still reign, content not a problem.
iTunes will still reign, content not a problem.
King of Beige doesn't know content is King?
So, here's a question? why would I possibly want this?
I consider my TV to be nothing other than a large monitor. I get inputs from a cable box, PS3 and an Apple TV. I can add new inputs, or remove old ones.
Simply put, I don't believe this rumour for a second.
Folks, I've written about my professional musician wife before. This pretty much really happened:
Wife: I just bought Netflix.
Me: Oh. (Thinking: Don't we have cable?)
Wife: Yes, now I can watch movies on my MacBook and iMac.
Me: Ok.
...Time Passes...
Wife: Can we hook this to the TV in the bedroom? (Nice little 32" flatscreen.)
Me: Yes. (Off to Apple store to buy adapter to hook to PC input on TV.)
Wife: Cool. But what are all those cables going to the TV?
Me: Well, we need those to get the signal to the TV from the MacBookPro.
...Time Passes...
Me: Dear, did you say that was Netflix? (Yep. I listen really well...)
Wife: Yes.
Me: Uh, the AppleTV in the living room can receive Netflix.
Wife: Well, bring it in here.
Me: (Being an engineer I start to get wires and power cables to run it all nice an neat behind the entertainment center.)
Wife: Can you hurry?
Me: I am hurrying.
Wife: Just grabs the whole mess and sets the AppleTV cables and all on the side of the entertainment center.)
Me: (That's really ugly.)
Wife: Now, make it work.
Me: (I hand her the TV remote and Apple Remote.) Push the HDMI button and then press the big silver button on the Apple Remote.
Wife: Cooool!
Me: Now, use the round iPod thingie and move to Internet and push the silver thingie.
Wife: Cooool! There's Netflix.
Me: Leave on business trip. Get Call...
Wife: I can't get this to work.
Me: Push HDMI. Push silver thingie. Go to Internet. Select Netflix.
Wife: Cooool!
Folks, if you're a TV manufacturer, a content creator, or a content deliverer and this isn't your business plan, or a logical extension of this business plan, you're dead meat.
I have seen the future. It is Cooool!