Surprising that "management" was so out of touch with the product that they would publicly state it would be released in October. maybe it is vaporware.
Unless "u" "r" a Windows user, in which case we'll indulge "u".....
Utter rubbish. It's simple accident (laziness, lack of innovation) that the Microsoft codebase has barely changed in over ten years. Not a business decision by apple. You want modern tech, get modern tech. Otherwise, stick with outdated hardware and software and deal with being left behind.
Surprising that "management" was so out of touch with the product that they would publicly state it would be released in October. maybe it is vaporware.
$25 each and every year. I might consider paying it once, but not every year. I've already paid good money for Audio-CDs which I've ripped to iTunes. I'm not going to continually pay again every single year. This $25 yearly fee is for those folks that stole their music. Honest purchasers of CD's are being punished. I think I'll just avoid iTunes Match.
Sorry for whining.
Yeah. $2.08 a month is just crazy expensive. I could be using that money to buy 2 songs.
$25 each and every year. I might consider paying it once, but not every year. I've already paid good money for Audio-CDs which I've ripped to iTunes. I'm not going to continually pay again every single year. This $25 yearly fee is for those folks that stole their music. Honest purchasers of CD's are being punished. I think I'll just avoid iTunes Match.
Sorry for whining.
$25 a year to have access to my entire music collection, on multiple devices, anywhere I go with a touch?
Utter rubbish. It's simple accident (laziness, lack of innovation) that the Microsoft codebase has barely changed in over ten years. Not a business decision by apple. You want modern tech, get modern tech. Otherwise, stick with outdated hardware and software and deal with being left behind.
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Originally Posted by hill60
Like the enterprise buyers who can still buy systems with XP installed.
There are more XP systems than Macs, there are more Macs than there are Macs running Leopard.
It's a numbers game and you lose.
Of course it is a numbers game! Duh. And, given unquestioning people like you both, Apple has no trouble casting aside its older loyal customers, thereby exacerbating this numbers game!
It truly is insane for people who've bought their own music, either through iTunes or ripped from CDs, to pay yearly to listen to it. This is also why I simply laughed at Microsoft's Zune plans. What were they, $15 a MONTH for an all-you-can-hear buffet of music you don't actually own, and if you stop paying monthly you lost access to it?
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Your not paying for the music, you're paying for the service of being able to listen to any of your music on any device, at any time without sacrificing the limited storage space of your mobile devices. It's not "insane" it's 'convenience'.
You're not being forced to pay for it. It's an option. If you don't pay the yearly service fee, you don't lose your music, you lose the ability to play it on any device (without syncing it ahead of time.) Completely different that the Zune subscription model.
Your not paying for the music, you're paying for the service of being able to listen to any of your music on any device, at any time without sacrificing the limited storage space of your mobile devices. It's not "insane" it's 'convenience'.
You're not being forced to pay for it. It's an option. If you don't pay the yearly service fee, you don't lose your music, you lose the ability to play it on any device (without syncing it ahead of time.) Completely different that the Zune subscription model.
You're right; thanks for pointing out the discrepancies.
Still, I find it silly to pay for something I already own, regardless of what I'm saving to do it.
You're right; thanks for pointing out the discrepancies.
Still, I find it silly to pay for something I already own, regardless of what I'm saving to do it.
I think it's crazy too... that is until a few days ago after I purchased my first iPhone, 64GB version. I want to store a large music collection, photos, etc on the phone. Now I'm thinking about how often people upgrade their phones and I might have taken the more expensive route. It's $200 more than the base 16gb model -- that's 8 years of music match! And, I'm sure I'll upgrade before then.
You're right; thanks for pointing out the discrepancies.
Still, I find it silly to pay for something I already own, regardless of what I'm saving to do it.
I own a telephone. My wife owns a telephone. We pay for the service that connects the two. Oh, and that's only when we have a cellular connection available.
You own your music. You own your iPhone. You pay for the service that connects the two.
$25 a year to have access to my entire music collection, on multiple devices, anywhere I go with a touch?
Bargain. I can't wait.
^This^
And who cares if it's only when I have a wireless data connection. I have a wireless data connection 99% of the time. And for the rest, I can keep a small selection of music on my devices at all times.
I can't wait to give Apple my $25 a year for this privilege.
Management announced today that Thanksgiving will be celebrated in November. It is currently in its third round of Beta testing. Beta testers have been asked to log off so that management can erase their calendars in preparation for the immanent announcement of the final date.
$25 each and every year. I might consider paying it once, but not every year. I've already paid good money for Audio-CDs which I've ripped to iTunes. I'm not going to continually pay again every single year. This $25 yearly fee is for those folks that stole their music. Honest purchasers of CD's are being punished. I think I'll just avoid iTunes Match.
Sorry for whining.
I thought I heard that the resulting files are going to be DRM-free? So couldn't you just buy iTunes Match for the first year, and then not renew it the next year? You'd still have the DRM-free files downloaded onto your computer, wouldn't you?
Can you actually play music FROM Match/Cloud or do you have to download the file to your device first? I'm assuming it's like photo streaming where you can view (listen to) the file as well as choose to download it it to your device. So Photo Streaming = Match for music? Viewing an image file is a lot different than streaming/listening to a music file so I wonder if it will be skippy/glitchy.
Of course it is a numbers game! Duh. And, given unquestioning people like you both, Apple has no trouble casting aside its older loyal customers, thereby exacerbating this numbers game!
Gotta love it.
(Oh, before you reply, read my original post).
I read your original post.
I repeat.
If you want the latest tech, get the latest tech. Otherwise, get left behind. That's the nature of electronics.
Just because the windows codebase hasn't moved on and just happens to support features back over more versions that Mac OS is not some business decision on Apple's part. If you haven't upgraded, then you don't get new features on your mac. Standard principle for business growth - economics 101, with no reason to upgrade, people stop buying. Company dies.
The original launch date was announced by management publicly on October 4th 2011 at which time they said it would be launched in October 2011.
Guess their calendar was broken.
Why would management put themselves in that position unless they were sure it would happen?
Better to be late than to launch something that doesn't work. Isn't that what these boards constantly do in some bizarre scizophrenic cross demands. Release the software yesterday - but it has to be perfect, while at the same time criticising apple for not taking their time and doing things right.
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Unless "u" "r" a Windows user, in which case we'll indulge "u".....
Utter rubbish. It's simple accident (laziness, lack of innovation) that the Microsoft codebase has barely changed in over ten years. Not a business decision by apple. You want modern tech, get modern tech. Otherwise, stick with outdated hardware and software and deal with being left behind.
Surprising that "management" was so out of touch with the product that they would publicly state it would be released in October. maybe it is vaporware.
When was a launch date announced for imatch?
Unless "u" "r" a Windows user, in which case we'll indulge "u".....
Like the enterprise buyers who can still buy systems with XP installed.
There are more XP systems than Macs, there are more Macs than there are Macs running Leopard.
It's a numbers game and you lose.
$25 each and every year. I might consider paying it once, but not every year. I've already paid good money for Audio-CDs which I've ripped to iTunes. I'm not going to continually pay again every single year. This $25 yearly fee is for those folks that stole their music. Honest purchasers of CD's are being punished. I think I'll just avoid iTunes Match.
Sorry for whining.
Yeah. $2.08 a month is just crazy expensive.
Oh, sh*t. Not if they're $1.29 each.
$25 each and every year. I might consider paying it once, but not every year. I've already paid good money for Audio-CDs which I've ripped to iTunes. I'm not going to continually pay again every single year. This $25 yearly fee is for those folks that stole their music. Honest purchasers of CD's are being punished. I think I'll just avoid iTunes Match.
Sorry for whining.
$25 a year to have access to my entire music collection, on multiple devices, anywhere I go with a touch?
Bargain. I can't wait.
$25 a year to have access to my entire music collection, on multiple devices, anywhere I go with cellular data or Wi-Fi?
Important fix.
I'm loving iTunes Match. Pandora has taken a backseat...
Utter rubbish. It's simple accident (laziness, lack of innovation) that the Microsoft codebase has barely changed in over ten years. Not a business decision by apple. You want modern tech, get modern tech. Otherwise, stick with outdated hardware and software and deal with being left behind.
Like the enterprise buyers who can still buy systems with XP installed.
There are more XP systems than Macs, there are more Macs than there are Macs running Leopard.
It's a numbers game and you lose.
Of course it is a numbers game! Duh. And, given unquestioning people like you both, Apple has no trouble casting aside its older loyal customers, thereby exacerbating this numbers game!
Gotta love it.
(Oh, before you reply, read my original post).
It truly is insane for people who've bought their own music, either through iTunes or ripped from CDs, to pay yearly to listen to it. This is also why I simply laughed at Microsoft's Zune plans. What were they, $15 a MONTH for an all-you-can-hear buffet of music you don't actually own, and if you stop paying monthly you lost access to it?
.
Your not paying for the music, you're paying for the service of being able to listen to any of your music on any device, at any time without sacrificing the limited storage space of your mobile devices. It's not "insane" it's 'convenience'.
You're not being forced to pay for it. It's an option. If you don't pay the yearly service fee, you don't lose your music, you lose the ability to play it on any device (without syncing it ahead of time.) Completely different that the Zune subscription model.
Your not paying for the music, you're paying for the service of being able to listen to any of your music on any device, at any time without sacrificing the limited storage space of your mobile devices. It's not "insane" it's 'convenience'.
You're not being forced to pay for it. It's an option. If you don't pay the yearly service fee, you don't lose your music, you lose the ability to play it on any device (without syncing it ahead of time.) Completely different that the Zune subscription model.
You're right; thanks for pointing out the discrepancies.
Still, I find it silly to pay for something I already own, regardless of what I'm saving to do it.
You're right; thanks for pointing out the discrepancies.
Still, I find it silly to pay for something I already own, regardless of what I'm saving to do it.
I think it's crazy too... that is until a few days ago after I purchased my first iPhone, 64GB version. I want to store a large music collection, photos, etc on the phone. Now I'm thinking about how often people upgrade their phones and I might have taken the more expensive route. It's $200 more than the base 16gb model -- that's 8 years of music match! And, I'm sure I'll upgrade before then.
You're right; thanks for pointing out the discrepancies.
Still, I find it silly to pay for something I already own, regardless of what I'm saving to do it.
I own a telephone. My wife owns a telephone. We pay for the service that connects the two. Oh, and that's only when we have a cellular connection available.
You own your music. You own your iPhone. You pay for the service that connects the two.
$25 a year to have access to my entire music collection, on multiple devices, anywhere I go with a touch?
Bargain. I can't wait.
^This^
And who cares if it's only when I have a wireless data connection. I have a wireless data connection 99% of the time. And for the rest, I can keep a small selection of music on my devices at all times.
I can't wait to give Apple my $25 a year for this privilege.
When was a launch date announced for imatch?
The original launch date was announced by management publicly on October 4th 2011 at which time they said it would be launched in October 2011.
Guess their calendar was broken.
Why would management put themselves in that position unless they were sure it would happen?
$25 each and every year. I might consider paying it once, but not every year. I've already paid good money for Audio-CDs which I've ripped to iTunes. I'm not going to continually pay again every single year. This $25 yearly fee is for those folks that stole their music. Honest purchasers of CD's are being punished. I think I'll just avoid iTunes Match.
Sorry for whining.
I thought I heard that the resulting files are going to be DRM-free? So couldn't you just buy iTunes Match for the first year, and then not renew it the next year? You'd still have the DRM-free files downloaded onto your computer, wouldn't you?
Of course it is a numbers game! Duh. And, given unquestioning people like you both, Apple has no trouble casting aside its older loyal customers, thereby exacerbating this numbers game!
Gotta love it.
(Oh, before you reply, read my original post).
I read your original post.
I repeat.
If you want the latest tech, get the latest tech. Otherwise, get left behind. That's the nature of electronics.
Just because the windows codebase hasn't moved on and just happens to support features back over more versions that Mac OS is not some business decision on Apple's part. If you haven't upgraded, then you don't get new features on your mac. Standard principle for business growth - economics 101, with no reason to upgrade, people stop buying. Company dies.
The original launch date was announced by management publicly on October 4th 2011 at which time they said it would be launched in October 2011.
Guess their calendar was broken.
Why would management put themselves in that position unless they were sure it would happen?
Better to be late than to launch something that doesn't work. Isn't that what these boards constantly do in some bizarre scizophrenic cross demands. Release the software yesterday - but it has to be perfect, while at the same time criticising apple for not taking their time and doing things right.