Google Music announced, tightly integrated with Google+

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  • Reply 21 of 89
    tylerk36tylerk36 Posts: 1,037member
    Google +. I googled it and didn't find anything with exact results "google +". Why not call it Google tunes? I am thinking that iTunes is like eBay. Original and it just works. I really don't see any company like Google becoming a threat to the MP3 music guru's like Apple's iTunes.
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  • Reply 22 of 89
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    Let's keep on topic and not attempt to generalize here.
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  • Reply 23 of 89
    Better quality and cheaper than itunes. Nice.
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  • Reply 24 of 89
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,464member
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    Originally Posted by realitycheck69 View Post


    Better quality and cheaper than itunes. Nice.



    Is Google offering higher than 256Mbps music? I thought they were also at the .99 and $1.29 pricing.
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  • Reply 25 of 89
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    Originally Posted by MaroonMushroom View Post


    Okay. You think they should just be a search engine?



    They need to focus on their core business.

    This adds nothing to their core business.

    It simple an attempt to copy Apple at every turn as they have been doing since ES took over.
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  • Reply 26 of 89
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    Originally Posted by hmurchison View Post


    Is Google offering higher than 256Mbps music? I thought they were also at the .99 and $1.29 pricing.



    320 and free cloud
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  • Reply 27 of 89
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,771member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hmurchison View Post


    Is Google offering higher than 256Mbps music? I thought they were also at the .99 and $1.29 pricing.



    Yes, every track is 320kbps
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  • Reply 28 of 89
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    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post


    Is iTunes match still a beta feature? Honest question. Seems to have a lot of initial issues.



    https://discussions.apple.com/thread...art=0&tstart=0



    It is a released product...



    We have about 15,000 songs spread over 6 Macs... About 11,000 matched and the rest were uploaded. Uploading took about 8 hours total. Now, any changes are reflected in the iCloud servers -- after a few seconds.



    Now, we have immediate access to all ofthese from our iPhones and iPads and AppleTV...



    The first betas were a little buggy... But now it works well and pedictably!
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  • Reply 29 of 89
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    Let's keep on topic and not attempt to generalize here.



    Understood.
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  • Reply 30 of 89
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    1) I dislike Google's silly use of Google+ making the '+' search parameter ineffective.



    2) I'm glad Google finally was able to secure some deals with content owners after their previous attempt to circumvent the record companies.



    3) I don't see why this is being paired with Google+ except to prop up Google+ more than be a good vessel for competing with iTunes Store.



    4) I wonder if 320Kbps MP3 is really better than 256Kbps AAC.



    5) Interesting that Google will transcode all your FLAC and OGG to 320Kbps MP3. At least doesn't make it the dumb locker they tried to push before.



    6) In what way will this be more convenient than iTunes Store that will make me use Google's service?





    PS: For those complaining about iTunes Match missing Apple's self-imposed launch deadline by two weeks, note that it works differently than a standard data locker. As more users sign up for iTunes Match the more music they will have on file and therefore the less time it will take for each user's music library to be accounted for.
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  • Reply 31 of 89
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,464member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz View Post


    Understood.



    Thanks for understanding AD. I know you have more to offer.



    I'm gonna try out some tracks at 320k and see how much of a difference. Cool thing is

    that if I subscribe to iTunes Match it's going to let me upload tracks even if they are

    purchased via Amazon or Google.



    You could build a library of 320k songs at home and iTunes Match 256k songs for mobile devices.



    This could get pretty interesting.
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  • Reply 32 of 89
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,771member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Patranus View Post


    They need to focus on their core business.

    This adds nothing to their core business.

    It simple an attempt to copy Apple at every turn as they have been doing since ES took over.



    Just as iTunes binds Apple owners closer to their ecosystem, Google Music will be a draw to both Android and Google+, helping keep Android owners in the fold. With the addition of Google Music, there's not a lot of Apple services without a closely matched Android equivalent. A complete bundle of services/ecosystem is advantageous to both platforms.
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  • Reply 33 of 89
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    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post


    Yes, every track is 320kbps



    320kpbs but using MP3. Most people forget that AAC was developed by the same people in Germany who did MP3 and AAC was designed to replace MP3 because it was technically superior. It also had a DRM layer that MP3 lacked and thanks to Steve Jobs has now been abandoned. Apple was the first to widely use it making it a de facto standard.



    So 320kpbs is about the same as 256kpbs AAC...only your hard drive will know for sure.
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  • Reply 34 of 89
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,464member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post


    Just as iTunes binds Apple owners closer to their ecosystem, Google Music will be a draw to both Android and Google+, helping keep Android owners in the fold. With the addition of Google Music, there's not a lot of Apple services without a closely matched Android equivalent. A complete bundle of services/ecosystem is advantageous to both platforms.



    Bodes well for consumers as the drive will be to make Cloud services and desktop and mobile devices a cohesive platform. This should drive innovation. I wonder if we're going to see 4G LTE become more of a factor in devices even beyond Smartphones.
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  • Reply 35 of 89
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    Originally Posted by Cpsro View Post


    try disdain



    Nice.
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  • Reply 36 of 89
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,771member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sevenfeet View Post


    320kpbs but using MP3. Most people forget that AAC was developed by the same people in Germany who did MP3 and AAC was designed to replace MP3 because it was technically superior. It also had a DRM layer that MP3 lacked and thanks to Steve Jobs has now been abandoned. Apple was the first to widely use it making it a de facto standard.



    So 320kpbs is about the same as 256kpbs AAC...only your hard drive will know for sure.



    How do you qualify the "roughly equivalent"? File sizes? Audio quality for the average listener?



    http://ipod.about.com/od/introductio..._qual_test.htm
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  • Reply 37 of 89
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sevenfeet View Post


    So 320kpbs is about the same as 256kpbs AAC...only your hard drive will know for sure.



    One thing is for certain, the same file will take up more storage and more bandwidth than iTunes.
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  • Reply 38 of 89
    a_greera_greer Posts: 4,594member
    Ive been using the google music thing for a few moments now and feel the need to share my off teh cuff comparison to what Apple offers:



    Software/UI: Google wins

    Apple makes me download a clunckey client that is slow as molasys on my wuper fast wuad core PC with 6gb ram, no slouch of a box. The web interface for teh google playwe works nicely in Firefox and Chrome and loads FAST.



    Cloud and local storage: Google

    All I need to access my music is a browser, not a big fat itunes client or a IOS device.



    Format: Google wins

    What can I say? AAC is pretty wide spread but MP3 is ubiquitous...pretty much everything plays MP3s and tehy can be used for anything, like making your own ring tones and such.



    Quality: Google Wins

    320k MP3 sounds almost indistinguishable to my discerning ear from a CD.



    Social: Google wins

    Ping? really?!? Need I say more?



    price: Google wins

    $0.99 for everything (as far as I have been able to see)...none of this bullshit of some rejected 20 year old crap that wasnt good enough for am radio at .79 and .99 and the good stuff all at a buck thirty!
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  • Reply 39 of 89
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    One thing is for certain, the same file will take up more storage and more bandwidth than iTunes.



    mp3 takes up less space than aac



    320>256
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  • Reply 40 of 89
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by realitycheck69 View Post


    [320Kbps] mp3 takes up less space than [the same song at 256Kbps] aac



    320>256



    Don't be crazy!
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