A 9.7" tablet is too big to carry outside of the house, but 8.9" is OK?
Are you as delusional in real life as you appear here?
Galaxy Tab: 9.09" x 6.21" (230.9 mm x 157.8 mm)
iPad 2: 9.50" x 7.31" 241.2 mm x 185.7 mm)
Love to see the argument that 0.41" x 1.10" larger is a deal breaker. There are Samsung phones that have more of a size variance than that over the iPhone and won't fit in your pocket but are somehow not a big deal. As you move to larger devices the window for usable size clearly expands yet less than an inch on the diagonal puts the iPad into the "too big" category. I miss when trolls could actually form a decent rebuttal.
No, you can't, not in the conventional way. But you can certainly protect the look and feel of your product, based on a collection of features. It prevents consumer confusion and stops competitors from riding the leader's coattails.
According to the EU, if there is only one way of designing something you can't patent that design
The whole point of this is to teach Samesung that blantant copying is not okay, outside Ong Kong and Korea. Seriously, have you looked at the box branding, the usb/dock connector, or the icons for gods sake! I mean, does Samesung have one original thinker in their entire business? I doubt it, since it wasn't until after the iPad 2 was released that Samesung went back to the drawing board on their 10.1 in order to rip off the look and feel of the then new, iPad2.
After Samesung gets their nuts kicked up into their throat, they'll think twice about ripping off Apple again. But considering Apple is the bar by which all else is measured, that may be tough for them.
Exactly.
The entire point of this lawsuit is not to defeat Samsung or stop them from selling phones & tablets, but to humiliate and expose them to the public for their copy cat lineup.
When this is all said and done, the LAST thing Samsung will be attempting to do in the future.. is continue to copy an apple product.
According to the EU, if there is only one way of designing something you can't patent that design
Clearly there are multiple ways to design a tablet.
Also, per my example, it is the COMBINATION of a round inflatable trampoline AND the specific color scheme. Neither on its own means anything; it is the specific combination that is more than the sum of its parts. Which is what is central to a trade dress suit.
I was playing with a Galaxy Tab 8.9 at Best Buy yesterday. It is sweet.
The 10 inch pads are too big to carry outside the house, and the 7 inch ones can be hard to read without zooming.
The Galaxy Tab 8.9 seems to really hit the sweet spot.
I dont like the way any large tablet fits in my had, its hard to grip them, never really feels secure, I wish nook would resigned their belt loop, making large enough to slide your thumb in it, that way you have a positive grip on it.
Other tablets aren't simple rectangles. An organic shape that better fits the hand could work. Sony presented a slopes design. The front doesn't have to be flat: it could have a ridge along the bezel. The bezel doesn't have to be glossy. Etc.
Apple uses a minimalist design. You mistake that for the only way to make it. Minimalism isn't the only way to design things. Look at phones: most look way different than the iPhone, which is "just a rectangle".
Other tablets aren't simple rectangles. An organic shape that better fits the hand could work. Sony presented a slopes design. The front doesn't have to be flat: it could have a ridge along the bezel. The bezel doesn't have to be glossy. Etc.
Apple uses a minimalist design. You mistake that for the only way to make it. Minimalism isn't the only way to design things. Look at phones: most look way different than the iPhone, which is "just a rectangle".
Not from the front they dont. They all have a flat slab of glass with a black border and rounded corners.
This is a legal requirement in many countries to protect either patents or copyright. Doing nothing when these are infringed essentially can mean giving up all legal protection on your investment in design.
You got it, although it's trademarks. That said in most countries trade dress patents fall into the same group.
Part of that requirement is that if you don't protect now you lose the right to protect later. Apple can't risk that a judge would say that Samsung is a blatant copy when they are trying to sue some company over a point for point knock off. And since they let Samsung get away with it clearly they don't care about the design etc so they lose this new case also
According to the EU, if there is only one way of designing something you can't patent that design
And according to Apple, there clearly is NOT.
Heck even they with the iPad have had two different physical designs. Similar in some ways yes. But the iPad 1 is not an identical copy of the iPad 2. Plus you have Microsoft showing that you most definitely do not have to have little icons on a screen or even a 'bar' to make a UI. And so on
Not from the front they dont. They all have a flat slab of glass with a black border and rounded corners.
And when exactly did all of those phones start having a flat slab of glass with a black border and rounded corners.
About the same time that the iPhone was originally announced. More to the point, shortly after.
Even Android turn a huge right turn after the iPhone was announced. Before that, the prototypes etc showed a RIM style program. Then after the iPhone was announced they suddenly went all touchscreen etc.
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I was playing with a Galaxy Tab 8.9 at Best Buy yesterday. It is sweet.
The 10 inch pads are too big to carry outside the house, and the 7 inch ones can be hard to read without zooming.
The Galaxy Tab 8.9 seems to really hit the sweet spot.
A 9.7" tablet is too big to carry outside of the house, but 8.9" is OK?
Are you as delusional in real life as you appear here?
A 9.7" tablet is too big to carry outside of the house, but 8.9" is OK?
Are you as delusional in real life as you appear here?
A 9.7" tablet is too big to carry outside of the house, but 8.9" is OK?
You need to actually pick it up and use it to understand. It is magical.
Here's what works for me:
No, you can't, not in the conventional way. But you can certainly protect the look and feel of your product, based on a collection of features. It prevents consumer confusion and stops competitors from riding the leader's coattails.
According to the EU, if there is only one way of designing something you can't patent that design
The whole point of this is to teach Samesung that blantant copying is not okay, outside Ong Kong and Korea. Seriously, have you looked at the box branding, the usb/dock connector, or the icons for gods sake! I mean, does Samesung have one original thinker in their entire business? I doubt it, since it wasn't until after the iPad 2 was released that Samesung went back to the drawing board on their 10.1 in order to rip off the look and feel of the then new, iPad2.
After Samesung gets their nuts kicked up into their throat, they'll think twice about ripping off Apple again. But considering Apple is the bar by which all else is measured, that may be tough for them.
Exactly.
The entire point of this lawsuit is not to defeat Samsung or stop them from selling phones & tablets, but to humiliate and expose them to the public for their copy cat lineup.
When this is all said and done, the LAST thing Samsung will be attempting to do in the future.. is continue to copy an apple product.
According to the EU, if there is only one way of designing something you can't patent that design
Clearly there are multiple ways to design a tablet.
Also, per my example, it is the COMBINATION of a round inflatable trampoline AND the specific color scheme. Neither on its own means anything; it is the specific combination that is more than the sum of its parts. Which is what is central to a trade dress suit.
I was playing with a Galaxy Tab 8.9 at Best Buy yesterday. It is sweet.
The 10 inch pads are too big to carry outside the house, and the 7 inch ones can be hard to read without zooming.
The Galaxy Tab 8.9 seems to really hit the sweet spot.
I dont like the way any large tablet fits in my had, its hard to grip them, never really feels secure, I wish nook would resigned their belt loop, making large enough to slide your thumb in it, that way you have a positive grip on it.
Some if those are moronic. Not a rectangle? What other shape would it be?
Anything but a rectangle.
A black bezel is necessary for perceived contrast in video.
What about white iPads & iPhones?
Apple has a design patent on flatness and thinness?
Apple did not file on any single of these points. It was the combination of them all so the final product looks like an iPad.
Clearly there are multiple ways to design a tablet.
How many ways is there to design a rectangle?
How many ways is there to design a rectangle?
Other tablets aren't simple rectangles. An organic shape that better fits the hand could work. Sony presented a slopes design. The front doesn't have to be flat: it could have a ridge along the bezel. The bezel doesn't have to be glossy. Etc.
Apple uses a minimalist design. You mistake that for the only way to make it. Minimalism isn't the only way to design things. Look at phones: most look way different than the iPhone, which is "just a rectangle".
Other tablets aren't simple rectangles. An organic shape that better fits the hand could work. Sony presented a slopes design. The front doesn't have to be flat: it could have a ridge along the bezel. The bezel doesn't have to be glossy. Etc.
Apple uses a minimalist design. You mistake that for the only way to make it. Minimalism isn't the only way to design things. Look at phones: most look way different than the iPhone, which is "just a rectangle".
Not from the front they dont. They all have a flat slab of glass with a black border and rounded corners.
This is a legal requirement in many countries to protect either patents or copyright. Doing nothing when these are infringed essentially can mean giving up all legal protection on your investment in design.
You got it, although it's trademarks. That said in most countries trade dress patents fall into the same group.
Part of that requirement is that if you don't protect now you lose the right to protect later. Apple can't risk that a judge would say that Samsung is a blatant copy when they are trying to sue some company over a point for point knock off. And since they let Samsung get away with it clearly they don't care about the design etc so they lose this new case also
Yeah, I wonder what an iPad using 2003-2007 manufactoring processes would look like...
iPhones started in 2006 so one would hazard that, since the iPad is just a big iPhone, it would look basically like that.
According to the EU, if there is only one way of designing something you can't patent that design
And according to Apple, there clearly is NOT.
Heck even they with the iPad have had two different physical designs. Similar in some ways yes. But the iPad 1 is not an identical copy of the iPad 2. Plus you have Microsoft showing that you most definitely do not have to have little icons on a screen or even a 'bar' to make a UI. And so on
Not from the front they dont. They all have a flat slab of glass with a black border and rounded corners.
And when exactly did all of those phones start having a flat slab of glass with a black border and rounded corners.
About the same time that the iPhone was originally announced. More to the point, shortly after.
Even Android turn a huge right turn after the iPhone was announced. Before that, the prototypes etc showed a RIM style program. Then after the iPhone was announced they suddenly went all touchscreen etc.
but of course that's total coincidence.
But of course that's total coincidence.
or dependent on available, economically viable technology coupled with consumer demands.