Apple asks for US preliminary injunction of Samsung's Android 4.0 Galaxy Nexus

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  • Reply 361 of 448
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post


    I'll agree Siri is innovative but it wasn't Apples innovation, they bought it.



    Apple bought Siri but the Siri they implemented into the iPhone 4S is much different from what Siri was before Apple got their hands on it. You just have to use it and compare it to the other devices it was still available for to see. If there was nothing Apple innovated with their implementation of Sir then why did it take Apple a year and half to implement?
  • Reply 362 of 448
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post


    Nice try but wrong. You may like your iPhone the way Apple wants it to be but there's a very large group of iPhone owners that do not and jailbreak their phones and customize the heck out of it. You Dodge analogy doesn't hold water because only a small percentage of them customize. Comparing an iPhone to a Ferrari is asinine, its the best selling phone right? So what's the best selling car? a Toyota Corolla? Why? Because they just work. Low repair rate, and long lasting. That makes more sense.



    Got anything to back up your opinion of the 'large group' of jail breakers?



    Ironically, even if you were correct (and we're talking major theoretical here ) that would just demonstrate that most people prefer the refinement of iOS, with a little extra freedom, but still refuse to choose an Android handset.



    Interesting.



    I have more bad news for you.



    Running off your own analogy, the higher volume, cheaper version of a smartphone OS is actually...



    http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events...r_Market_Share



    Android.



    (47.3% of Total U. S. Smartphone Subscribers).



    Bummer, eh?



    Sorry.



    Enjoy your 'Toyota'...
  • Reply 363 of 448
    chris_cachris_ca Posts: 2,543member
    I wonder who has the longest quote in their response this thread?
  • Reply 364 of 448
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post


    Nice try but wrong. You may like your iPhone the way Apple wants it to be but there's a very large group of iPhone owners that do not and jailbreak their phones and customize the heck out of it. You Dodge analogy doesn't hold water because only a small percentage of them customize. Comparing an iPhone to a Ferrari is asinine, its the best selling phone right? So what's the best selling car? a Toyota Corolla? Why? Because they just work. Low repair rate, and long lasting. That makes more sense.



    Asinine... or just a joke that's past its use by date.



    You are right though. If Android is a Dodge Dart the iPhone is a Toyota Corolla (and Windows Phone is a Ford Focus and BB is a Mazda 2).



    Car fanboys will swear black and blue that their preferred manufacturer is the best, and they'll even list the reasons why.



    To normal people they are all just cars.



    If you wanted a phone analogous to a Ferrari it most certainly wouldn't be an iPhone, it would be a Vertu... stupidly impractical and overpriced to boot.
  • Reply 365 of 448
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Firefly7475 View Post


    Asinine... or just a joke that's past its use by date.



    You are right though. If Android is a Dodge Dart the iPhone is a Toyota Corolla (and Windows Phone is a Ford Focus and BB is a Mazda 2).



    Car fanboys will swear black and blue that their preferred manufacturer is the best, and they'll even list the reasons why.



    To normal people they are all just cars.



    If you wanted a phone analogous to a Ferrari it most certainly wouldn't be an iPhone, it would be a Vertu... stupidly impractical and overpriced to boot.



    Current figures as of Feb 2012 indicate that Android has 47% of the market, compared to iOS's 29%:



    http://marketingland.com/us-smartpho...s-decline-5249



    Who's got the Toyota Corolla now, Mr "I obviously can't afford a Ferrari"?
  • Reply 366 of 448
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    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post


    Did you just flush yourself down the toilet?



    Look it up.
  • Reply 367 of 448
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GTR View Post


    Current figures as of Feb 2012 indicate that Android has 47% of the market, compared to iOS's 29%:



    Are those figures actually excluding Android OS used in notebooks, tablets, PMPs, media appliances, eReaders et al.? It looks like they are taking numbers from Apple's quarterly results and pairing them to tweets and Google+ comment made my Google execs about Android activations



    So when talking about an OS why exclude all the iOS installs for the iPod Touch and iPad as they directly relate to the installed base which directly relates to the ecosystem? I don't recall any analyst ever excluding notebooks from the PC market because they didn't think those devices were valid for the ecosystem.



    From every reasonable account I've read iOS is still outpacing Android OS in new devices and iOS's install base is still significantly higher due to the head start and the multi-generational use of iOS-based devices compared to Android-based devices.
  • Reply 368 of 448
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GTR View Post


    Got anything to back up your opinion of the 'large group' of jail breakers?



    Ironically, even if you were correct (and we're talking major theoretical here ) that would just demonstrate that most people prefer the refinement of iOS, with a little extra freedom, but still refuse to choose an Android handset.



    Interesting.



    I have more bad news for you.



    Running off your own analogy, the higher volume, cheaper version of a smartphone OS is actually...



    http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events...r_Market_Share



    Android.



    (47.3% of Total U. S. Smartphone Subscribers).



    Bummer, eh?



    Sorry.



    Enjoy your 'Toyota'...



    Bad example, the iPhone 4S is the best selling phone, is it not? You're equating all the cars GM makes to one model Toyota makes. Thank god Apple products are easy to use because some of you aren't too bright.
  • Reply 369 of 448
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    Originally Posted by I am a Zither Zather Zuzz View Post


    Look it up.



    Whenever I hear whoosh I'm looking down at a turd going in circles.
  • Reply 370 of 448
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post


    Bad example, the iPhone 4S is the best selling phone, is it not? You're equating all the cars GM makes to one model Toyota makes. Thank god Apple products are easy to use because some of you aren't too bright.







    Not too bright?



    Who's getting confused between best-selling phone for a period and overall market share?
  • Reply 371 of 448
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post


    Bad example, the iPhone 4S is the best selling phone, is it not? You're equating all the cars GM makes to one model Toyota makes. Thank god Apple products are easy to use because some of you aren't too bright.



    Each year using the car analogy gets harder and harder because the best selling car would also have to be the highest quality car on the market yet cost as much as other cars. If I can buy a Rolls Royce at the price of a Honda Civic that is subsidized by paying for gas monthly i'm all in.
  • Reply 372 of 448
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post


    Whenever I hear whoosh I'm looking down at a turd going in circles.



    try closing the lid. problem solved.
  • Reply 373 of 448
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by I am a Zither Zather Zuzz View Post


    try closing the lid. problem solved.



    Who said it was a problem? Its only a problem when you think you went and there's nothing in the bowl lol
  • Reply 374 of 448
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    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post


    Each year using the car analogy gets harder and harder because the best selling car would also have to be the highest quality car on the market yet cost as much as other cars. If I can buy a Rolls Royce at the price of a Honda Civic that is subsidized by paying for gas monthly i'm all in.



    C'mon Soli, highest price and highest quality are not one and the same. Save a few hundred grand and buy a Lexus.
  • Reply 375 of 448
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    Originally Posted by GTR View Post






    Not too bright?



    Who's getting confused between best-selling phone for a period and overall market share?



    And ask all those guys with the marketshare just how well that's working out for them.
  • Reply 376 of 448
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post


    C'mon Soli, highest price and highest quality are not one and the same. Save a few hundred grand and buy a Lexus.



    The unsubsidized price of the iPhone is the highest that I know of. The carriers are apparently having to pay Apple an extra $100 per unit over other phones despite the subsidized price being even across the board for the same capacity for new phones, hence my comment. I don't think Nokia's Vertu is even relevant today. The iPhone killed that, but call that one of those pointless, one off super cars that excel in speed but completely flop in the user experience.
  • Reply 377 of 448
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    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post


    The unsubsidized price of the iPhone is the highest that I know of. The carriers are apparently having to pay Apple an extra $100 per unit over other phones despite the subsidized price being even across the board for the same capacity for new phones, hence my comment. I don't think Nokia's Vertu is even relevant today. The iPhone killed that, but call that one of those pointless, one off super cars that excel in speed but completely flop in the user experience.



    I'm sure VZW and Sprint aren't too happy about that. Cingular/ATT made that deal but there was no way they'd charge $100 more than ATT.
  • Reply 378 of 448
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    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post


    Cingular/ATT made that deal but there was no way they'd charge $100 more than ATT.



    I don't understand that sentence.
  • Reply 379 of 448
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post


    And ask all those guys with the marketshare just how well that's working out for them.



    It's kind of ironic that I have to explain this to you (especially after the not-too-bright comment you made) but Android's smartphones have 49% market share, compared to iOS's 29%.



    Therefore, by reasoning supplied by yourself, the highest volume product is equivalent to the 'Toyota Corolla' of smartphones, which is Android.



    You.

    Just posted.

    That Android.

    Is the 'Toyota Corolla'.

    Of Smartphones.



    And...



    I had to explain it to you.



    Because you didn't get your own analogy.



  • Reply 380 of 448
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GTR View Post


    It's kind of ironic that I have to explain this to you (especially after the not-too-bright comment you made) but Android's smartphones have 49% market share, compared to iOS's 29%.



    Therefore, by reasoning supplied by yourself, the highest volume product is equivalent to the 'Toyota Corolla' of smartphones, which is Android.



    You.

    Just posted.

    That Android.

    Is the 'Toyota Corolla'.

    Of Smartphones.



    And...



    I had to explain it to you.



    Because you didn't get your own analogy.







    Android is not one specific make and model. GM sells the most cars but they do not have the best selling car.
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